Wrench

I was trying to import it into the WoV/E/I TE, got the texture set rebuilt, but for some reason the ocean isn't showing (the empty sea bits, but most of the costal tiles/transitions are. if you want, go ahead and send me the TODs. At worst, each of the city building that Stary laid out have to me moved. wrench kevin stein

the limited nations statements in the terrain inis and aircraft users list usually prevent this HOWEVER.... since it is merged, can one assume you've run the SF2E and SF2V exes, thereby creating their seperate mods folders? In essence, create 3 complete and sepreate installs. (don't forget to create shortcuts for each!) It's easier to then add the SF2v expansion ONLY to SF2V mods folder, and NATO4 to ONLY SF2E's mods folder. Leaving the SF2, alone. It'll (SF2) will still have access to EVERYTHING, as it's the main or core game -- just look at your aircraft list; everything from all 3 are available from SF2. but having them seperated makes things just a bit cleaner, and easier to work with. wrench kevin stein

Personally, I'd delete and reinstall. Better to just plane start fresh wrench kevin stein

I can delete you for you; it's now a Moderator function ONLY oth, you could have just 'edited' the last upload, by using the 'replace existing file?' button I'll get it fixed! wrench kevin stein

maricio: I'm working one expanding the targets ini, when it's done, you want the new objects and targets/types inis? (or I can wait, and make adjustment based on your changes. BTW, I removed one aerodrome in Spain -algercis?- and moved it the Gib's runway historical location. Also added docked ships to some of the ports. having a hell of a time getting the truck/Ground Attack routes working...they're plotted exactly, but never show up!! Or when you fly the mission, aren't anywhere close to where they should be. Quite odd ... as I've done this (literally!) a few hundred times on other terrrains, and they work fine! Also, reworking the WW2 Palestine map for WW1 usage (will require the 08 or SF2 Desert cat to work in FE2, however) wrench kevin stein

Did you try reading the "readme" for NATO Fighters? The entire install process is pretty well spelled out wrench kevin stein

It came with the game wrench kevin stein

Thank you and, G-d bless you all!! wrench kevin stein

having just got starting getting (back) into FE...this is QUITE appropriate wrench kevin stein

well, if you have the Dev A-Team's AA machine gunners, you WILL get shot at, and most definately get shot up. wrench kevin stein

and why would one want to do that, when the SF2 model is far superior? Stepping backwards isn't a viable option (IMNSOHO). Animations will be off, postioning on the ground is off, innumerable small and sundry faults that will defeat the purpose far simplier to ... a) wait for better templates to be relased b) create one's own (time consuming but not too hard) c) wait for Sundowner (aka Rhino Skin Diety, aka Modgod) to release his wrench kevin stein

For FE2 ONLY == Adding Destroyed Models for 3rd Party Aircraft This little tweek will add the destroyed models and effect for 'crashed/shot down' aircraft to those 3rd Party units that don't have a) their own or b) any at all First off, one needs to extact the data inis for the stock aircrft, to get the names of the various destroyed lods. You'll need Gerwin's Cat Extractor (which works with ALL versions of the 3W Games, regardless of TOS or NextGen) You can get it here: http://combatace.com/files/file/7933-catpack-archiving-utility/ Follow his instructions from the readme, and off you go. You'll be opening pretty much all the ObjectData cats (especially 002 & 003), so store the extracted files in a seperate folder somewhere's on you HD. The (only) major drawback to Gerwins extractor, is it pulls ALL files, and dosen't let you choose which one, like the 1stGen extractor from Skypat (which dosen't work with SF2/FE2) Ok, so you've got them extracted, let's look at one...this is from the AlbatrosD5_170. I've highlighted the relevant statements All the others are pretty much the same, just with different names to match which aircraft they go to. So, the real trick is find something that's a close enough match to the non-destroyed shape, with it's 'smashed to bits on the ground and bruning shape" Rule of thumb, if it's single-seated, rotary/radial, choose something close (the Nieuports could use the Camel or SPAD destroyed models), whereas a two-seater could use the RE.8 or Salmson. It's all your choice, and dosen't make too much difference, as it's just going to be laying there all broken on the ground. So, to add it, one just needs to copy/paste the two lines (as shown above) from a stick kite, to the 3rd Party one, adding them to the [AircraftData] section. Below, is for the Nieuport 17b, and an all other would be similiar, as is the procedure The only thing I have noted, is some of the effects don't seem to be working as advertised, but at least, this'll give you visual proof that the enemy aircraft is down! Good Hunting! Wrench kevin stein

