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SU-27 loadout help

By Tenom1, in Thirdwire: Strike Fighters 1 Series - Mods/Skinning Discussion

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Tenom1    0

Tenom1
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I'm using marcfighters SU-27. Anyway despite confirming that the weapons are activated and double checking my loadout.ini against a Mig-29c Russian loadout.ini that I know works, the loadout for the SU-27 never shows up correctly. Whenever I start a single mission regardless of type all I get is 4 aphids and only have access to atolls and adders, no archers or alamos.

 

This is my loadout.ini for the Su-27:

 

 

// Station 01 = Left Outer Wing - IRM

// Station 02 = Right Outer Wing - IRM

// Station 03 = Left Wing - IRM

// Station 04 = Right Wing - IRM

// Station 05 = Left Inner Wing - IRM,AHM,SAHM

// Station 06 = Right Inner Wing - IRM,AHM,SAHM

// Station 07 = Centerline Front Station - IRM,AHM,SAHM

// Station 08 = Centerline Rear Station - IRM,AHM,SAHM

// Station 09 = Left engine Station - IRM,AHM,SAHM

// Station 10 = Right engine Station - IRM,AHM,SAHM

 

 

[AirToAir]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

 

[AirToAirLongRange]

Loadout[01].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[01].Quantity=1

Loadout[02].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[02].Quantity=1

Loadout[03].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[03].Quantity=1

Loadout[04].WeaponType=AA-11B

Loadout[04].Quantity=1

Loadout[05].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[05].Quantity=1

Loadout[06].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[06].Quantity=1

Loadout[07].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[07].Quantity=1

Loadout[08].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[08].Quantity=1

Loadout[09].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[09].Quantity=1

Loadout[10].WeaponType=AA-10A

Loadout[10].Quantity=1

 

And the weapon station details:

 

 

// Weapon Stations ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[LeftOuterStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= -7.064,-3.40,0.23

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[RightOuterStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= 7.064,-3.40,0.23

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[LeftStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= -6.023,-3.80,0.11

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Leftstation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[RightStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=6.023,-3.80,0.11

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Rightstation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[LeftInnerStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= -4.498,-2.65,-0.00

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,IRM,SAHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=LeftInnerStation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[RightInnerStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= 4.498,-2.65,-0.0

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,IRM,SAHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=RightinnerStation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

// Centerline ----------------------

 

[station1]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,-0.67,-0.209

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=700

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station1

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[station2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=8

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,-5.45,-0.240

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=700

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station2

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[station3]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=9

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.195,-1.8,-1.05

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-5.0

LoadLimit=520

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station3

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[station4]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=10

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.195,-1.8,-1.05

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-5.0

LoadLimit=520

AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station4

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

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Fubar512    1,350

Fubar512
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First off, irregardless what it says in the model's loading screen and drop down menu, it's properly referred to as an "Su-27", not an "SU-27"....just thought you'd like to know :grin:

 

Naming conventions and in-service dates would be the first two items I'd check.

 

In regards to naming conventions, keep in mind that AA-8x = R-60x, AA-10x = R-27x, AA-11x = R-73x, etc. See what they're named in your weapons folders.

 

In regards to service dates, There were no Archers (AA-11) commonly available before 1989, and no Adders until after 1990-1993. AA-8 Aphids were available since the mid-1970s, with the all-aspect Aphid-B being used on both MiG-29s and Su-27s from 1984 onwards (the intro date for both airframes).

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Slartibartfast    153

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If it's before the weapons operations date you will get older missiles doesn't matter on what the Loadout states... I have even seen a setup with AA-2's!!! on a Mig-29A Soviet... even though loadout should have been AA-8's x 4 and 2 AA-10 Alamo's

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Tenom1    0

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Looked at the service dates and i'm testing in 1992. AA-11s showing up with Mig-29 but not for the Su-27 grin.gif. I'll compare the data.ini's for the two tomorrow. The Marcfighter Su-27 is from 2007 so there's probably some things that need updating i'm guessing.

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Tenom1    0

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Arghhh not showing up for lindr2's Su-35 (Su-27M) either. My install doesn't like Sukhois angry2.gif

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Tenom1    0

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"Did you install weapons pack 2.52 Tenom?"

 

"Yes...wait...no."

 

"Good job."

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+Heberth    159

Heberth
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buddy try this:

 

 

 

// Weapon Stations ---------------------------------------------------------

 

[LeftOuterStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=1

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= -7.064,-3.40,0.23

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[RightOuterStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=2

StationGroupID=1

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= 7.064,-3.40,0.23

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[LeftStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=3

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= -6.023,-3.80,0.11

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Leftstation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[RightStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=4

StationGroupID=2

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=6.023,-3.80,0.11

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=200

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Rightstation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

 

[LeftInnerStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=5

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= -4.498,-2.65,-0.00

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,IRM,SAHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=LeftInnerStation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

SpecificStationCode=AA10

 

[RightInnerStation]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=6

StationGroupID=3

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition= 4.498,-2.65,-0.0

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=500

AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,IRM,SAHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=RightinnerStation

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

SpecificStationCode=AA10

 

// Centerline ----------------------

 

[station1]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=7

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,-0.67,-0.209

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=1550

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station1

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

SpecificStationCode=AA10

 

[station2]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=8

StationGroupID=4

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=0.0,-5.45,-0.240

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-1.0

LoadLimit=1550

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station2

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

SpecificStationCode=AA10

 

[station3]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=9

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-1.195,-1.8,-1.05

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-5.0

LoadLimit=1550

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station3

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

SpecificStationCode=AA10

 

[station4]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=10

StationGroupID=5

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=1.195,-1.8,-1.05

AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0

EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-5.0

LoadLimit=1550

AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,SAHM,AHM

AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET

ModelNodeName=Station4

PylonMass=86.18

PylonDragArea=0.02

SpecificStationCode=AA10

 

I hope I have helped

good luck and good hunt!

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