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Hi all,

 

I'm making the skin at the top of this page: http://premium1.uplo...STeRs//21-3.jpg for the MiG-21MF. I can't seem to find out what the unit is, so if anybody knows, that would be great. It would be even better if they could find the numbers for this unit.

 

Thanks! :drinks:

liamp51

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I found some very specific information on this aircraft here: http://techmag.valka.cz/let_l_mig21_3g.htm

 

Mikoyan MiG-Gurjevič-21MF, 7701

Manufacturer: Race No. 30 "Znamja Truda", Moscow Serial number: 967701

Year: 1973

 

Biography:

22.6.1973 made ​​with camouflage paint

the same year flight to Czechoslovakia to the 6th sbolp at SO LOK was stripped of paint

in May 1988 passed the 9th slp

 

in 1991 at the 9th sbolp

 

after the year 1993 remains in CR

 

from March 19, 1993 at the 11th slp

 

from September 1993 at the 82nd sslt

 

in September 1993 damaged in collision with 4421

 

after repair in 1994, he joined "stressové flyers" in Caslav

 

from January 1995 at LZO LZS-1 in Líních

painted black with all accessories in the national colors on the upper torso

the rudder and the letters SS symbol F in "Team Delta" with the numeral III

 

from June 1996 to July 1997 out of service in the 51st LOZ Line

 

in 1997 got a wing with olétanou camouflage

 

21.7.1997 flight to LZO Czech Budejovice

 

from 26.8.1997 to 29.8.1997 equipped with a new three-color camouflage of segments <---This is the paint scheme you are intereseted in!

 

from 1998 at the 4th zTL, adapted for carrying container, SM

Posted (edited)

They actually show this paint job being applied here: http://www.211squadron.cz/foto/how/index.html

Is it possible that this aircraft is from the same unit as the website? 211th Tactical Squadron?

Definitely a 1997 paint job and very famous from all of the web photos I have seen.

 

Ahh, that website had details: 7701 finished its career with the 211th, but since the paint job was so popular they decided to show how it was created. It was serving with LZO when painted in the splinter scheme, which fits with the entry in the biography above:

21.7.1997 flight to LZO Czech Budejovice. That is probably as good of an answer as you are going to get without talking to Czech people.

Edited by streakeagle
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From "Mikoyan MiG-21" by Yefim Gordon and Keith Dexter:

Czech Air Force MiG-21MF '7701 Grey', 4. SSLT, 1997

 

7701 Black MiG-21MF 967701 built 22-6-73, delivered 6 to 10-73, first unit 6. SBoLP

E, 9. SLP, 9. SBoLP, silver overall.

Painted in 'Delta' aerobatic team colors in 1992 (black overall with white/red/blue arrows on upper surfaces and 'LS' on rudder)

11. SLP, 82. SSLT, damaged Pizen-Line 9-1993 in collision with MiG-21MF '4421' but repaired,

11-1993 moved to 4. SSLT, 'Stress Team' Caslav

between 6 and 9-1994 stored at Pizen-Line

21-7-1997 to LZO Ceske Budejovice, painted in experimental three-tone disruptive grey scheme with low-visibility insignia as '7701 Grey'.

Moved 1999 to 41. SLT, withdrawn from service 21-3-2002 and put in storage at LZO Ceske Budejovice where noted 2005.

 

So there you go :)

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Even more info from the web: http://www.hobbymastercollector.com/HA0140Mig-21MFStressTeam.html

 

Czech "Stress Team"

Official name was "Letecké středisko inspektora letectva a PVO AČR" / "Flying centre of

Air Force and Air Protection Surveyor of Army of the Czech Republic". Later renamed

"Letecký zkušební odbor" / "Flying Test Department". The team was officially formed

1.3.1994 (director was Chief of Air Force GenMjr. P. Štrůbl) at Čáslav AB. December

1994 the unit was relocated from Čáslav AB (because there already were a lot of regular

air force squadrons located there) to Plzeň-Líně AB. In January 1995 the unit was

renamed as "Letecký zkušební odbor" (LZO).

 

Commander of the unit was pplk. Josef Rada, former commander of the 9.sbolp on

Bechyně AB, most of the unit’s pilots were from 9.sbolp as well. Unit’s aircrafts - MiG-

21MF - 4307, 5209, 7701, 7711 (all silver except 7711, and from 11.slp Žatec AB), 9410,

9412, 9414, 9802 (all in green-brown camo and from 1.šlp Přerov AB), MiG-21UM - 0165

and 3756, MiG-21R - 1501, 2149 and one L-39ZA number 5013.

 

The main objective of the unit was developing new tactics, training procedures and the

application of these to fighter units. Very soon the unit was assigned the task of

displaying the Mig-21 at various air shows so they were known as the Czech Air Force

"Delta Team" as well.

 

The "Stress Squadron" was canceled soon after the crash of MiG-21 MF (7711, pilot Mjr.

Luboš Kubát) and MiG-21UM (3756, pilot Mjr. Miroslav Holak and technician Roman

Kovařík – who was onboard against Czech Air Force rules!!!) over the town of České

Budějovice on 8.6.1998. The collision occurred because of bad weather while arriving

from an air-show.

Posted

Thanks streakeagle! :drinks::grin: That really helped! I couldn't figure out if it was an experimental scheme or not so I was trying to figure out if I had to do anymore numbers for it. I guess not! :grin:

 

She's coming along, and looks quite pretty I think! (I love the MiG-21)

 

img00130.jpg

 

Thanks! :drinks:

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I have a soft spot for the MiG-21 too. When we player Air Superiority (the board game) or Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, I was the only one willing to fly red team, so I quite of ten found myself in a MiG-21 or MiG-29. That is a NICE skin.

Posted (edited)

Yes, its a very nice skin. But had not had the czech "NATO"-rized MiG-21MF a small black antenna an the back? I think this was the MiG-21MFN. But perhaps this bird was not brought to the MFN standard.

 

 

Here an other interesting czech camo sceme: Made by Michael Urban

 

post-3395-0-40771400-1312128284.jpg

 

 

You see the black antenna i mentioned short before the tail.

Edited by Gepard
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harry::

I have a soft spot for the MiG-21 too. When we player Air Superiority (the board game) or Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, I was the only one willing to fly red team, so I quite of ten found myself in a MiG-21 or MiG-29.

We used SPI's AIR WAR. Man that was intense detail. Too much probably.

 

Mee and buddy. He and I had long builded model planes and stuff. I always flew Red. But one time I challenged him:

 

I flew MiG-21 and he F-104. I turned, he turned (sorta). I win. :good:

 

The Deal was, we swap planes.

 

Me BLUE in F-104. I zoomed. He zoomed (kinda). I win again. :good:

 

I knew how to look at the numbers, and play accordingly. That's how it goes. I knew how to fly F-104 against, well anything. I knew how NOT to fly against F-104.

 

Now...how to fly AGAINST F-104, I don't think anybody ever figured a way to do that.

Posted

I had all of the air combat board games and miniatures rules. Air War was complex and detailed, but flawed. Air Superiority was much better: easier to play and more realistic. Combined with the Air Strike and Desert Falcons supplements, Air Superiority had a comprehensive planeset. But the ultimate was when Speed of Heat was released, making the official rules more realistic than my own custom set I had created and expanding the plane set to cover pretty much every jet that flew from WW2 to the present. I recently moved to Orlando and finally threw all of my old games away. But I have one new one that is better than all of them: http://www.airbattle.com/Birds_of_Prey/Welcome.html

 

It evolved out of Air Superiority, but its 3d movement system is as realistic as it can be and even easier to use than Air Superiority/Speed of Heat.

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