Andy73 3 Posted January 14, 2011 Hello there I was playing OFF for a long time with no Problems and very smooth Graphics. My System is WinXP, with an AMD ASRock 770DE Board with a Duo-Core 2,8 GHZ and 4 GB RAM and a Geforce 9600GT with 1024 MB and a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS. The Resolution for OFF was always 1280 x 1024, because my TFT Monitor has no higher Resolution... But it all worked fine, till today I was always playing between 40-50 FPS with sometimes very, very little Stuttering, using little Programs such as Game Booster and CPU Control, which helped me to get a smooth Gameplay. Two Weeks ago I've buyed a Geforce GTX 460 with 1024 MB. Installed the 260.99 Driver, had Problems to get the Card correctly installed (because of HD Audio Driver), but now the Card works fine. But since that I've got big Problems to run OFF as smoothly as it was before. I am using the same Settings which I used for my 9600 GT, in the Image Quality (3-5-3-3-5-2) , in the Overrides and so on. Also the Settings for my Nvidia Card in Windows XP are the same as before (4x Anisotropic, 8xQ AA and so on). First of all, when I'm starting my Plane and I'm flying over my Airfield, the FPS are going down to 10, with very big Stuttering. When I'm dogfighting another enemy Plane and I hit it, the Textures of the Plane disappeared when I fly close to him and it went to an "all black" Plane with no Textures. Very bad I've tried several new Settings, for Example I've found out that for my new Card is the best to set the Index Buffer Pool and the Vertex Buffer Pool in the Texture Info both to MANAGED and the Fullscreen Swap Effect to DISCARD. The stuttering is gone, the Frames especially over my Airfield are at the 30's, but I still have the Problem with the Textures when I shoot at another Plane... They went to black when I hit that enemy Plane, especially when I'm flying very close to him. Which one of you Computer-Aces is an Nvidia-Card User and know about those Problems? Can anybody help please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted January 14, 2011 I'm no computer-ace, but here's what I'd try. 1) Uninstall the current driver, then use Driver Sweeper to make sure you've removed any remnants from your system. (Make SURE you follow the instructions with Driver Sweeper carefully). 2) Reinstall the current driver, set up your OFF cfg again and see if your problem is solved. 3) If that doesn't work, use the method listed in step #1 to remove the current driver yet again, but this time install a different (earlier) driver version. Time-consuming I know, but I really do suspect your issue is driver related....not hardware related. Cheers, Parky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted January 15, 2011 With absolutely no relevance to that detail slider, or even the old Days for that matter, I have a really bad headache>>>>>>>>>:suicide2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy73 3 Posted January 16, 2011 Seems to be a Problem with the Anisotropic Filtering. When I set the AF high up to 16x, the Effect is gone When I set the AF down to 2x, 4x or 8x, the Effect is still there again.... I've re-Installed the Driver again and again, and it seems to work overall better now. The 260 Driver runs perfectly with this Card, the 258 Driver, which two are the only ones compatible to an GTX 460, runs a little bit slower. Will see the next Days what will happen in Air Combat.... I've set the Overall Detail Slider down to 2 now, is this correct? Before it was on 3. Thanks for your Help Guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parky 8 Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) Best to adjust your detail sliders individually. Try running with your effects slider on 5 and the rest on 3. If you're still seeing poor performance, try reducing your clouds, scenery detail and terrain sliders one at a time.....in that order. You can run with the clouds slider on 1 and you won't see a real big difference between that and a setting of 5. Cheers, Parky Edited January 16, 2011 by Parky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almccoyjr 7 Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Andy73 It "seems" your initial problems began with the conflict between the SB HD driver and the Nvidia driver. SB has know issues in XP where video and audio drivers conflict. Shoot, SB has driver issues period; great product but their drivers suck. Try temporarily using the on board audio chip. Via and Realtek audio chips have much better results working with Nvidia drivers than SB. Get the current HD audio driver for your ASRock mobo and give it a whirl. Once you've got on board sound working, reset your OFF sliders to where you originally had them and