Ice Man Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 I've noticed a strange problem with both the Westland Sea King (RN and Argentinian),often the rotors stop working and the helicopter fly as a glider.How can I do for resolve this strange problem? Best regards, Teo Quote
Guest rscsjsuso5 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 don't know about the gliding but helicopter in third wire game act like helo planes to solve the rotors look below go to engine section and find PropDiameter=5.245 usually its under engine 2 and 3 in helocopter data section and anything under 6.0 should make it spin properly. enjoy, my values is 5.245 for engine 2 and 2.67 for engine 3 Quote
Ice Man Posted February 22, 2010 Author Posted February 22, 2010 don't know about the gliding but helicopter in third wire game act like helo planes to solve the rotors look below go to engine section and find PropDiameter=5.245 usually its under engine 2 and 3 in helocopter data section and anything under 6.0 should make it spin properly. enjoy, my values is 5.245 for engine 2 and 2.67 for engine 3 Sorry but I haven't the lines you tell me,I've this: // Engines --------------------------------------------------------- [Engine1] SystemType=JET_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=1 HasAfterburner=FALSE SLThrustDry=56290.17 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.3 IdleThrottle=0.10 IdleRPM=0.01 IdleNozzle=0.90 CruiseThrottle=0.37 CruiseRPM=0.82 CruiseNozzle=0.25 MilThrottle=1.0 MilRPM=1.00 MilNozzle=0.25 MaxThrottle=0.78 MaxRPM=1.00 MaxNozzle=0.25 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=3048.0 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.000,0.744,0.557,0.423,0.326,0.277,0.054,0.025,0.000,0.000 DryMachTableNumData=4 DryMachTableDeltaX=0.4 DryMachTableStartX=0.0 DryMachTableData=1.000,0.980,1.000,0.000 TSFCM0=0.6 TSFCM1=1.0 ThrustVectoring=TRUE ;ThrustVectorInputName=THRUST_VECTOR_CONTROL ThrustVectorControlRate=2.0 ThrustVectorAnimationID= MaxVectoredPitchAngle=100.0 MinFuelFlow=0.01 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=-1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 AfterburnerEmitterName= AfterburnerEffectSize= FireSuppression=FALSE [Engine2] SystemType=JET_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=2 HasAfterburner=FALSE SLThrustDry=56290.17 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.3 IdleThrottle=0.10 IdleRPM=0.01 IdleNozzle=0.90 CruiseThrottle=0.37 CruiseRPM=0.82 CruiseNozzle=0.25 MilThrottle=1.0 MilRPM=1.00 MilNozzle=0.25 MaxThrottle=0.78 MaxRPM=1.00 MaxNozzle=0.25 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=3048.0 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.000,0.744,0.557,0.423,0.326,0.277,0.054,0.025,0.000,0.000 DryMachTableNumData=4 DryMachTableDeltaX=0.4 DryMachTableStartX=0.0 DryMachTableData=1.000,0.980,1.000,0.000 TSFCM0=0.6 TSFCM1=1.0 ThrustVectoring=TRUE ThrustVectorControlRate=2.0 ThrustVectorAnimationID= MaxVectoredPitchAngle=100.0 MinFuelFlow=0.01 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 AfterburnerEmitterName= AfterburnerEffectSize= FireSuppression=FALSE [Engine3] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=3 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=RotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=RotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowRotor FastPropNodeName=FastRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=-1.3053,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=5 PropDiameter=17.3 MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 ; *********** [Engine4] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=4 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=TRotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=TailRotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowTRotor FastPropNodeName=FastTRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=3 PropDiameter=3.9 MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 ; *********** Quote
Guest rscsjsuso5 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Sorry but I haven't the lines you tell me,I've this: // Engines --------------------------------------------------------- [Engine1] SystemType=JET_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=1 HasAfterburner=FALSE SLThrustDry=56290.17 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.3 IdleThrottle=0.10 IdleRPM=0.01 IdleNozzle=0.90 CruiseThrottle=0.37 CruiseRPM=0.82 CruiseNozzle=0.25 MilThrottle=1.0 MilRPM=1.00 MilNozzle=0.25 MaxThrottle=0.78 MaxRPM=1.00 MaxNozzle=0.25 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=3048.0 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.000,0.744,0.557,0.423,0.326,0.277,0.054,0.025,0.000,0.000 DryMachTableNumData=4 DryMachTableDeltaX=0.4 DryMachTableStartX=0.0 DryMachTableData=1.000,0.980,1.000,0.000 TSFCM0=0.6 TSFCM1=1.0 ThrustVectoring=TRUE ;ThrustVectorInputName=THRUST_VECTOR_CONTROL ThrustVectorControlRate=2.0 ThrustVectorAnimationID= MaxVectoredPitchAngle=100.0 MinFuelFlow=0.01 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=-1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 AfterburnerEmitterName= AfterburnerEffectSize= FireSuppression=FALSE [Engine2] SystemType=JET_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=2 HasAfterburner=FALSE SLThrustDry=56290.17 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.3 IdleThrottle=0.10 IdleRPM=0.01 IdleNozzle=0.90 CruiseThrottle=0.37 CruiseRPM=0.82 CruiseNozzle=0.25 MilThrottle=1.0 MilRPM=1.00 MilNozzle=0.25 MaxThrottle=0.78 MaxRPM=1.00 MaxNozzle=0.25 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=3048.0 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.000,0.744,0.557,0.423,0.326,0.277,0.054,0.025,0.000,0.000 