Wrench

With absolutely NO relation to the African or English swallow (other then not liking them very much) This angry bird is usually seen swooping down on vehicles, dropping little 'presents', or doing other disgusting things to ships, buildings, and large bombers. It should be noted, this is a BETA, as there are a few little glitches on the physical model. When time presents itself, our Illustrious Model Maker may fix the few small errors. Hopefully, I'll get the readmes finished (if I can ever get away from 'fixing' all the Paki, Indian and Chinese Fishbeds -- don't ask!!), and have it ready for upload this weekend. Wrench kevin stein

I miss the Quetalcoaltus and Atomic Moth from FA..... Wrench Kevin Stein

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When I got this machine in Dec 04, when I loaded XvT and XWA, I just used the 'compatabiility' thingy...think I set it Win98. haven't flown either in a while...guess I'll have to test and make sure they're still working! What's good about XvT, is you don't have to worry about time lines fouling. As for the mission sets, they're other folks work from the DOS series (XW, TF), I just did the conversion/editing to make the playable in XvT. Some of them need the Draconis Ship Patch, especially the ones converted from TF. Never could get the dos batch file to work in XP; had to use an old 98 machine to run it, then transfer the ENTIRE game over to the new machine (that was fun ...NOT!!!) Not sure about copywrites; for personal site like me don't seem to be a problem. For for a big one like this...well, most of the missions sets have original dates from 1994 and up! Take a browse over there, and let me know if you want any of them uploaded. Some are pretty good (if I say so myself; after major editing!!) One of the best is "Battle in the Outer Rim Territorties". Orignially, it replaced the 5 campaigns in XW. Another major rebuild, of good missions to star, is "Headhunter TOD". That one, historically, is one of the first sets EVER built for XW -- in the Dark Days of DOS. I like it, what can I say???? Wrench Kevin Stein

Ok, lets take a little break from all the MiGs and their cousins (cause I sure could use one!), and have a glance at the Royal Navy and Royal Air Focce. We'll start it off with the Hawker Seahawk series (by bunyap21) All loads are identical, for the following models: Seahawk FB.3 Seahawk FB.4 Seahawk FB.5 Seahawk FGA.4 Seahawk FGA.6 The other variants, Mk.100, Mk.101 (both MF, InAF and Netherlands Navy) will be covered seperately, as there's a little weapons tweek needed. I'll only be listing one set of data and loads, as they use all the same hardpoints. Simply put, we're switching over the UK weapons. data ini: [LeftFuelStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.862,0.067,-0.571 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftFuelPylon PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank_SeaHawk_Early [RightFuelStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.862,0.067,-0.571 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightFuelPylon PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank_SeaHawk_Early [LeftBombStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.393,0.09,-0.418 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftBombPylon1 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightBombStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.393,0.09,-0.418 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightBombPylon1 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftBombStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.86,0.093,-0.469 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftBombPylon2 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightBombStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.86,0.093,-0.469 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightBombPylon2 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftRocketStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.531,-0.041,-0.21 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftRocketPylon1 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightRocketStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.531,-0.041,-0.21 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightRocketPylon1 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftRocketStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.168,-0.018,-0.236 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftRocketPylon2 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightRocketStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.168,-0.018,-0.236 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightRocketPylon2 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftRocketStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=11 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.789,0.002,-0.266 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftRocketPylon3 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightRocketStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=12 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.789,0.002,-0.266 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightRocketPylon3 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftRocketStation4] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=13 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.389,0.025,-0.302 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftRocketPylon4 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightRocketStation4] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.389,0.025,-0.302 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightRocketPylon4 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftRocketStation5] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.987,0.058,-0.336 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=LeftRocketPylon5 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightRocketStation5] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=16 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.987,0.058,-0.336 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1020.6 AllowedWeaponClass=RCKT,RP AttachmentType=UK ModelNodeName=RightRocketPylon5 PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 loadout ini: [AirToAir] [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Mk5_500 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[10].Quantity=1 [FAC] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[15].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=60lb-rocket Loadout[16].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank_SeaHawk_Early Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Wrench Kevin Stein

InAF MiG-23MF Rakshak (by Rafael, howling1, ghostrider883, etal) Hopefully, you've added the new HAL dual IRM racks as seen above, as you're gonna need them again in this puppy data ini: [LeftGloveStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.330,0.50,-0.12 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=520.0 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,IRM,FT,GP AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=AAM_GlovePylon_Left PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank600_Su7 [RightGloveStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.330,0.50,-0.12 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=520.0 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,IRM,FT,GP AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=AAM_GlovePylon_Right PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank600_Su7 [LeftFuselageStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.40,0.55,-1.175 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=260.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,2IR AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=AAM_Pylon_Left PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightFuselageStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.40,0.55,-1.175 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=260.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,2IR AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=AAM_Pylon_Right PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 [CenterFuselageStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.00,-0.25,-1.1 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=260.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,GP,RCN AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET ModelNodeName=CenterPylon PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank600_Su7 loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-6R Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-6R Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[03].Quantity=2 Loadout[03].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[04].Quantity=2 Loadout[04].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank600_Su7 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-6R Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-6R Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[03].Quantity=2 Loadout[03].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[04].Quantity=2 Loadout[04].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank600_Su7 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank600_Su7 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank600_Su7 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[03].Quantity=2 Loadout[03].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[04].Quantity=2 Loadout[04].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[05].WeaponType=RecPod_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Wrench Kevin Stein

