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File Name: MiG-17PF (SP-16) Upgrade Pak Ver.2 File Submitter: Wrench File Submitted: 5 Dec 2007 File Updated: 20 Apr 2009 File Category: Mig-17 Fresco MiG-17PF (SP-16) Fresco-D upgrade for SF/SG/ WoV/WoE/WoI and maybe SF2 & SF2-V UPDATED 4/21/09 This version is designed to completly REPLACE the mod I released some time ago..... This is an almost complete rebuild of Madcaddie's MiG-17PF (SP-16) 'Fresco-D' limited all-weather, radar equipped interceptor. This has been tweeked to use a modified UV-16 rocket pod as an air-to-air weapon, along with new-ish versions of the S-5 unguided rocket. This aircraft is also equiped with the RS-2U 'Alkali' beam-riding missile. This mod also makes ue of the 'station specific code' for the rocket pods, disallowing the use of other weapons as a saftey measure. Most of the data for this weapons tweek was worked out by Lexx_Luthor in a thread over at the 3rd Wire Message Boards, using some data I've discoverd in the past. (see "Notes" section below for more details). The Flight Model parameters themselves have been copied directly from the latest Fresco-C's, so they are the most current. There is also a completly new skin, created from a new template, made by me, based off the original 3rdW units. I've resized it up to 1024x1024, with completly redrawn rivet and panel lines. And, ONLY available in this mod, a new WoE-style Hangar Screen; the original 'artwork' type is also still included You =WILL= be using the weapons editor to add the new rockets and rocket pod, if you are adding this mod for the first time. However, there HAS been a slight change in the UV-16AA rocket pod. These changes are documented below, in the "Weapons Installation" section. == IT IS HIGHLY SUGGESTED YOU HAVE THE LATEST WEAPONS EDITOR == As always, it's reccomened you unzip this package to a temp folder, or your desktop, to gain access to the rest of this readme for the full, easy to follow install instructions. Or, in other words..... You WILL also be reading the enclosed readme, by order of the State Ministry of Instructions, which contains fully detailed, step by step procedures for installation. There is also a substantial section by Comrade "General Notes", that you will find interestering and explanitory. If not, the uranium mines of Siberia await.... Enjoy! Wrench kevin stein Click here to download this file

if you're seeing more than one pilot figure, you didn't follow the instructions in the readme. Plane and simple, as the AlkaliStations missile rail/radar nose is being used as a 'fake pilot seat'. Re=read the instructions; everything is explained there. With detailed step-by-steps. xray:, yah that's why I'm really not worried about this mod, as the 17PF is stock in SF2 ... and looks MUCH better! If spillone's on the case, there's no worries! wrench kevin stein

that might be a bit difficult; difficult at best, as the creator of the Hornet has left this world for the next one. and to crazygood ... tone it down friend. wrench kevin stein

Since I put them there, yah, lots missing. No, this is the old Iran/Irag map. Haven't decieded on which tileset to use (probably DS, with new one added as necessary) But, this is a LOOOOOONG Haul project ... 6-9 months in the future, for intended re-release. If not next year, all depending on all the other pies I've got my fingers in -KAW taking prescedence (sp?) wrench kevin stein

Might be a pathway issue in the decals ini, or mis-installed somehow. WoI, being a 1stGen game, give you 2 options: 1) Decals reside in a /D subfolder of the main skin folder of the aircraft )the bestest,easiest way I think) meaning, the path to the decals would be something like this (a bit long, but it'll illustrate what I mean): Wings Over Isreal/Objects/Aircraft/MiG-17F/EAF/D/num.tga in reality, the game engine is sort of designed to "look into" indivual aircraft folders FIRST, before wandering around and looking elsewhere. that means, in the actual decals ini, for a specific decal, the path would look like this: [Decal011] MeshName=verticalstabilizerA DecalLevel=2 DecalFacing=LEFT FilenameFormat=F-104A RJAF/Silver/D/FLet Position=-4.65,1.65 Rotation=0.0 Scale=1.0 DecalMaxLOD=3 so, defination: F-104A RJAF = aircraft folder name Silver = skin folder name D = decals sub-folder FLet = decal name you can see the descending path, from aircraft folder, to skin folder to decals folder This is a very nice, compact way of doing things; it keeps the entire add-on in one place OTH, several stock aircraft DO make use of the game-provided Objects/Decals folder. For the most part, WoI dosen't. WoE does; a lot of decals are stored in there (A-10s, Harriers, etc) You CAN use the provided /Decals folder, but you'll have to rewrite the pathway in the decals ini. Too much work for my taste. For 1stGen games, it's bestest and easist to keep it all together in the same aircraft folder. For SF2, it's a slighty different story; you HAVE to put decal in the Objects/Decals folder, but there's a cheat for that too. But as we're dealilng ONLY with 1stGen WoI, not relevant here. So...double check the pathway in the decals ini, following this format: aircraftfoldername/skinfoldername/D/decalname if it dosen't match, adjust accordingly. wrench kevin stein

