jeanba 1,920 Posted June 11, 2013 Hello Phimat is only a contraction of Philipps / Matra. As such there are a lot of variants of the Phimat, and its content : I know that for the Super-Etendard, the phimat contained chaffs, it is likely the same thing for the jaguar (from what I udnerstood, the "full" version was too heavy). For the Mirage IVP, it was a combination of flares and chaffs. I don't really know for the Mirage III and 5F. For Mirages F1, I think it was both. For most British and German planes, it was both. All those information being subject to corrections. So I think we need for the 2 or even 3 variants : - 60 chaffs - 120 chaffs - mix Nato5 uses the combination, the Mirage III from Deoliveiraand team use 60 chaffs, they should be differentiated. Thank you in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion-1 1,228 Posted June 11, 2013 Yeah, I think we need a new pack of French ECM pods, including the different Phimats but also jammers like Remora, Barracuda et cetera.. I have already started to collect some refs but more are welcome! It is on my to-do list, relating to the Mirage F.1 pack.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted July 1, 2013 Phimat was a Chaff-only dispenser. The chaff was stored inside in several tubes. Over the time I've read several numbers but the most common and from a good source was 210 chaff packets. Weight with full load is 105 kg. A similar dispenser pod is the Sycomor It was used by many foreign Mirage F1 users. Sycomor has 3 tubes for chaff at the rear and the forward part holds 7 dispensers with 4 cartridges each which are used for flares. Lenght of the pod is 2.95 m Its advantage is the ability to load both chaff and flares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeanba 1,920 Posted July 8, 2013 There seem to have been a lot of Phimat variants : just like there are a lot of "Ford Cars". At least for the Mirage IV, I am 99% sure there is a mix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,101 Posted July 9, 2013 The Mirage IV used a BOZ pod which has both chaff/flares + the integral dispenser system in the rear fuselage bottom. Early on it was Phimat for chaff and the integral system for flares. There might be another Phimat version ... I never saw any info about it though ... so who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeanba 1,920 Posted July 12, 2013 Yes, this is what I came to think when reading various sources Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