DryMachTableNumData=4 DryMachTableDeltaX=0.4 DryMachTableStartX=0.0 DryMachTableData=1.000,0.980,1.000,0.000 TSFCM0=0.6 TSFCM1=1.0 ThrustVectoring=TRUE ThrustVectorControlRate=2.0 ThrustVectorAnimationID= MaxVectoredPitchAngle=100.0 MinFuelFlow=0.01 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 AfterburnerEmitterName= AfterburnerEffectSize= FireSuppression=FALSE [Engine3] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=3 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=RotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=RotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowRotor FastPropNodeName=FastRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=-1.3053,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=5 PropDiameter=17.3 MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 ; *********** [Engine4] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=4 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=TRotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=TailRotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowTRotor FastPropNodeName=FastTRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=3 PropDiameter=3.9 MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 ; *********** --- look here [Engine3] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=3 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=RotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=RotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowRotor FastPropNodeName=FastRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=-1.3053,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=5 PropDiameter=17.3 - change to 5.245 (remember for helicopter after 08 patch anything under "6.0" would be fine) MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 ; *********** [Engine4] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=4 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=TRotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=TailRotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowTRotor FastPropNodeName=FastTRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=3 PropDiameter=3.9 --- change to 2.67 (remember for helicopter after 08 patch anything under "6.0" would be fine) MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 enjoy Quote
Ice Man Posted February 22, 2010 Author Posted February 22, 2010 --- look here [Engine3] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=3 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=RotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=RotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowRotor FastPropNodeName=FastRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=-1.3053,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=5 PropDiameter=17.3 - change to 5.245 (remember for helicopter after 08 patch anything under "6.0" would be fine) MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 ; *********** [Engine4] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=4 SLPowerDry=158834.1 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrottleRate=0.5 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=7000 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TSFCM0=0.90 TSFCM1=1.26 SpinnerNodeName=TRotorShaft StaticPropNodeName=TailRotorBlades SlowPropNodeName=SlowTRotor FastPropNodeName=FastTRotor SlowPropRPM=500 FastPropRPM=1000 MaxPropRPM=1200 IdlePropRPM=300 BSFC=0.00298 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustPosition=1.3050,-2.4138,1.8914 FireSuppression=FALSE ; new entries AnimationID= MaxPowerAnimationTime=-1 MinPowerAnimationTime=-1 PropRotationDirection= ReversePropOrientation=FALSE ConstantSpeedProp= FALSE NumBlades=3 PropDiameter=3.9 --- change to 2.67 (remember for helicopter after 08 patch anything under "6.0" would be fine) MomentOfInertia=2.25 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableNumData=7 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableDeltaX=0.2 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableStartX=0.0 PropEfficiencyAdvanceRatioTableData=0.041,0.40,0.70,0.82,0.78,0.50,0.00 enjoy I've done the changes you tell me, but without results.I've installed Falklands 1982 mod on WOV with the patch 8.30.06 Quote
Guest rscsjsuso5 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 here is what i recomend install wov, patch latest get it at thirdwire (i believe your current patch not latest), and weapon pack whatever you wish make sure properly install and then the falklands mod and then fixing up the aircrafts/helicopters Quote
+Gocad Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 I've noticed a strange problem with both the Westland Sea King (RN and Argentinian),often the rotors stop working and the helicopter fly as a glider.How can I do for resolve this strange problem? Best regards, Teo Sounds to me that the Sea Kings have run out of fuel. [EngineX] SystemType=PROP_ENGINE .... BSFC= .... That's the value for the fuel consumption. Lower the value (i.e. something like 0.00001) and see whether the rotors keep stopping. Quote
+Wrench Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 it's the standard "rotor diameter" problem that was created by the 08 patchs for 1st GEns. Look for the "PropDiamter" line in the Engine sections -as pointed out above-, reduce said diameter to less than 6 meters (5.5 would be fine), and issue is solved Remember, too, this mod was built with the 06 patch level in mind, running in the 08 level 1st GEns or in ANY SF2 install, you WILL run into all sorts of interestering problems wrench kevin stein Quote
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