go for several spins. At best, OFF will run as well as before and you'll be one up going back to research the SB problem on some forums. At worse, you'll be where you are now but knowing that the audio portion is not one of the culprits. From experience, I simply quit using SB products long ago; I got quite agitated being a "sound technician" every time I upgraded OS's/audio drivers. I'm using Realtek on board audio and haven't experienced conflicts. Bad sound reproduction yes, but Realtek has stepped up to plate and I now find them more than adequate for gaming. VIA isn't to shabby either. Edited January 17, 2011 by almccoyjr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy73 3 Posted January 31, 2011 Hello after trying several settings I do not know what to do. For better understanding I've posted now some Pics to show you what my Problem is: On the first Picture you'll see on the lower left the FE2 that I have attacked. So far, so good, no problems here. The second Picture is the same Scene, but from another Point of View. You see that the FE2 is now completely black. But only if I get very close to it. From far away the Textures are back there again. Don't know what to do. Are you sure it is a Problem with the HD Audio Driver? I've ordered a newer Soundcard (ASUS Xonar D2) and will install the next Days Windows7, also of course DirectX11, so hopefully this Problem will be solved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almccoyjr 7 Posted January 31, 2011 Don't know what to do. Are you sure it is a Problem with the HD Audio Driver? I've ordered a newer Soundcard (ASUS Xonar D2) and will install the next Days Windows7, also of course DirectX11, so hopefully this Problem will be solved... I would have held off on getting a new(er), different sound card since you're now going to migrate to W7. The way W7 handles hardware drivers is totally different. No, I'm not sure the HD audio driver was the problem; however, you had an install issue and the conflict started there. In trying to troubleshoot your original setup, I suggested disabling your sound card and enabling onboard sound. Since you had problems with driver conflicts between the SC and VC, eliminating the SC and its driver would simply make diagnosing easier. You would have had one less variable to contend with. Parky is spot on using Driver Sweeper. It can also be used to clean out audio driver remnants as well. You'll also need to the Dx redistributable from MS for use with legacy games. Dx10/11 borked DirectX, hence MS reissuing the redistributable to correct that problem. plug_nickel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy73 3 Posted January 31, 2011 I'm getting a complete new internal HDD so that I can make everything (and REALLY everything) new My old HDD was only 150 GB. So with everything new on my System (Graphics-Card, Sound Card, more RAM, new Windows, new HDD, new Power Supply, new TFT with HDMI), I will see what will happen then. Hopefully all will work fine then. Will install very carefully the Audio-Drivers Thanks for your Tips Lads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy73 3 Posted January 31, 2011 No, my 9600 was running with my old 400 Watt Power supply with no Problems... I've buyed this new 650 Watt Power-Thing for my new System. Minimum required for an GTX 460 is 450 Watt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted February 6, 2011 If you installed any mods for OFF such as HDR Bloom dll or whatever remove it. That pic just looks like very high contrast or something. Also maybe check your settings in the video card display settings maybe you have high gamma or constrast setup somewhere or a colour profile for your old card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy73 3 Posted February 24, 2011 Finally I've found a Solution for my Problem! Just set the settings in the Graphics Config now a little bit different as they were for my old 9600 GT... After many Days of trying it out my Problem is now solved In the Overrides I must set "Disable Composite Aircraft Textures". In the Texture Info I've set the Swapeffect to COPY V-SYNC. Now it works fine, no difference in the Graphics, and running smoother as it was before. My Problem with the black Planes is gone!!! My Frames are constantly at 50. Don't know what the Composite Aircraft Textures are doing, but I see absolutely no Difference in the Graphics. Greetings from Germany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted February 25, 2011 Very odd Andy but thansk for reporting back. I have an Nvidia 480 and it works fine without those settings. In cfs3config "Composite Aircraft Texture Usage" slider should be set to 0, that is the default too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