We're assuming no ammo for the guns, no R4Ms, no bombs, half fuel??? Well, I know for a fact I can achieve 800 kph, straight down. Once. Maybe I shold change the name to "Pterribledactl"??? Wrench Kevin Stein

I was actually thinking more of 'stand off' ranges...that Flogger's gonna put an R-40 right up the wazzoo before you even know he's there!!! Turning duel, I'll take the 'stang! (or any of them!) I'd forgotten the Jug's had them too. Don't forget the SPAD that got the Mig-17 with A-G rocket!!! Reminds me of an old Martin Caiden sci-fi story; the greatest fighter pilot that ever lived died, and goes to Hell. The Devil challenges him to 3 dogfights; if he wins, he gets to return to Earth, and live in any time of his choosing. One of the fights he takes an I-16 agianst the Devil's(something fast and cool). Thrashes him totally! And so on for the other encounters. Which he wins, hands down. The Devil makes good on his bargin, and returns him to earth in the later 21st Century, where he fly aero-space fighters (endo-exo atmospheric) against invading aliens. That just happen to have horns and a pointed tail!! Wrench Kevin Stein

Important Notice for Chinese, Indian and Pakistani Fishbed Variants While running through these aircraft, and there are PLENTY!, I've discovered a few things Using the latest patched versions of SF or WoE (and assuming WoV as well), there are serious issues with the aircraft lod files. Many of you have run into this already, with missing pilots, misplaced afterburner emmitters and decals. 'Wonky' landing gear wheels (they look like used shopping carts!!), and a host of smaller problems. Using the latest patched versions is what's causing the problems. So far, these are the aircraft I've found to be affected, from Madcaddie's "More MiGs Paks", and howling1's F/J-7 and InAF Paks (and possible other folks whose names I can't find): F-7A Export F-7BS F-7MP Airbolt F-7MP Airbolt GFS F-7P Skybolt F-7P Skybolt GFS J-7 III (J-7C) J-7 III ML J-7D J-7E Type 74 Type 76 Type 77 Type 95 Type 96 MiG-21 Bison MiG-21 Lancer What it comes down to, is if you use the latest lod, you'll get all kinds of weirdness. The only sure cures are: a) rebuild the aircraft from scratch -- not a truely viable option, given the time needed. Or; b) use lods from an earlier, unpatched version. Now, let me explain that last statement... These aircraft are ALL pre-Patch 4, and most likely, pre-Patch 3. If you're lucky (or just plain lazy), like I've been on a few of my installs, and NOT patched them up to current standards (say, like the Iran/Iraq set, or possibly DBS), you can use the Cat Extractor to 'acquire' the necessary files. Then you just drop them into the folders of the aircraft requiring The Fix. By doing this, you change nothing in any of the inis, but in a sense 'restore' the model to it's original state. If you have this option available, I can't stress this enough --- USE IT!!! Now, to find out just exactly what parts are needs, we can consult our built-in catalogue, the aircraft's main ini. These list all needed bits; what inis describe the cockpit files, loadouts, aerodynamics. Most importantly, for us right now, they list the various lods and shd (shadow) files needed for the physical aircraft to appear in-game. In the example below, we're looking at the Type 74: (Note: this is using the stock, 3rd Wire lods -- NOT those from the Mirage Factory's superb release) You can see I've highlighted the LODs with blue, and the SHD in green. Again, it's a simple matter to extract them, and CUT/PASTE, or MOVE to the relevant aircraft folder. Do not leave them in the /objects folder where they 'arrive' after extraction...they need to be IN the aircraft's folder for the game engine to see them. Simply put, the engine "looks" into folders first before drawing what it needs from the cat files. And, yes you need to use ALL the listed lods, or you risk more weirdness. Simply put, all the above listed aircraft, expecially the more modern ones, need some work. I've fiddled with the Bison, and gotten it pretty damn close, given the fact we don't have a really good "late model" cockpit for a single engined Red Air bird by useing and tweeking the A-4F's. Even though it's not accurate, it's a 'best, closest, fit' given it's radar screen has buttons around it, and it has a modern-ish RWR display. For the older versions, the Fishbed pit that's available here at CA is 99.9% what's needed. If anyone has any questions, comments, needs more help, please feel free to post on the borads, email or PM me here. The best fix is to upload completed aircraft, with the 'backdated' lods, but I feel that might not be allowed. Wrench Kevin Stein