One of the problems with 1stGen aircraft, especially those made BEFORE the 08 patchs. Many don't even have the full pathway name for the decals, and some don't even have the /D subfolder, required them to be moved and decals ini editatated. BUT.... for SF2/FE2, using the procedure I outline above, while created the nested folders, keeps thing nice and neat and dosen't require editing the decals ini provided the original modder or moding group had it wired together in the first place One of the many things the end user winds up doing. Unfortunately, not much of a way around it wrench kevin stein

having made several thousand decals .... it was a pretty good guess that was the problem wrench kevin stein

I didn't see it (unfortunatley!! damitall!) But I'd would like to apologive for all the hub-bub. It was becasue of what I had for dinner... sorry! wrench kevin stein

Could you be a little more specific, as to what you're trying to get??? The statements above a bit vauge.... wrench kevin stein

yes, try that. wrench kevin stein

christian: where's it at? The only one I can see is the one from 2007 http://combatace.com/files/file/5386-nieuport-17-megapack/ or am I just blind (again) wrench kevin stein

Ok, finaly broke down and got FE2...and I want to bring some of the AI's to playable (did this way back when with FE1 but dont remember what I used for what...) Knowing it's a simple ini edit (having it done it myriad times in SF/Wo*/SF2) What are the reccomened cockpits for use with the various AI (like, which for the Strutter, etc) I guess I'm gonna need to brush up on my WW1 birds! TIA! wrench kevin stein

hangar screens are nothing... the setup positioning for SF2 and FE2 are identical. Hot spots, the 'blackboard', etc. They'd be a lot easier to do than SF2 ones .. to keep it in the same FE2 stock style, just use a screenie of the parked plane. Guess I should upload my SF2 hangar screen template, at some point in the VERY near future! wrench kevin stein

the effects should be able to be imported for the other games fairly easily (oh! that word!). I"ll ask one of the effects gurus. I also noticed the smokestack effect not working either (as there's generator buildings on the Desert and Canary Islands I've been fiddling with ...and they're stacks aren't working. OTH, one might be able to export ALL the items from FE2 INTO as era specific build of SF2; whcih may defeat some of FE2 purposes (purposi?). All the required dlls seem to be there (as compared to SF2), NavalObject.dll, etc an so forth. Experimentaly, if anyone want to give this a try, create a NEW install of SF2 based off any version, merged or not, rename the exe to "SF2WW1" and run it. Then, DELETE all the aircrft and ground objects, and objectdatacats, copy/paste the SF2 ObjectDatacats, terrain cats, etc, and hope that works. otherwise, it's extract ALL the objects, folderize them and rebuild the entire install from teh bottom up. An awful lot of work, just for ships! wrench kevin stein

in the main Range ini, is there this statement: LimitedNaions=TRUE wrench kevin stein

Dont hate the haters...pity them! wrench kevin stein

OK, I can categoricly say that I cannot get anti-shipping missions to work on several imported terrains, that I KNOW were/are working in SF/Wo* and SF2 (ww2 palestine, canary islands and the stock Desert) Even with edited aircraft data inis, adding the mission statement, and edited loading inis, with known good, working movements inis, I've come to believe that TK has left out the needed coding for antiship missions. on the flip side, one can always populate ports with docked ships, and they should appear as targets for "Bomb Something" missions. One just needs to import the ships (the small cargo ship, trawlers, etc from SF/Wo*/SF2) adjust the start years, add them to the types and place via the targets ini, and will probably work. wrench kevin stein

Thanks Heck! That's a big help! btw, have any/many of the DAT WW1 birds been updated for FE2? (some may still have my 1stGen FE hangar screens!) wrench kevin stein