Ruggbutt 45 Posted October 17, 2010 ObuttoIt's pronounced "Oh, but Oh!". So you want to know what an Obutto is. It's Flight Sim goodness. It's your very own cockpit from which you can strike the enemy where ever they may sortie from. It's an F-15 pit. It's a Spitfire pit. It's a P-38 Lighting pit. It's all of these, depending on how you wish to place your flight controllers. Even if you fly with a yoke and a throttle quadrant. Or if you fly with a HOTAS. Center stick or side stick position, it doesn't matter, Obutto can be configured the way you want to fly.ConstructionThe Obutto is constructed of heavy gauge tubular steel. It's coated in a beautiful matte black finish that's tough as nails. The seat is a racing style bucket seat that is adjustable fore and aft as well as being able to recline. The seat is two tone black and gray and has fantastic lumbar support. It's extremely comfortable and the cloth that covers it is thick and durable. It also has Obutto's logo on the front headrest part of the seat as well as a large "Obutto" embroidered across the back headrest part of the seat. The heavy wear areas of the seat are reinforced by a vinyl that has a carbon fiber type pattern to it.AssemblyYou'll need some tools for assembly. Three to be exact. You'll need a 6mm allen wrench, and a 1/2 and 9/16 wrench (or crescent wrench). You'll also want to pick up some 4mm M4x 10mm screws. You'll need 4 of them. More on that later.......I happened to have all those tools on hand (I'm a contractor). I like that cheapie tools aren't included with the Obutto. I've hurt myself plenty of times using wrenches stamped out of metal stock or busted knuckles when soft steel allen wrenches give way. Do yourself a favor, head over to Home Depot and pick up the tools you'll need. It will make assembly easier and you'll not have to head to Walgreens for Band-Aids and Neosporin.The first thing you'll notice is that the parts are wrapped in bubble wrap. They're wrapped extremely well. There wasn't one scratch on the finish of my pit. In fact, the hardest thing about putting the pit together was unwrapping it. Seriously, it's that easy to put together! The instructions were written by someone who speaks English as a first language. They were clear and concise (and a bit humorous). Even if you aren't mechanically inclined you will be able to assemble the pit. It's a no brainer.The Obutto comes in several main parts. The base for the monitor stand and the base for the seat. The seat itself comes mounted on sliding rails so you'll only have to bolt the seat onto the seat base, it takes 4 bolts to do so. The monitor stand base and seat bolt together as well. What you'll find with the Obutto is that there are many adjustments you can make when attaching the arms for the peripherals. Along each side of the seat base there are 7 holes that run the length of the base. These are the mounting holes for the arms that you'll use for your keyboard arm, throttle and stick arm. If you choose not to go side stick you can mount the arm where the monitor base and seat base bolt together. If you use a yoke you can mount it on the steering wheel mount. It's adjustable fore and aft for the perfect fit. The pedal base can be adjusted up or down as well as fore and aft. It's covered with a rubber non slip coating that really works well. My CH Pro Pedals didn't slide once on it. Neither did my girlfriends G27 racing pedals. I'm using a single 26" monitor and bolting it to the monitor mount was simple. This is where you'll need the 4mm VESA mounting screws. The mount itself is drilled for all the variations of VESA bolt patterns. You can adjust the monitor higher or lower on it's mounting uprights as well. As I said before, everything with the Obutto is adjustable. There is an option for a 3 monitor stand if you prefer.TestingI tested the pit for flight sims as well as for racing. I don't do a lot of racing but my girlfriend does. When I ordered the Obutto I asked Chris Dunagan (the man behind Obutto) to send me all the parts needed to do a sidestick sim pit as well as a racing pit. I put the flight sim pit together first. That sounds like more than it really is as you can easily remove and swap parts around with the Obutto. I can convert from F/S to racing in about 5 minutes, and most of that time is swapping out controllers. The first thing I noticed is how comfortable the seat was. It's easy to adjust, like the seat in your car. The adjustment lever is front center under the seat. The reclining feature of the seat allows you to sit more or less upright, depending upon how you like to fly/drive. That lever is where the back meets the seat. I fly sidestick, so I adjusted the up/down arms for my Ch Pro Throttle and Fighterstick. Adjustment is done with star shaped handles connected to bolts that pin the arms in place. It took all of a minute to set the pit up for my use. I recommend using industrial strength velcro for mounting your stick and throttle. Chris (from Obutto) recommended it and it works like a champ!I flew Flaming Cliffs 2 for hours in the Obutto. I enjoyed the pit immensely. The monitor is plenty close enough so that you can spot bandits at distance. The fact that I could fine tune where my controllers were gave me greater accuracy when flying. The pit is nice and stable, sturdy. Side to side movement in the Obutto results in very little movement of the monitor. My Obutto is set up on carpet with heavy pad so I expected a little "give". I'd be willing to wager that if set up on a floor that didn't move you wouldn't see any monitor movement.Next I set the pit up for racing. My girlfriend has a Logitech G27 setup and races Dirt 2. It took 5 minutes to swap controllers and she had the Obutto adjusted in no time for her driving marathon. When asked what she liked about the Obutto she said that it was very comfortable. She liked how she could sit in it for hours and