Wrench

Yes; same way we did ANW before I converted it to 4 seasonss, how I created the "Empty Desert" (ie: desert2) and how Piecemeal created the Desert3.... 1) create new folder, call it "IsraelME2) 2) install all the new bits. 3) In this new folder, Rename IsrealME.INI to IsrealME2.INI 4) rename TFD and HFD (if supplied -if not, extract from IsrealMe.cat and place in new terrain folder) to IsrealME2.TFD and IsrealME2.HFD 5) create new cat pointer line in IsrealME2.INI, pointing the the IsealME.cat... CatFile=..\IsrealME\IsraelME.CAT If there's another step, I disrmember it. But why you'd want to go through all this trouble....well.... In SF2, since this would go into the /Terrains sub-folder of the Mods folder, removing it is a simple 'delete folder' click. In WoI, a simple copy/paste/rename of the stock IsraelME folder should do it. Or, as this looks like tile bmp/tga/and tods, simple removing them should do it to restore to 'stock'. (oh forgot -- and new inis, too) wrench kevin stein

So... that HM trick actually works for non-sea tiles???? Excellent ... gonna have to make some adjustments on the Isreal2 retile (as I removed them...) How does this effect the IME targets enhancement pack I did a coupla years ago? (meaning: placement of target areas that might conflict with trees/buildings/cows/chickens/camels/etc) Still, I notice the airfields aren't in a cleared zone.... damnitall i want my new machine!!!! (do we have a crying smilie??) wrench kevin stein

Animals!!!! That is WILD!!! Looks like something from the anime "Steamboy"!!! Is 3W moving into SteamPunk??? Coooooolll!! wrench kevin stein

I have JUST the painting for use as a loading screen for that!!! Yes, SAFELY backed up!!! (as is/was all my av-art!) wrench kevin stein

Nice one SB!!! BTW, the stars on the wing are too large, and need to be further out towards the wingtip. Czech out the S-199 "Stand In" I did; it should be here at CA and also my site (minus Wolf's 109G10 lod). Also, missing the "Dalet" serial numbers -also in my Mule stand in pack So, like where the hell they been hiding this????? Maybe waiting for decent FM ala the Suez expansion pak to base on?? wrench kevin stein

I would think so, more for campaign building. I'm stil not totally clear on exactly how the LimitedNations=TRUE statement works for single missions (altough the IsrealME map is a real good guide...) I DO know, there must be at least one Friendly nations listed in the terrain's Nations ini (interesting to not, SF2 does NOT use that .. it uses the limited nations statement, and the games main nations ini, as I think WoV's VietnamSEA does as well) wrench kevin stein

Statos: Sorry, brother. I could show you via screenies, but I'm not sure this old standby machine will work the TE so good. I guess I'll test it after a while today.... (EDIT: I guess I do work!!) BUT.... I can tell you, that if you're just adding them to the Existing tiles, that's pretty easy. With the TE open, and the Desert terrain (HFD) loaded, load the Desert texture list. YOu should see the map, with all the tiles laid out. Then, on the tool bar at the top ... Texture List ... it'll open a drop down. "Edit Texture Map List". That'll open the full listing, with all the tiles listed as they appear in the texturelist ini. Scroll until you find the one you want, click on it, and it'll open a popuu window "Texture Map Dialog". Over in the lower right corner, you'll see "Terrain Objects". This is where you activate the buildings and trees that are in the TOD files. Then, in the screenie below, yo can see the arrow ponint to "Place Object", that'll take you to the next screen, when you physically place the trees and buildings. THAT screen is the one I showed in the other Thread. But, if you're ONLY just replacing the desert tiles with your new 'scrub' ones, you'll have to take those bmps, and drop them into the TE with the same names as the existing 2 desert tiles. Then, you can go to into the Texture Map Dialog, and add the trees where they'd fit on the new scrub tiles Better yet, would be to ADD them to the texturelist, keeping the Desert1 and Desert2 tiles -which I reccomend for the more harsh and arid regions), and them hand place the NEW scrub tiles in the border zones between the desert2farm. Unfortunately, this means you'll HAVE to create the 3 new transition tiles for Scrub2Farm25, Scrub2Farm50 and Scrub2Farm75. Then, you'll have to create even MORE tiles for the transition from scrub to desert ... Scrub2Desert25, Scrub2Desert50 and Scrub2Desert75. So, you can see it's just not as simple as you're thinking it is. Even if you replace the 2 desert tiles with you're new scrub, you must create new transitons for the various regions -- farm to desert, desert to city, desert to sea, desert to mountain, etc. Otherwise, you get the effect of 'tiling' as seen in your screenshot in the other Forum Thread. Again creating 1 tile means you have to create 4 tiles to match .. the main (center square), plus the edges or transition tiles that surround it. In essence, you're completly Rebuilding the Desert terrain, so in the end you'll have a new data ini (with the new tile listings), and 2 completly new TFD and HFD files. These will totally replace the existing units in the Desert.cat. wrench kevin stein

