Throttle management jumps always to 50%

[Creaghorn 10]

i have a saitek evo force. since the last couple days in BHAH the throttle always jumps to 50% every once in a while. sometimes some minutes there is nothing, sometimes it jumps permanently to 50% despite using the lever up and down or using the key numbers 1-0. first i thought, cool. kind of sudden broken engine every once in a while. but now it's really annoying since it makes flying impossible. it is like there is an invisible kobold sitting on my keyboard and pushing randomly "5" all the time. it must be just in OFF since when checking the hardware management and testing it, there are no such jumps.

 

any ideas somebody, gentlemen?

[+Polovski 460]

Sounds like an odd mapping set in the controls / joystick software (if any). Maybe something else is mapped to throttle too somewhere (numpad/view key?).

[Creaghorn 10]

Sounds like an odd mapping set in the controls / joystick software (if any). Maybe something else is mapped to throttle too somewhere (numpad/view key?).

 

thanks mark,

 

i think i found the problem, though i don't know why it occured. i tried to remember what i have done the last couple days i never did before. i had a bomber campaign and in the last days i used F9 bomb view after dropping the bomb. when pressing often enough you see every bomb until you see your own AC again. when the bombview is active and it explodes, after some seconds it automatically switches to your AC again. from there i continued the sortie. i think because i did not switch it manually back to AC view it somehow stuck in bombing view (although not indicating anything visually). from then on the engine management had this issue. now i hit F9 again, although beeing in an alb in QC, but the issue is gone.

 

usually i have my monk-moments, e.g. volume in car etc. always has to have even numbers. and everything i switch manually on i usually switch manually off again. this time i did not with bomb view and something like that happens. that proves that my monk moments are correct

[+Polovski 460]

Interesting one glad you found it - yes in bomb aim you can steer the aircraft slowly too so did they feel sluggish too ;) ?

[Creaghorn 10]

Interesting one glad you found it - yes in bomb aim you can steer the aircraft slowly too so did they feel sluggish too ;) ?

 

usually with F9 the camera follows the bomb until exploding, then after few seconds it automatically jumps to an outsideview of your aircraft. from there i had hit F4 for virtual cockpit again and continued. but i think the automatic jump from the exploded bomb to the outsideview caused the issue. when after the bomb exploded i manually hit F9 again to get to the outside view (and with that deactivate the bomb tracking view again), and from there again back to VC view with F4, then the issue is gone. strange, isn't it?

[+Polovski 460]

Yes odd, I guess it's similar to the F3 view which seems to remember what you set previously too.

[Herr Prop-Wasche 7]

I have a similar issue also with my Saitek Evo joystick, but mine occurs when in the heat of a dogfight, I jam on both of my rudder pedals at the same time. My throttle instantly reduces to 50%, but I am able to restore full throttle by jiggling the throttle control. I actually use this sometimes to make my opponent overshoot, so it's not all bad!

[+Polovski 460]

Rather odd thing to do though so I'm not surprised something odd happens ;) . In WW1 that would be mostly impossible or you'd snap something.

[Olham 164]

Herr Prop-Wasche - it shouldn't be allowed!

 

I had been wondering if you use pedals, Creaghorn, and if it might have something to do with them.

Make sure you de-activate the breaks.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Olham

[Creaghorn 10]

Herr Prop-Wasche - it shouldn't be allowed!

 

I had been wondering if you use pedals, Creaghorn, and if it might have something to do with them.

Make sure you de-activate the breaks.

 

yes, i use pedals (and so should you my friend. you miss some important realism if not) and breaks are deactivated since day one. the problem never occured until the last couple days, but i sorted it and all works well again. for some reason if not "officially" deactivating the bombtracking view again by cycling with F9 until you see your own AC again, the engine issue is triggered. probably somewhere deeply coded by mistake or whatever. that leads me to the idea that this "fault" might be of good use to generate random engine failures as an official feature. but that's another thing.

[Olham 164]

yes, i use pedals (and so should you my friend. you miss some important realism if not)

...and the Castor Oil sprayer in front of a fan? You never give up, eyh?

 

I got so used to flying the craft with the twist stick, that I have thought of this:

I'll carry on flying OFF like this for now, until P4 comes.