her legs wouldn't fall asleep. She also like how she could adjust the seat and her controllers to replicate what it felt like in her car (a 25th Anniversary Z-28). The distance between the screen and her eyes was perfect, she didn't need her reading glasses to read fine print. Needless to say she loved the Obutto.She loved it so much that it's no longer mine........................Her argument is that I already have a pit built (those of you who know me have seen pics) and that she needed something. I didn't have an argument except that I liked the Obutto and that didn't fly, cuz she liked it too so one cancels out the other. It's now her new "desk". She sits in it surfing the web and her computer desk here in the office is bare. I even went into the other room where her Obutto is and found her in the seat reclined, sleeping while listening to music.Options real reclining car sports seat real car seat sliders for easy adjustment removable swiveling & telescoping keyboard/mouse tray very stable thick walled carbon steel frame (3.2cm diameter pipe) angled height adjustable steering wheel mount with over 12" of travel removable VESA monitor stand for hard mounting your LCD monitor (uses standard VESA bolt patterns 75x75mm, 100x100mm, 200x100mm) height & distance adjustable rubber covered pedal tray, also fully removable seperate H-pattern shifter mount (mounts on either side & distance adjustable) Accessories Include: Triple monitor mount Black acrylic tabletop Flight stick/Throttle mount PlusesHeavy duty constructionEasy assemblyInfinitely adjustableCan be configured for other duties in a few minutesPrice is reasonable, especially compared to competitors' offeringsNegativesNeeds a cup holder. (my girlfriend says that's the only thing missing)Final ThoughtsI've been fortunate that I've been to many trade shows and have stick time in many of the offerings out there that are similar to what Obutto offers. I wasn't a fan of the ones I had tried as they were too flimsy or weren't ergonomic enough to suit my tastes. When I contacted Chris Dunagan about reviewing the Obutto I had a negative opinion about gamer cockpits. I'm pleasantly surprised to say that they aren't all created equal. My biggest gripe was flimsy construction. I didn't want to worry about ruining a $600 monitor by shaking it to death. Some of the other options were hard to get in and out of. Some didn't have enough mounting places for all my gear.The Obutto is a great piece of kit at an extremely fair price. I like it so much that I'm seriously considering ordering another one and replacing the pit I built from scratch. It has less of a footprint than my exisiting pit and it's as easy to get in and out of. It looks Sierra Hotel! The matte black finish looks like pure business. You can marathon fly/drive for hours. I found the time went by quickly, often I had to be called for dinner because I was having too much fun.Chris Dunagan, creator of the Obutto is a gamer. You can see him using the Obutto on You Tube. He's the guy in the pics on the Obutto website. And judging by the design of the gamer pit Chris is a bit of an engineer. I'm of the opinion that it's a gamer that knows what gamers want. Mission accomplished! One last thing I'd like to touch on is how receptive Chris was to my questions and comments. He took time out to answer a half a dozen emails from me. In my experience that shows that the man stands behind his product and he loves what he does. I'd like to thank Chris for all the help he provided me regarding this review. You're aces Chris.Head over to the Obutto website and check out what Chris has to offer. Price is $329USD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr.Viper 131 Posted October 17, 2010 Gaaah! It's exactly the kind of thing I need. Having the price of the kit provided in the review would've been more convenient. Had to visit the website, liked the price (a pair of TIR kits), but the nearest dealer is a bit too far from my place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruggbutt 45 Posted October 17, 2010 I added the price into the story. I'm going to do some figuring and it's prolly gonna replace the pit I already have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted October 17, 2010 I wonder how fast the wife will say no..... Great review Rugg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cali 6 Posted October 19, 2010 I want one, I'd have to get a smaller desk for the office to make room for this. Maybe tax returns will be nice to me :yes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruggbutt 45 Posted October 21, 2010 I admit it, I have cable management issues. I couldn't stand all the loose cables in the Obutto, it made the sleek design look less sexy. So I bought some 1" split loom (got it at Fry's Electronics) and I placed all the cables in it and zip tied it to the frame of the Obutto. It looks awesome too. Split loom is used in the car manufacturing industry as well as in race cars, so it was actually meant to do what I'm using it for. I got the 1" diameter cuz I have a DVI cable, power cable for monitor, speaker cable for monitor, TrackIR cable, cables for the wheel/shifter/throttle/power supply and mouse cable hidden within the split loom. Here's a couple close ups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted October 21, 2010 Awesome review Rugg! FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted November 1, 2010 Holy s**t, it sure does!