Troubles starting and landing the Spitfire in SF2I

[Peeppu]

Hi gentlemen,

 

I have many problems starting and landing the Spitfire in SF2I.

 

Always turns to one side during the start and landing.

 

I do not have that problem with another planes.

 

What am I doing wrong?

[Trotski]

Torque from the engine, apply a little opposite rudder.

[Peeppu]

Yes, of course, that is normal.

 

But I think, the problem si with the spur.

 

Can I block it for start and landing?

[+baffmeister]

Which Spitfire, the IX? Some of the later versions with retractable tail wheel require an edit of  the stock data.ini to get the tail wheel working properly.

 

For the TW Spitfire, make sure you do the take off with the flaps up, otherwise it becomes quite uncontrollable.  For anyone with a flyable version of the TW C-47, it has the same issue when doing a take off with flaps extended. The take off with flaps problem is due to a low stalling angle coupled with a large negative delta stall alpha angle with flaps extended.

 

Here are some edits to try:

 

For flaps:

 

[FlightControl]
StallSpeed=41.03
CruiseSpeed=95.13
ClimbSpeed=72.28
CornerSpeed=119.53
LandingSpeed=41.99
MaxG=8.00
MaxSpeedSL=174.35
MachLimit=0.642
PitchDamper=0.0
RollDamper=0.0
YawDamper=0.0
GunBoresightAngle=0
RocketBoresightAngle=3
FlapSettingForTakeOff=0//...........add this line
FlapSettingForLanding=1//.............add this line

 

NOTE: From my experience, the FlapSettingForTakeOff=0 doesn't always work so you will want to check flaps up for take off every time when flying the Spit.

 

For the Spits with retractable tail wheel you will have to modify the stock tail gear data like this to get a functioning tail wheel:

 

[TailGear]
SystemType=LANDING_GEAR
Retractable=TRUE
DeployTime=5.0
AnimationID=1
DragArea=0.08
HideGearNode=TRUE
ModelNodeName=tail_gear_strut
InsideNodeName=tail_gear_bay_inside
ShockAnimationID=4
ShockStroke=0.12
SpringFactor=2.0
DampingFactor=1.8
WheelNodeName=tail_wheel
RotationAxis=X-AXIS
ReverseModelOrientation=FALSE
RollingRadius=0.13
CastoringWheel=TRUE
CastoringNodeName=tail_gear_frame
Steerable=TRUE
MaxSteeringSpeed=30.88
Locking=FALSE
MaxSteeringAngle=45.0
InputName=YAW_CONTROL
ControlRate=1.0
HasBrakes=FALSE
RollingCoefficient=0.05
MaxDeploySpeed=71.53//.......................Add this line......................!!
MaxLoadFactor=4.0

[Peeppu]

 

Here are some edits to try:

 

For flaps:

 

[FlightControl]

StallSpeed=41.03

CruiseSpeed=95.13

ClimbSpeed=72.28

CornerSpeed=119.53

LandingSpeed=41.99

MaxG=8.00

MaxSpeedSL=174.35

MachLimit=0.642

PitchDamper=0.0

RollDamper=0.0

YawDamper=0.0

GunBoresightAngle=0

RocketBoresightAngle=3

FlapSettingForTakeOff=0//...........add this line

FlapSettingForLanding=1//.............add this line

 

 

 

 

This solution really does not work.

 

The only possible way by me is a takeoff and landing without flaps.

Edited May 8, 2016 by Peeppu

[Peeppu]

Oh, what a great community! Problem solved!

 

Without flaps is the landing a joy!

 

Many thanks!

 

Strange problem with this Spitfire...

 

BTW I use Spitfire IX IDF.

[Wrench]

dosen't matter the country, but the statements in the data ini

[Peeppu]

Of course Wrench. I´am talking about the specific type of aircraft, "Spitfire IXC IDF", that does not work.

 

Other Spitfire types, IXc and IXe function without problem.

 

 

[Wrench]

that's NOT a stock aircraft. That's a user built version. I can garuntee with 99.9999999% certainty, that the data ini in that folder is outdated

 

the stock Spits are the 9c and 9e LF, as you can see in your own image

[JungleThing]

Try not to use Flight Model in Hard Mode. I noticed that some piston engined aircrafts behave strangely in Hard Mode (Flap assisted takeoff almost impossible). I believe you can use the flaps in takeoffs and landings using Normal or Easy mode.

I hope it works for you (Please, sorry my english).
 

Edited May 10, 2016 by JungleThing