Kansas Phantoms

[+EricJ]

11 minutes ago, CSomers611 said:

I've loved F-4's, especially the D model ever since I grew up around them at the 184th TFG. I believe the Phantom could hold their own as interceptors, which was a role of theirs. Dogfighting was where their maneuverability hindered them however, experience crews could lick F-15's and F-16's if they fought within their capabilities.

Okay but I'm still against dogfighting in it, especially with the flight model in the game, which remains to be seen if I will fly it anyway in the future.

[+daddyairplanes]

8 hours ago, CSomers611 said:

 however, experience crews could lick F-15's and F-16's if they fought within their capabilities.

there's tons of pics out there of Reserve birds with Eagle "kill" marks from the mid 70s.

but for perspective, the Reservists had all done time over Vietnam, while the Eagle crews were just learning their jets as well as writing the book on how to employ them. they engagements i heared about the most were DACT between VF-202 out of Dallas and Eagles from the training wing out of Luke.

not so sure about the Viper, unless the pilot did something incredibly stupid (like try to fight with stores still on). it was a revolutionary leap all around, for instance with Viper teams taking top place in bomb comps using just the basic computer and dumb bombs. well before they got "smart" with the Block 40s and 50s. the only advantage the Phantom had at the time was long range Sparrow shots, but she was on the way out the door when the Viper actually started using Sparrow capability and fully taking in the Arizona sun when they got AMRAAMs cleared

hell, B-52 tail gunners got lucky at Red Flag when Eagles tried for a gun kill, and A-10s have some cool gun camera phootage of all the teens when they'd try to get into the Hog's element (low and slow)

Edited February 21 by daddyairplanes