WoI works just fine in Win7 ... you just need to make sure you're at the most current patch level; 10/20/2008 iirc, and that you have the most current DX9 installed Been running it with no issues in Win7 64 Ultimate. be advise, however, skypats' old cat extractor does NOT work in Win7, so to pull anything from the various and sundry cat files, you'll need to use Gerwin's Extractor. Weapons and gun editors seem to be ok, as long as compatibilit is set to Win95/98. wrench kevin stein

extract the HUDData.ini from the Flight.cat (irrc), and comment out the section for the radar display: [Display004] DisplayType=RADAR PosX=0.865 PosY=0.015 Width=0.125 Height=0.16666667 Alpha=0.60 InitTime=2.0 or, you can just change the Width and Height statements to 0 like: Width=0.0 Height=0.0 another quick fix, for the annoying 'background box' around any/all text is this one: [infoDisplay] //BackgroundImage=TextBackground.tga <---comment out tga statement BottomLeftPosition=0.01,0.985 BottomRightPosition=0.99,0.985 DisplayWidth=0.20 VerticalBorder=0.0015 HorizontalBorder=0.008 EnemyTargetColor=1.0,0.0,0.0,1.0 FriendlyTargetColor=0.0,0.0,1.0,1.0 UnknownTargetColor=1.0,1.0,0.0,1.0 WaypointColor=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 TextFile=HUDText.str NormalColor=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0 WarningColor1=1.0,1.0,0.0,1.0 WarningColor2=1.0,0.0,0.0,1.0 AGLAltStart=609.6 AGLAltWarning=152.4 r5: it works exactly the same in ALL 3W sims, including FE. And please, don't post "helpfull hints" or suggestions for fixes, if you don't have the answer. He dosen't want to relocate it, he wants it removed. wrench kevin stein

Paulo: brother, I TOTALLY feel the pain! Having just gone through it. Did the HD fail completely, or is it another problem? What I was able to do on the old XPS, was yank the HD (even though it too was 'acting out/going south'), bought a external HD, an adaptor kit that allowed me to hook up the old one via external power and USB to another computer -sort of like using it as a pass-through, and save all the data off it the external HD. I basically lost nothing, except time. If that could be an option for you, I'd take it!! It's a reall neat little kit, with adaptor for IDE, SATA, and one other; made me fell like an IT guy!!! (that knew what he was doing!). I got mine a Fryes, but I don't know anything about "large electronics super-stores" in Europe. Hope you get back up and running soon!! wrench kevin stein EDIT: redit the belly in PRU blue, seemed to be the closest

Euphrates and Tigris yes no ... beyond the 'size' of the map. Only Iran/Iraq wrench kevin stein

ok, quickie screenie. Colors are matched off the stock Hunters, FS matched numbers. Needs new serial number decals, too, methinks. Needs FM work, too. Roll rate is WAAAAAYYYY to high!! Paulo, if there's anyway you can get me what you've got, I think I can make the needed edits wrench kevin stein

my template is completed, base off the original skin, upsized to 1024 ... but I think I got the underbelly color wrong .. I used the light gray ala hunters, instead of Azure Blue. Also, can't seem to match the Green sections correctly ... the standard RAF dark green seems to OD-ish, and any other seems too green. also, the stripes will need adding ... Anyone got R/G/B valuse for to correct green? Give me a bit, and I'll post a screenie wrench kevin stein