Then I will start it like a completely new sim, and learn the use of rudder pedals.

UncleAl said, that the twist stick only reproduced part of the whole possible rudder movements.

That would mean, I would be even more agile then?

Oh dear - then all turn fighter pilots should better dress up warm.

[Creaghorn 10]

...and the Castor Oil sprayer in front of a fan? You never give up, eyh?

 

I got so used to flying the craft with the twist stick, that I have thought of this:

I'll carry on flying OFF like this for now, until P4 comes.

Then I will start it like a completely new sim, and learn the use of rudder pedals.

UncleAl said, that the twist stick only reproduced part of the whole possible rudder movements.

That would mean, I would be even more agile then?

Oh dear - then all turn fighter pilots should better dress up warm.

 

no, not castor oil. just things which are yet available to add realism. .

that's a good idea olham, waiting for p4 and then start like a "rookie" so to say.

dunno about how much the twiststick reproduces all movements, but at least in my case the twist stick felt more easy for flying and aiming since there is only hand eye coordination needed and the hand automatically does what your eyes are following. with rudder pedals there is hand-eye-and feet coordination needed and i needed quite a time to get used to them. in the beginning i sometimes simply forgot to use my feet while i was using the stick. especially on starting and landing. i'm sure you'll get used to them quite quickly when you start to use them (and indeed, then the AI has to dress up warm). also i think that doing immelmanns and hammerheads etc. is easier with pedals.

 

oh, by the way. i thought about trying, when creating a new rookiepilot, to emulate a bit the rookie-clumsyness by starting and landing with the other hand (in my case right hand because i usually fly lefthanded). that would add a bit more rough landings and the lack of feel for startings and landings. if that's not barmy...

[Olham 164]

...with rudder pedals there is hand-eye-and feet coordination needed and i needed quite a time to get used to them.

in the beginning i sometimes simply forgot to use my feet while i was using the stick. especially on starting and landing.

Well, I was an (amateur) drummer - a drum kit is operated with both hands and both feet, all doing different things.

So I hope, that won't be too much a problem. It's only the forgetting about the twisting of the stick, that may be difficult.

 

...oh, by the way. i thought about trying, when creating a new rookiepilot, to emulate a bit the rookie-clumsyness

by starting and landing with the other hand (in my case right hand because i usually fly lefthanded).

that would add a bit more rough landings and the lack of feel for startings and landings. if that's not barmy...

That is pretty barmy indeed, and so I understand it very well. But remember, the German pilots were usually very well

trained in big Fliegerschulen (like Müncheberg, southwest of Berlin; or Döberitz, west of Berlin); so they would know

how to land their kites, I guess. See the pics here, if you are interested in Fliegerschulen:

 

http://www.jasta11.co.uk/page28.htm

 

http://www.mc-mk.de/MC/Doeberitz/index.html

 

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Edited August 10, 2011 by Olham

[Olham 164]

PS: Your "rookie" idea is growing on me, Creaghorn.

I have had all that "winning the war singlehandedly" long enough, and it was pleasure for the time being;

but it would be interesting to start an early rookie carreer in a Halberstadt, and see how long I can last.

I hope very much, that an improved AI in P4 will make it even more challenging, and even less easy.

Edited August 10, 2011 by Olham

[Creaghorn 10]

PS: Your "rookie" idea is growing on me, Creaghorn.

I have had all that "winning the war singlehandedly" long enough, and it was pleasure for the time being;

but it would be interesting to start an early rookie carreer in a Halberstadt, and see how long I can last.

I hope very much, that an improved AI in P4 will make it even more challenging, and even less easy.

 

this "wronghanded" starting and landing is probably more useful for british campaigns since german pilots mostly were twoseater pilots previously. but it should be done just for the first 5 sorties or so to prevent your other hand getting used to it, and just for starts and landings. when in formation then one should fly as always. especially with the camel it might be very interesting .

thanks for the pics

[Olham 164]

Yeah, Creaghorn, and I hope they will make the Camel more "beasty" for P4; especially for RAF_Louvert.

He is definitely barmy enough to appreciate such masochistic pleasures.

Edited August 10, 2011 by Olham