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruggbutt 45 Posted November 1, 2010 ROFL. Only Ken would do something like that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruggbutt 45 Posted November 20, 2010 Since I've written the story some things have changed. I have my Obutto back. I've spent the better part of a week (nights only) putting my "new" pit together. I have a lot of gear, and I decided (for the time being) to implement only what I'm using right now. So that means the touchscreens have gone. Maybe not forever but for now I don't miss them. Here's a shot of the new pit and I'll explain how I've modified it with common items that you can get from any hardware store. I happen to be competent with tools and have metal working experience but what I've done here most anyone can do with a few tools and some patience. And a night shot, I fly in the dark: The first thing I wanted to do was to incorporate my 46" Samsung. I purchased a wall TV mount for the Sammy as I figured that was the best way to mount the unit. It turns out that the TV was a little farther away than I wanted it to be so I went to plan B. I decided to use the wall mount and attach it to the existing TV mount that came with the Obutto. It turned out that using the existing mount made the TV too close, so I came up with another solution. I turned the TV mount around backwards. It was useless as a TV mount at this point but it's a fantastic mount for my powered USB hub and the interface for my lighting system. A bit of velcro stuck those nicely out of the way but easily accessable. I decided to drill directly into the uprights for the monitor mount that Obutto provided. I recommend buying a nice hardened bit for steel. I killed a couple of light duty bits. I then decided that I wanted to mount my trackball underneath my CH Pro Throttle. In my old pit it was directly to the left but when I placed it underneath the stick I found it was a bit easier to reach. I picked up a couple of stiffener plates (used for housing trusses), the correct size drill bits and some metal self tapping screws. After fitting the parts I primed and painted them and set them aside to dry. I fitted another plate directly behind the one the trackball was to be mounted on. This would hold one of my X-Keys Pro units. I did all the drilling and fitting, painted and primed that as well. I installed the parts the next day and with several strips of industrial grade velcro (sourced from Home Depot, it's in aisle with the screws). I also purchased and L shaped bracket (used for mounting posts to concrete) primed, painted and attached to the keyboard tray. This holds my CH Throttle Quadrant. As a note, I didn't purchase the Lexan table top from Obutto so I had to figure out a compromise. The keyboard tray that comes with it mounts on a swing arm and you mount it right or left handed. Since both the throttle and the CH Fighterstick would be in the way of the swing action of the keyboard tray, it was essentially an "extra" part. I turned it around backwards and screwed it into the mount that holds the racing wheel (or flight yoke) and now I had an adjustable keyboard tray that is rock solid. I'd like to mention that when getting in and out of the pit I use the edge of the tray to push on as I exit and it's rock solid. A tribute to Obutto as I only modified what sat on top of it. Here's a shot of the left side of my pit. In the picture above you'll notice a round black and silver unit mounted low on the frame of the Obutto. It's my Buttkicker, you can read my review here in case you missed it. I've stated before I have cable management issues. I purchased a whole bunch of different sizes of split loom (1/4"/1/2"/3/4"/1") and covered the usb cables from my controllers. The split loom also hides the wires from the lighting. It makes for a clean and industrial looking installation that suits itself well to the no-nonsense look of the Obutto. You'll notice that black zip ties play a prominent role as well. Right side pit: Overhead shot so you can see placement of all my controllers. Everything is in there nice and cozy, just like in a real cockpit. Logitech Z-680 sub and 300 watt Buttkicker power amp. The lighting for my pit consists of puck type LED lights that are sold at stores like Home Depot for under the cabinet lighting. I bought the more expensive LEDs as they use much less power than a halogen or incandescent light. The fact that LEDs run cool is the main reason I chose them though. Can't have hot lights melting my controllers or burning my skin. I hope ya'll like my new pit. It's amazing to fly with. Everything is in the perfect place and the Obutto chair is just plain comfortable. As you've seen in this thread the Obutto can be configured for each individual's tastes and needs. I can't stress how impressed I am with this unit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted November 20, 2010 Holy s**t Rug! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 531_Ghost Posted November 20, 2010 Nice goin' there Rugg! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jolili 0 Posted December 30, 2010 this ismy "post" I would like fly with il2 1946 but softth and x-sim. Think you for infos !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cali 6 Posted January 1, 2011 Nice pit, got a video of you flying? Lock on/DCS BS or A-10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamaxis 0 Posted January 8, 2011 HOLLY S***** THIS STUFF IT F**** AMAZING !! FOR EVERY SIM ADDICT !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monovirus 0 Posted April 9, 2011 this ismy "post" I would like fly with il2 1946 but softth and x-sim. Think you for infos !! Nice one! Can i ask for the items used ans schematic? to create this amazing stuff? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Skibo 0 Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Made a few changes to my Obutto. Added a mount for triple 40" screens at 45 degrees (actually its fully adjustable for any angle from zero to 90) Edited February 15, 2012 by J. Skibo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruggbutt 45 Posted February 17, 2012 Nice!! I'm jealous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wArthog10 0 Posted July 19, 2012 Whoa, nice triple monitors! ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites