SFP1Ace Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 This site seems to have good info on Soviet AF in GDR in the '80s: http://www.16va.be/sitemap.html It mostly in french but some bits are in english too. Can be useful for creating/tweaking '80s scenario for SF2:E (unless NF4+ team's already been using it for ages, lol). Quote
Erwin_Hans Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 (edited) //---- WP Air Units //------------16th Air Group Army-------------------- //------------6th Gv.IAD------------------- [AirUnit072] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=31 Gv.IAP 'Nilopolskyi' VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=14 BaseArea=Alt-L鰊newitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=80 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit073] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=85 Gv.IAP 'Sebastopolskyi' VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=14 BaseArea=Merseburg Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=80 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit074] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=968 IAP "Sevastopolskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------126th Gv.IAD------------------- [AirUnit075] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=35 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Zerbst Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit076] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=73 Gv.IAP "Stalingradsko-Venskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Zerbst Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit077] AircraftType=MIG-23MLD UnitName=833 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=23ml_cccp_green10 BaseArea=Altes Lager Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=20 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=20 MissionChance=10 MissionChance[CAS]=10 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------105 Gv.ADIB------------------- 296 559 911 [AirUnit078] AircraftType=MIG-27D UnitName=296 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit079] AircraftType=MIG-27K UnitName=559 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Finsterwalde Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit080] AircraftType=MIG-27K UnitName=911 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brand Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER -----------------------16 Gv.IAP---------------------------------- [AirUnit081] AircraftType=MIG-29A UnitName=33 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=120 BaseArea=Wittstock Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit082] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=733 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=P黷nitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit083] AircraftType=MIG-29C UnitName=787 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Finow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER -----------------------16 Gv.IAP----------------------------- ----------------------125 Gv.ADIB---------------------------- [AirUnit084] AircraftType=MIG-27D UnitName=19 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Rechlin Larz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit085] AircraftType=Su-17M4 UnitName=20 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Gross D鰈ln Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit086] AircraftType=Su-17M4 UnitName=730 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Neuruppin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit087] AircraftType=Su-25 UnitName=357 OShAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brandis Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit088] AircraftType=Su-25 UnitName=368 OShAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Laage Airbase ;BaseArea=Demmin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit089] AircraftType=Su-24MR UnitName=11 ORAP“Vitebskiy” VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit090] AircraftType=Su-17M3 UnitName=294 ORAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=100 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit091] AircraftType=MiG-25BM UnitName=931 Gv.ORAP "Prajskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=60 StartAircraft=46 MaxPilots=18 StartPilots=18 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER ADD this to your 1989 scenario Or check this: For SF1 WOECAMP5_DATA.rar Edited December 25, 2010 by Erwin_Hans Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 Nice! Thanks! I'll try to work out some 1986-87 and pre '86 ORBATS as well :)! Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 Ok here's the Order of Battle for the 16th VA as of January 1991 (according to the aforementioned website): //---- WP Air Units //------------16th Air Group Army-------------------- //------------6th Gv.IAD------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=31 Gv.IAP 'Nilopolskyi' VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=14 BaseArea=Alt-Lönnewitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=80 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=85 Gv.IAP 'Sebastopolskyi' VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=14 BaseArea=Merseburg Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=80 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=968 IAP "Sevastopolskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------126th Gv.IAD------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29A // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A & B plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=35 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Zerbst Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=73 Gv.IAP "Stalingradsko-Venskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Köthen Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-23MLD // 26 MiG-23MLDs plus 6 MiG-23UBs UnitName=833 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=23ml_cccp_green10 BaseArea=Altes Lager Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=26 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=26 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=20 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=20 MissionChance=10 MissionChance[CAS]=10 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------105 Gv.ADIB------------------- 296 559 911 [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27D // plus 8 MiG-23UB UnitName=296 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=27 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=27 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27K // plus 8 MiG-23UB UnitName=559 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Finsterwalde Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=28 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=28 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27K // plus 8 MiG-23 UB UnitName=911 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brand Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=27 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=27 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER -----------------------16 Gv.IAP---------------------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=33 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=120 BaseArea=Wittstock Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=773 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Pütnitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-29C // actually a mixture of MiG 29 B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=787 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=115 BaseArea=Finow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER -----------------------16 Gv.IAP----------------------------- ----------------------125 Gv.ADIB---------------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27D // plus 8 MiG-23UB UnitName=19 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Rechlin Larz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=30 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=30 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M4 // actually a mixture of Su-17M3/M4/UM3 UnitName=20 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Gross Dölln Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=35 StartAircraft=35 MaxPilots=35 StartPilots=35 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M4 // a mixture of Su-17M4/UM3 UnitName=730 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Neuruppin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=35 StartAircraft=35 MaxPilots=35 StartPilots=35 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-25 // includes 2 Su-25UB (plus 6 Aero L-39C) UnitName=357 OShAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brandis Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-25 // includes 12 Su-25UB (plus 6 Aero L-39C) UnitName=368 OShAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Laage Airbase ;BaseArea=Demmin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-24MR // plus 8 Su-24MP UnitName=11 ORAP“Vitebskiy” VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=24 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=24 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M3 // plus 5 Su-17UM3 UnitName=294 ORAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=30 StartAircraft=25 MaxPilots=30 StartPilots=25 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=100 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-25BM // actually a mixture of MiG-25BM/RBT/RBV/RBS/RBF UnitName=931 Gv.ORAP "Prajskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Werneuchen Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=21 StartAircraft=21 MaxPilots=21 StartPilots=21 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 (edited) OK, here's my take on a 1983 ORBAT for the 16th VA: /---- WP Air Units //------------16th Air Group Army-------------------- //------------6th Gv.IAD------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-23M UnitName=31 Gv.IAP 'Nilopolskyi' VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Alt-Lönnewitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=80 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-23M UnitName=85 Gv.IAP 'Sebastopolskyi' VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Merseburg Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=80 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-23M UnitName=968 IAP "Sevastopolskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------126th Gv.IAD------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-23M UnitName=35 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Zerbst Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-23MLD UnitName=73 Gv.IAP "Stalingradsko-Venskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Köthen Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-21bis // 26 MiG-23MLDs plus 6 MiG-23UBs from 1984? UnitName=833 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Altes Lager Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=26 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=26 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=20 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=20 MissionChance=10 MissionChance[CAS]=10 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER //------------105 Gv.ADIB------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27 // plus 8 MiG-23UB ; operated 2 sqrs of MiG-27 & 1 sqr of MiG-27M in '83 UnitName=296 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Altenburg-Nobitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=27 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=27 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 Upgrade[01].Date=XX/XX/1983 Upgrade[01].Type=MiG-27M [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27 // plus 8 MiG-23UB ; in '83 operated 1 sqr of MiG-27K & 2 sqrs of MiG-27 UnitName=559 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Finsterwalde Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=28 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=28 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 Upgrade[01].Date=XX/XX/1983 Upgrade[01].Type=MiG-27K [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27K // plus 8 MiG-23 UB ; moved to moved to EGermany from Lida in 1989 UnitName=911 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET StartDate=XX/XX/1983 DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Brand Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=27 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=27 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER -----------------------16 Gv.IAP---------------------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-23MLA // actually a mixture of MiG 29 A, B & C plus some MiG-23UBs UnitName=33 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Wittstock Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-21bis UnitName=773 IAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Pütnitz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=32 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=32 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-25PD // 2 of its 3 squadrons operated mig-25pd 1981-1989 to intercept sr-71, 3rd squadron had UnitName=787 IAP VVS // migs-23ml/mla ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=Soviet1 BaseArea=Finow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=24 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=24 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=20 MissionChance[CAP]=30 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=30 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=FIXED Upgrade[01].Date=XX/XX/1983 Upgrade[01].Type=MiG-31 -----------------------16 Gv.IAP----------------------------- ----------------------125 Gv.ADIB---------------------------- [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MIG-27 // plus 8 MiG-23UB ; 1 sqr of MiG-27K & 2 sqrs of MiG-27 in '83 UnitName=19 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Rechlin Larz Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=30 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=30 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 Upgrade[01].Date=XX/XX/1983 Upgrade[01].Type=MiG-27K [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M3 // Su-17M3 from 1980 UnitName=20 Gv.APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Gross Dölln Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=35 StartAircraft=35 MaxPilots=35 StartPilots=35 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M // strarted upgrading tu Su-17M4 in summer 1982 UnitName=730 APIB VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Neuruppin Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=35 StartAircraft=35 MaxPilots=35 StartPilots=35 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=50 MissionChance[CAS]=70 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=50 Upgrade[01].Date=XX/XX/1983 Upgrade[01].Type=Su-17M4 [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Yak-28R UnitName=11 ORAP“Vitebskiy” VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=24 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=24 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=90 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M3 // plus 5 Su-17UM3 UnitName=294 ORAP VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Welzow Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=30 StartAircraft=25 MaxPilots=30 StartPilots=25 Experience=90 Morale=100 Supply=60 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=100 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=MiG-25BM // actually a mixture of MiG-25BM/RBT/RBV/RBS/RBF UnitName=931 Gv.ORAP "Prajskiy" VVS ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=SovietCamo1 BaseArea=Werneuchen Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=21 StartAircraft=21 MaxPilots=21 StartPilots=21 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=70 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=0 MissionChance[CAS]=0 MissionChance[sEAD]=90 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-24 // Fencer-B/-C since 1981 AlternateType=Su-7BM UnitName=116 "Radomskiy" APIB ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=Soviet BaseArea=Brand Airbase BaseMoveChance=20 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=32 StartAircraft=30 MaxPilots=32 StartPilots=30 Experience=50 Morale=100 Supply=80 Intelligence=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=80 MissionChance[CAS]=20 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER [AirUnit0XX] AircraftType=Su-17M2 AlternateType=Su-7BM UnitName=497 APIB ForceID=2 Nation=SOVIET DefaultTexture=Soviet BaseArea=Grossenhain Airbase BaseMoveChance=20 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=24 StartAircraft=24 MaxPilots=24 StartPilots=24 Experience=50 Morale=100 Supply=80 Intelligence=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=0 MissionChance[CAP]=0 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=0 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=80 MissionChance[CAS]=20 MissionChance[sEAD]=40 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=40 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER Edited December 26, 2010 by SFP1Ace Quote
FrankD Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) Great discovery SFP1Ace and thank you for the "SFized" orbats! Would you have such a piece of marvel for the fifties? PS: by the way, if you have any difficulty to understand some text wrote in French, feel free to ask me for a translation, it will be my pleasure. Merry Xmas Edited December 26, 2010 by FrankD Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) Thank you, FrankD! Well, ltely I've been tinkering with the idea of creating detailed orbats (or even updating whole campaign files) for the original '56, '62, '68, '79 & beyond scenarios for SF2:E. This would not only be limited to units of Soviet Airforce in East Germany like the above, but it would also encompass East German Airforce, Polish Airforce, Soviet Airforce in Poland and (if I find decent sources) Czechoslovak Airforce. Obviously many of the required aircrafts don't exist in stock game, so use of such campaigns would require downloading missing stuff from CA or even creating placeholders from existing aircrafts via *.ini edits. If time permits, I think I'll do it ;). Of course one may wonder what's the point , since SF games aren't even "realistic" (tho VERY enjoyable!) simulators so why go the lengths of tweaking the order of battle when even the stock one is pretty good? To me it's this freedom to customize game to suit one needs is what makes SF series great! P.S. Merry Christmas to you too EDIT: As for the French, thanks but Google translator took care of it . I could understand it pretty well (broken English FTW! lol). Edited December 26, 2010 by SFP1Ace Quote
FrankD Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 That sound to be a great project you have there. What are you still searching for actually? Maybe that I could give you an hand on it. About the "right" platform to simulate an in depth Cold war era Central European conflict in the air, I'm not sure that any commercial sim is fit, even if a "wargame" like Harpoon can do it but the whole fun part of flying is then missing, so probably that SF could be pushed far enough, as NF did somewhat, to suit such tastes. Have you read the page titled "The Air Assets of the Western Groupof Forces" on the 16va.be website? It gives nice details about the location of the aerial units given their roles. Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) Thanks thats a good read! I've got my hands on decent sources on DDR Airforce and Soviet Airforce in East germany (16 va). I'm still looking for detailed source on the Airforce of People's Republic of Poland, Soviet Airforce in Poland (4 va) and their Czechoslovak counterparts (covering whole Cold War period). Preferably in English or Polish, but I can always use Google translator . Edited December 26, 2010 by SFP1Ace Quote
Erwin_Hans Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 For DDR,check this http://home.snafu.de/veith/logbuch.htm Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) For DDR,check this http://home.snafu.de/veith/logbuch.htm Thanks, yes I've found this site yesterday (hence the whole idea). I've also dl'ed some pdf books in german on Soviet 16 va in DDR - "Sowjetishe Fliegerkrafte Deutschland 1945-1994 1-4". I've also found some polish and russian sites with some intel on Polish and Soviet airforce in communist Poland: www.sgvavia.ru http://www.fgmasters...pic.php?pid=137 Edited December 26, 2010 by SFP1Ace Quote
Erwin_Hans Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Plus: I know there is a book called -<Soviet Air Force In Poland>,but not found. One more book:<Soviet Air Force In Hungary And Austria>,I got Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 Thanks, I'll try to locate this "Soviet Air Force In Poland" book . Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 http://www.polot.info/ This site seems to have very extensive and detailed info on all units of Polish Airforce. (Un)fortunately it's in polish. Use Google translator at your own risk! Quote