Yeah, definately don't forget to add all my extra target areas, either from the WW2 versions or the standard, modern Range Upgrade Pak. IIRC, on the modern version, I added a runway3, with no airfield data callout for the 'Drone Launch Facililty', and at one time was experimentating with 'smokey SAMS', but never got those working. HOWEVER...I did create a static terrain object from teh SA-2 launcher (minus it's missile). One could also add working radars; SAM radar and EWRs for SEAD practice, just not linked to active SAM launchers. That's actually pretty easy the new updated tiles look GREAT!!! wrench kevin stein

Big Hard Drives RULE!!!! wrench kevin stein

that look cool! We could use more modern AFV!! btw, I moved this topic from the "PropHeads", to Mods/Skinning. wrench kevin stein

dave: most of the WW2 era AA units, in particular the bofors and 3.7 inch are in terrain paks .. look at Gepard's BoB terrain, his original Midway, it's got them (the 3.7 is called "TommyFlak"), the original EAW Euro WW2 has got them as well ... all readily avialable if one knows where to look. Bofors were used by pretty much EVERYBODY at one time or another, that were associated with 'Western Powers', well into the 1960s wrench kevin stein

some other thoughts, not campaign wise, but GrungeObjects ... given the almost TOTAL lack of Blue side Air Defenses, I'd reccomend the 3.7 inch Britsh AAA gun (Geo's), and the Bofors 40. Don't know who did the bofors, but it's in several of my WW2 terrains. A quick email/PM to Geo should secure the usege of the 3.7. Simply because them Quad 50s just don't cut it... and the maybe the KS-30 for the Red side, that was a pretty common weapon, and of cousre the M-1939 (I mean, they're in MY install....) wrench kevin stein

nice!!! Paint job is real nice!! I'd increase the rolling radius on the main gears a bit, however, so they won't sink into the tarmac. Add 0.10 to each, and see where they sit, repeat in 0.05 increments until they just have a little flattness on the bottom wrench kevin stein

Light are FUN to play with... "if everything is ready on the Dark Side of the Moon, play the five tones" wrench kevin stein

apparently the slippers came in 3 sizes .. 30, 90 and 170 gallon http://www.spitfire.dk/xlavryg.jpg don't know which 'size' this one is photo from Velveta ferry flight: 2 300lts 109 tanks, centerline slipper http://101squadron.com/101real/assets/images/Spit_pics/yugo-isr.jpg or, we could just not use them.... wrench kevin stein

For those that haven't noticed, the Dev A-Team has released their Total Conversion mod for WW2. Based on WoE, at the 08 patch level, this a complete mod with all the aircrft, vehicles/ships, weapons and a new terrain by Edward Charles has posted pictures of it both at the DAT site, and 3rd Wire in the "Screenshots and Videos" forum. Check it out ... look pretty damn good to me!! (and we get 08 level FMs too!!!) wrench kevin stein

my personal "favorite" are the quad-20s, both the emplaced and the new Whirlwinds ... nasty little bastards!! wrench kevin stein

JimB: have you set, in Options, GrouundObjects = Unlimited?? I've noticed parked german planes, but I think those are the old 'generic' statics (well, individual planes) left over from all the other WW2 Terrains. I think due to how the airfields are set up (those pit8s fer instance) might interfere with game=generated parked statics. Haven't spent too much time actually LOOKING at the airfields, mostly flying the various planes to see what they look like. wrench kevin stein edit: quck look at the targets ini, does NOT show the old statics being used; so they are game-generated via which ever airfield ini is being used. Yes,you CAN create more. Edit the Russia_airfiled***.ini, scroll down until you see the ParkingChance= line, increas to whatever your system can manage. For the GermanyCE mod, extract the named airfield inis, and adjust to taste

dooouhh! Sorry, was a little befuddled (well, more than usual) yesturday! brain, you could see the green and brown and blue???? I couldn't.... and really wanted to fix them. Oh, well! wrench kevin stein

dave, as per our phone conversation...fits damn near perfectly!! also just noticed, these are equiped with the "Abukir" (sp?) type filters! wrench kevin stein

Works in SF2I as well, as that's where I was testing it! Now, we just need the natual metal skin and blue/tan camo for 50s and 60s wrench kevin stein