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with the above limits of the game engine, the real answer is to build a series of single missions and put them out mission packs. I'm hoping to be able to do some of that, but schedules have been insane of late.......

[quote name='FastCargo' date='Jun 16 2008, 03:36 PM' post='167794' We try like hell to manage risk... but sometimes, it's not your day. It's sad when it happens...I've buried more friends than I care to think about. But we try to learn lessons from it and go from there. FastCargo amen.. I've stood on the flight deck for memorial services all too often. In Naval Aviation we dont' always even get the remains back. In every case of the 10 friends and shipmates that I stood in memorials, we were unable to recover them. and still, we all go back out. -------------------------------- are you at Laughlin? my prospective son-in-law is in UPT at Vance. Just wondering if you might be flying with him one of these days.

outstanding!!!!! I have a separate install just for the War in the Pacific and am a dedicated prop-head - part of the time. . Great work as usual and looking forward to this one!

I was including allies in the mix, and it is all relative.

absolutely concur. Its a tough business to be in and I lost a number of friends and shipmates in peacetime ops. DACT is a fast moving experience flying in close quarters in opposite directions. Losses are very, very sad, and we always work hard to prevent them. But accidents do happen with a split second miscalculation being all that separates a routine training hop from disaster. the more you bleed in peacetime, the less you bleed in wartime. In wartime, its generally been our opponents who have bled the most.

I have a vague idea........

might be a tough sell in Congress!

I missed the nose art. I'll drink to the F-302 and Viper MkII!!!!! :fans:

you lost me there...

all one third of it that is left...........

thanks Wrench! I really enjoyed this one.

I don't doubt the battle took place. I don't doubt the pilots all reported what they thought they saw. I don't doubt the staff pukes on both sides embellished the accounts just a tad...... I suspect the real losses on both sides were probably mostly expended ordanance with some aircraft damage to a few planes. (OK, A few were probably lost on both sides.) from what I was reading at the time from sources I will not further go into - it was probably a draw. both air forces reportedly had a very high level of respect for each other afterwards. none of that, however, detracts from a great mission pack as we all get to fly both sides within the sim and see a little of how we might have done. After all, very few of these campaigns are precise. It is a simulation after all.

those are the RV trails as they come in. in wartime, they would each be followed by "a blinding flash of the obvious".......

I suspect so. Save the Watches!!!!

a white flag and a trade deal. And they'd have to contract out the ship to carry it there....

concur. corrupt and icehole are not the same thing. I was responding to the contention that anyone who thinks someone else is an icehole is merely jealous. Hardly the case. for the record - I would trust Randy Cunningham to cover my six in the air. I wouldn't, and didn't, stand in the same bar with him back at the base.

Gulp!!

ahh. That may be so. I recall something to that effect. I know that directional control was such that a carrier recovery when single engine was a last ditch emergency measure to be attempted only if there were no divert fields in range. I came back single engine twice but to ashore diverts. And me obviously riding along in the back working radars, nav and comm, not trying to fly the beast. We did have a single engine recovery at sea one day in the North Pacific with no alternates. On the approach the pilots later related that they were having trouble controlling the aircraft and maintaining the approach angle - the remaining engine was struggling and they were close to full power to make the deck. They were already sweating whether they had enough margin to either wave off or bolter and thought maybe that engine wasn't doing as well as it was supposed to. They were right. At touchdown and (luckily) the trap the shock finished that engine off, all the turbine blades $h!t out the back, the aircraft came to a stop with BOTH engines stopped and silent, and for about 5 seconds everything was dead silence as all watching and riding comprehended that we had just survived a NO ENGINE landing on a carrier deck (I was watching on the PLAT from the Ready Room). Then All H$$# broke loose.......!! In all of that fun, I don't recall what he said about directional control.......

heading for the slopes at Aspen!! you guys already know where I stand on the FRAUD of Global Warming, so I won't elaborate too much beyond pointing out the utter FAILURE of any of the Global Warming projections to actually occur and the accuracy of those predictions by competent scientists, repeated by me in several published articles, of the current cooling period.

"The simple answer to why people hate those who are able to adapt and overcome is simply jealousy. " BS!!!! Randy Cunningham was an arrogant @$$hole who couldn't get along with people. He was, obviously, an outstanding pilot, a legitimate war hero and a combat ace. So one could argue that he had reason to be an arrogant @$$. Nevertheless, not being impressed by the personal charm of an @$$ is not simple jealousy. It is disgust with the personal qualities of the individual. Randy Cunningham thoroughly ticked off his squadron mates and the fighter/AEW community at large at Miramar when I was there. There were other combat pilots with combat kills who I knew who were absolutely good guys and widely respected. There is a time and place to be an arrogant @$$. There are a lot more times and places to not be, particularly when flying with the other members of your squadron and air wing.

good point

I know from my own multi-engine qualification that the critical engine can vary from the aerodynamic one to the one that is driving critical systems. since I was only co-pilot qualed up front in the E-2, I didn't do any single-engine flying in that aircraft. hmmm. Left engine out - YES, you would stomp on the right rudder and bank slightly right to maintain directional correctional if I recall correctly. The good engine is the leg you are standing on in an engine out. Right? (I know you guys with dual centerline blowers don't have to worry about that!) I did have a couple of interesting times coming back single engine, including one nail-biter in the middle of the night over some very, very cold Sea of Japan water a very, very long way (at least it seemed that way at the time.....!) two of the squadrons I was in had a plane loose two (the advanced math majors may deduce that those were some REAL interesting events!!) one of which was a trap aboard!

we have always maintained that we could handle more tail.......

why go for second best missile fodder? The F-22 is far better in all respects.

"Power and politics corrupt. Look what it did to Randy Cunningham. To be fair, I know two pilots (retired) that flew with him. They said he was an @sshole when he was military. " yea. I knew him too. That's an accurate assessment of his lack of personality. Short analysis - good stick and a damn good, ace pilot in a tough situation, a legitimate war hero. But lacking in personal character.