Had a thought about this the other day (whilst down with nothing to do...) You are probably going to run into the same problems as the India terrain ... both Egypt and Lybia are classed as ENEMY nations in the game's Nations.ini. Now, I'm not exactly sure how this works, but you might be able to create Egypt as FRIENDLY in the terrain's nations ini, using the limited nations statement, and adding something like the following: FriendlyNation001=Egypt EnemyNation001=Lybia but I've not clue if that'll even work (08 or SF2) wrench kevin stein

Those are real similiar to the 'scurb' tiles we're using on the Indo-Pak terrain. The 'splotchyness' has to be MUCH more random ... use the clone stamp tool, and run them RIGHT to the edges. You will still probably get the occasional square edges, but that can only be fixed in the TE by rotating the tile's facing (0,180,270,90). The real bitch of tileing, is getting the edges to match. Open the various Farm tile in you image progaram, and slide them next to/on top/bottom of each other, and you'll see how they line up. It's just a gigantic jigsaw puzzle. wrench kevin stein

Look in the SF/Wo* Knowlege Base .... there's a WHOLE section on editing weapons loadouts that some kindhearted soul started (albeit for the ancient BunyPak), but the modifications to the data and loadout inis are usefull right across the board for 1st and 2nd Gen series. Just double check the names of the missiles/pods to be installated. In particular, I draw you attention to page 5, wherein the F-4C/D/E loadouts are desribed, with the necessary tweeks to place the jammer pod in it's correct location in the left front Sparrow bay. The link below should, hopefully, go to that page: Linky --> http://forum.combatace.com/topic/18346-how-to-edit-loadouts-for-weapons-packs-bunyappak/page__st__80 Mind you, for SF2 (or any version of the games actually), you'll STILL need to extract the data and loadout inis for the required aircraft. Unfortualy, I can't remember which ObjectData cat they're in.... wrench kevin stein

don't forget, you can have SEPERATE environmentalsystem.ini in Terrain folders too. Tailored to each specific latatude (DBS is a good example). YOu just need the entry in the terrain's main ini (don't have one handy, otherwise...) wrench kevin stein

AND... if I don't like it, I'm certainly jumping into the car, Driving ALL the frakking way to Ohio to your house, backing my butt up to you front door, and farting!!! Then, heading home. Yup, got the old standby 2.6 desktop that Pat (mrs wrench) had out at her house -actualy was her mom's house, but it's her's since MILs passing 3 years ago-, and got it up and running with a semi-decent connection (thanks to Fubars help and $15 dollar ethernet-to-usb adaptor, as the ethernet port is NFG) don't think I can game, or work on the game projects, but at least I'm back on the net and here (also for my "other activities") wrench kevin stein

OH YES!!! Monty, you totally ROCK!!! The IDF/AF decals from my 'stand in' can be easily flipped over for use on this one!! Be a great addition to WoI/SF2I!!! wrench kevin stein (yes, back up and running on an old standby machine until the new XPS 9000 arrives)

posting from my wife's office ... been here ALL frakking day, backing up the HD (yanked from the machine, running through one of their laptops to a NEW 1TB external) so, I don't think I'm going to loose much of anyhthing but lots and lots of time in rebuilding the games/mods/etc when the new machine arrives in about 7 -10 days. Nice new XPS 9000. I think I"ll call it 'HAL' so, i'm probably not gonna be around much, due to NOT having a machine to hookup to the net. Expect LOTS of Win7 qeustions when I'm up and runningj .... thank for all the support my brothers (and sisters, if any out there). Be back soon!! wrench kevin stein