FrankD Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) You probably do but it always worth to be sure. You already know these two things, right? Military Airfield Directory http://www.mil-airfi...de/index-en.htm Warsaw Pact Order of Battle - June 1989: http://www.scribd.co...attle-June-1989 Orbat VVS & PVO 1991 http://www.mediafire...tVVSPVO1991.doc Edited December 26, 2010 by FrankD Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 26, 2010 Author Posted December 26, 2010 Yeah, I know these, but thanks anyway ! Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 this is a great idea and despite the language barrier great resources. earlier orbats from end of WW2 to Berlin Crisis 61 could be more difficult to find tho but worth it with what TK has put out as well as mods. Quote
+paulopanz Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 Hey Guys very interesting I have a long time project about a 1964 scenario. If You find some OOBs for that here please PM to me. ...but what we will need is to add some forgotten airfield on the map borders to put new units. Paul Quote
+Gepard Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) Ehm, guys, the site Warsaw Pact Order of Battle - June 1989: http://www.scribd.co...attle-June-1989 is full of nonsense. I dont know where the knowledge comes, but its more a talesbook than a seriouse source. I tried to read this source. There are a lot of misspellings, like Weimer and Rudelstadt. Correct it must be Weimar and Rudolstadt. But this is not so important. More important are wrong data. For instance: GDR Air Force (LSK/LV) This is written in the source: 1. 1st Air Defense Division Cottbus, GDR a. 4 Fighter Regiments: 45 MIG29, 90 MIG23, 45 MIG21 (45 per regiment) b. 1 FighterBomber Regiment: 30 MIG27, 15 SU25 c. 1 Recon Squadron: 18 MIG21RF 2. 3rd Air Defense Division Trollenhagen, GDR a. 2 Fighter Regiments: 45 MIG23, 45 MIG21 (45 per regiment) b. 1 FighterBomber Regiment: 30 MIG27, 15 SU22 Correct would be: 1 sqd at Peenemünde 10 MiG-23MF 30 MiG-23ML (JG-9 H-Rau) 1 sqd Trollenhagen 40 MiG-21PFM/SPS (JG-2 J.Gagarin) 1 sqd at Holzdorf 40 MiG-21MF/SPS-K (JG-1 F.Schmenkel) 1 sqd at Preschen 12 MiG-21MF 20 MiG-29 (JG-3 W.Komarow) 1 sqd at Drewitz 50 MiG-21PFM/SPS (JG-7 W.Pieck deleted 23.10.89) 1 sqd at Marxwalde 41 MiG-21bis (JG-8 H.Matern) 1 sqd at Rothenburg 26 MiG-21SPS (FAG-15 H.Kapelle training unit) 1 sqd at Bautzen 49 L-39ZO (FAG-25 L.Ratz training unit) 1 sqd at Drewitz 18 MiG-23BN (JBG-37 K.Gottwald) 1 sdq at Laage 24 Su-22M4 (JBG-77 G.L.v.Blücher) 1 aqd at Laage 24 Su-22M4 (MFG-28 P.Wieczoreck Navy unit) As you see its completly different. No Su-25, no MiG-21RF, no MiG-27, number of MiG-23 and MiG-29 much to high. Number of MiG-21 much to low. Same with ground forces. In the source is said, that were enourmous numbers of BMP-2 in east german service. In reality there were only 30, because the USSR was not able and willing to sell this high capable vehicle. The source said that there were enourmos numbers of T-72 in east german service. In reality it were 549. 283 of outdated T-72 basic version, 130 T-72M (also outdated), 136 T-72M1 (modern) then there were around 500 modernized T-55AM-2 and 1500 outdated T-55. Edited December 27, 2010 by Gepard Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 27, 2010 Author Posted December 27, 2010 Yeah, the equipment and its quantities didn't make sense when I read it, this orbat was created by some American soldier or something and seems to be very inaccurate. But on the other hand this site: http://home.snafu.de/veith/logbuch.htm Gepard, can you verify it's accuracy, pretty please? Quote
FrankD Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Some intels about Czech Migs: http://www.valka.cz/clanek_10770.html http://www.valka.cz/clanek_10623.html Original source: http://combatace.com/index.php?app=downloads&module=display§ion=findpost&id=1257 Quote
SFP1Ace Posted December 27, 2010 Author Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) Thanks a lot! Frank, I'm halfway through updating a 1956 Warsaw Pact ORBAT for SF2:E Exp2 campaign, will release it "in 2 weeks" ;) Edited December 27, 2010 by SFP1Ace Quote
+Gepard Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 Yeah, the equipment and its quantities didn't make sense when I read it, this orbat was created by some American soldier or something and seems to be very inaccurate. But on the other hand this site: http://home.snafu.de/veith/logbuch.htm Gepard, can you verify it's accuracy, pretty please? This is a reliable source. The data he gives are from 2.10.1990, also the last day of LSK/LV. In June 1989 the data were as i wrote in my post above. There were if i remember right 2 losses of L-39 and a MiG-23ML in 1990. Quote
FrankD Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 A ressource about DDR's helicopters, very detailled, as it talks about chopper dynamics and flying but also details the training and career of the pilots. In an ever closer relationship to your ongoing project, it offers some nice details about the Military Doctrine of the Warsaw Pact, the USSR and East Germany and the army helicopter airfields, both "fixed", aka peacetime airfields, and prepared helicopter landing sites, from which chopper would do their business. http://nva-flieger.de/ (in German but if necessary, the Google's translation to English is intelligible enough) Quote
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