...and I recall there are some manufacurers to stay away from (like internal HDs, too) I just can't remember if its Western Digital or Seagate or who ever!!! Some reccomendations, please!! I'm looking for something in the 250-1tb range, price around 100-150 dollars TIA! wrench kevin stein

Well, the quick and dirty way would be just to change the existing runways/airfields. Unfortunately, retiling/retargeting isn't something I can get into for the forseeable (9-12 month) future. STill got Korea, and just started redoing Isreal 2 to make some fixes in tiling, and some targets clean up (for both WoI and SF2I), what with the Suez Expansion due out any week now....But it WOULD be nice to add Helwan, Al Manusra, etc. BTW, don't forget The Wall on that map is juuuuusssst east of Port Said, thereby eliminated the need for Isreali involvement. Then there's Indi-Pakistan, Panama, WW2 Euro (retarget and minimal retile)...and 4 or 5 others..... wrench kevin stein

My apologies ... sometimes I forget about the english-as-a-second (or third!) language. You can EDIT the tiles in any image manuipulation program -- that's the easy part. If you want to only REPLACE the existing stock ones with repaints; just repaint and drop into the terrain folder. If you want to ADD anything NEW to a terrain (new TODS for buildings and trees) new tiles, dry river beds, etc, that can ONLY be done in the TE, as it has to compile a new TFD file, which stores the information as to what tile goes where. If fiddling with mountains, valleys, etc, then it needs to compile a new HFD, which stores all the height field data (get it -- HFD!!<grin>) the praire is called "grass field" .. for some reason I took a cheaters way out. to change pre-existing trees, all you need to do is create the tga for the bush/tree/forest/whatever, and edit the terrains' data in to point to that tga....like so [Texture025] Filename=mountain1.BMP HasWater=0 Color=0.718371,0.605424,0.451735 SolidObjectTexture= AlphaObjectTexture=ter_newtrees1.TGA BUT ... without a NEW TOD, placing the trees when wanted, you'll be stuck with the stock placements (which be sorta sparse) wrench kevin stein

EDIT: hm.... looks like some retiling would be in order too, to add the 'historic' EAF airfields ala the Isreal 2 map (all them bases in the Nile Delta region). AGain, not a real big deal; just finding the proper coordinates would be the problem, and adding the various nearby cities and such. As the terrain uses the stock Desret textures, + the 'cityport2', that shouldn't pose any problems, either Just is case anyone is wondering .... when I do a WW2-ish terrain, I usually take into consideration WHAT would it take to bring it forward into more modern times. It kinda saves on brainwork....although sometimes the research is killer!! below are the entries for the TextureListDesert.ini for the cityport2 tile, for anyone who wants... first listing: Filename069=CityPort2.bmp later entry: [CityPort2.bmp] TextureType=1 DetailType=2 HeightMapScale=2.000000 TransitionType=2 TransitionTo=4 3WayTransitionTo=0 RiverType=0 RandomFactor=100 ExclusionRegion=0 ExcludeMaxX=0 ExcludeMinX=0 ExcludeMaxY=0 ExcludeMinY=0 LimitRotation=0 Allow0deg=0 Allow90deg=0 Allow180deg=0 Allow270deg=0 SolidObjectTexture=terobject_buildings1.bmp AlphaObjectTexture=terobject_trees1.bmp wrench kevin stein

Cocas: I don't suppose we could talk you into a proper Avia S-199??? What with the imment release of the Suez Expansion for SF2:I and WoI (to follow SF2 later). As TK is giving us Sptifires..... the only REAL problem I forsee is a proper FM for it.... The Gladiator looks GREAT!!! Have to dig out my Cull book on Malta, as it has all the serial numbers for the Hurri and Glads used there wrench kevin stein

Modernizing the NorthAfrica terrain would probably take about 1-2 days work; all you really need to do is remove my repainted runway skins, and swap out some of the Runway3s for either Runway2 or Runway1 (bigger for jets). Benghazi should have plenty of room for a Runway4 for their Badgers; same for Cario and Alex. Then, just do the rename thingy to more modern names (ie: remove "Landing Ground" and "Field") The docked ships/convoy stations, vehicles at the depots/army bases are just as easily swapped out for more modern stuff. Of course, SAM sites would need adding, but again, the only hard part is locating them (ie: copy/paste pre-existing target areas and populating with the necessary launchers, radars and whatnots). IIRC, I used the generic "AAA" for guns. If networked AAA guns are being used, you'll have to co-locate Firecans in the general vicinity of your AAA batteries. Swapping out the "3RFlag", "IT2Flg", etc for LYFlag and EGFlag would also be necessary. One could even get Greece into the action, what with the Athens INt'l existing; although the airfields on Crete would be problematic ... as they're the small Runway3 (and I don't think anything else would fit!!) One can change Crete's 'status' to NEUTRAL, and it'll be ignored. (no insult meant to Cretens, of course!) Nope, not hard to do at all. wrench kevin stein

Yes, I do it ALL the time. what kinda question is that?? Use Gerwin's extractor, pull apart the Desert.cat, convert the tgas (sea/sea-land transitions) to bmp, use the ancient Desert/SF terrain editor, drop the TFD/HFD into it and go. btw, ALL the tiles on ALL the terrains between 1stGen and NextGEns are 100% identical. So it makes absolutely NO difference where the tiles come from. So you can use Skypat's extractor on the SF desert cat, and do the same thing (ie: extract all, and just toss out everything but the terrrain inis and tiles)BTW: double check the inis, to make sure they're in ANSI, not unicode, as the TE only reads ANSI. again, easily added via the Terrain Editor; mind you, there ARE some tiles blatently missing (farmriverend.tga, desertrivermouths, in both right, left and center but those are also readily available if one knows where to look) would require manipulation of the height field. IE: exporting the height field as bitmap, importing to Photoshop or Gimp, and 'adjusting the surrounding height' to raise or lower it slightly to creat wadis or other dry drainage features (btw- a 1 pixel brush WILL create a gully/canyon 3-5 km across -- and that's the smallest possible - look on Fighter Bowl terrain I did -- the river vally north of the Saknuseum Sea was create EXACTLY that way, and is HUGE!! Grand Canyon/Valles Marinaris size) You also have to be REAL careful with the Desert1 and Desert2 tiles ... as 99.9% of the airbases SIT on those tiles, hence, they're not having any vegatation. One could, however, create a 'clone' of the Desret1.bmp, and call it .... oh, let's see.... "DesertAB.bmp" (which means doing a 'save as...' for the original tile, so's you don't loose it), then add it to the texturelist ini, and hand place it under the various airbase; of course, you'd need the Desert_Cities.lst for that too ... iirc, it comes with the TE; if not, they're not too difficult to recreate. I take you haven't see the America SouthWest map (aka: ASW). "Plains" tiles are all over that map. yup, like Fubs said ... been there done that 1000million times (if fact I was just doing it yesturday). You'd use 'tree2', as that's the shorter one. All done in the TE (see screenie below -- black objects are buildings, white objects are trees) and yes, that's a new-build, custom tile. wrench kevin stein

what he said.... wrench kevin stein

Happy Birthday!!! wrench kevin stein

Why not just use the cockpit (providing you're doing a VERY late model type), cockpit ini and avionics ini from the HAF F-4E AUP I released a coupla years ago? It uses the F-15 HUD tgas, the EJ-Kai cockpit (more glass-like) and all sorts of stuff I can't remember now....(btw, it's for 1st Gens at 08 level) It's a whole aircraft pak, AND has Sundowner skins (don't know if those'll work in SF2 yet ... but I'm sure Ant has that well in hand, knowing his passion for Rhinos....). But transfering the cockpit/cockpit bits and the inis over should be a fairly simple job wrench kevin stein

StationSpecificCode works in WoE/WoV/SF/SFG/WoI post-08 patch with no real problems. You DO have to add the lines to the aircraft's dataini (look at the stock Mig-23 -- it uses it) You can also do another trick for each/any particular station: NotAllowedWeapon= but you have to list EACH one you don't want to load (check out the Yak-25 Flashlight in my Yak Upgrade Pak) That'll prevent certain types from loading forever! Example, from the Flashlight: and OnlyAllowedWeapon= both work in 06/08; haven't tested in in SF2 yet, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work, as the basic core game engine is pretty much the same wrench kevin stein