InAF Type 96 Fishbed J (mods by howling1 & co.) If you've already added the new HAL AP-62s, you should have no problems, as they are used on this version as well data ini: [LeftOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.68,-1.61,-0.42 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,FT,2IR AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_Outer_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_Outer_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 FuelTankName=Tank490_MiG21 [RightOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.68,-1.61,-0.42 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,FT,2IR AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_Outer_R PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_Outer_R LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 FuelTankName=Tank490_MiG21 [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.01,-0.7,-0.38 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.01,-0.7,-0.38 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_R PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_R LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,-0.23,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,FT,RCN AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET ModelNodeName=Centerline_Pylon PylonMass=40 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank490_MiG21 loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[01].Quantity=2 Loadout[01].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[02].Quantity=2 Loadout[02].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType= Loadout[05].Quantity=0 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[01].Quantity=2 Loadout[01].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[02].Quantity=2 Loadout[02].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=RecPod_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 You'll notice the loads are identical. I've added "SOVIET" to the centerline station ONLY, to try to get the Fishbed Recon Pod to load. If it dosen't, well, it's only there for looks anyway Wrench Kevin Stein

InAF Type 95 Fishbed L (mods by howling1 & com.) Now, since this is a later model, and can use a dual IRM rack on the outboard pylons, we're going to have to create one, since for some reason, the stock Soviet APU-62's don't load. Add to weaponsdata ini via you text editor of choice; where **** is the next number in sequence: [WeaponData****] TypeName=HAL APU-62L FullName=HAL APU-62-2L dual IR ModelName=apu-62L Mass=50.000000 Diameter=0.160000 Length=2.530000 AttachmentType=WP NationName=INDIA StartYear=1970 EndYear=2020 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=12 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=6 WeaponsRackType=2IR NumWeapons=2 LoadLimit=50.000000 LengthLimit=2.500000 MaxFuelAmount=0.000000 Attachment01Position=0.000000,0.295000,-0.200000 Attachment01Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Attachment02Position=-0.160000,0.295000,0.050000 Attachment02Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 [WeaponData****] TypeName=HAL APU-62R FullName=HAL APU-62-2R dual IR ModelName=apu-62R Mass=50.000000 Diameter=0.160000 Length=2.530000 AttachmentType=WP NationName=INDIA StartYear=1970 EndYear=2020 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=12 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=6 WeaponsRackType=2IR NumWeapons=2 LoadLimit=50.000000 LengthLimit=2.500000 MaxFuelAmount=0.000000 Attachment01Position=0.000000,0.295000,-0.200000 Attachment01Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Attachment02Position=-0.160000,0.295000,0.050000 Attachment02Angle=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000 Save and close. Now, do the usual 'weapons editor ini dance' we're so familiar with, and you've got yourself some new Duarl IRM rack for the Indian Air Force. I'm sure these will come in handy for other aircraft of their's as well :) data ini: [LeftOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.68,-2.17,-0.42 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,SAHM,IRM,FT,2IR AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_Outer_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_Outer_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 FuelTankName=Tank490_MiG21 [RightOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.68,-2.17,-0.42 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,SAHM,IRM,FT,2IR AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_Outer_R PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_Outer_R LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 FuelTankName=Tank490_MiG21 [LeftWingStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.01,-1.26,-0.38 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,GP,SAHM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [RightWingStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.01,-1.26,-0.38 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,GP,SAHM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_R PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_R LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,-0.23,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,FT,RCN AttachmentType=WP,SOVIET ModelNodeName=Centerline_Pylon PylonMass=40 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank490_MiG21 loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[01].Quantity=2 Loadout[01].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[02].Quantity=2 Loadout[02].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType= Loadout[05].Quantity=0 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[01].Quantity=2 Loadout[01].RackType=HAL APU-62L Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-8 Loadout[02].Quantity=2 Loadout[02].RackType=HAL APU-62R Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL AA-2D Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=RecPod_MiG21 Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Wrench Kevin Stein

We were talking about bombs????? Wrench kevin stein

What's really funny is, I'm actually thinking of taking a P-38J, and adding the Vark's "dump & burn" effect to it....just for s*&ts and grins!! Let's see Lou Gossett do better than me!!!! Wrench kevin stein

I always stuck to the 'flight' simulators...I just like the idea of being behind the controls of a X-Wing or TIE. As for missions, there's like 500-700 mission files, in many sets, converted from the old DOS XW or TF for use with XvT on my site. Got three mission sets for XWA that I've never uploaded. Mostly XWA upgrades of the XvT sets. Guess I'll have to upload them... Wrench Kevin Stein

OK students, school is in session...sit down, shut up and listen.... even the earliest aim-9 missile was very effective on every early russian jet. No, I have to repeat Dave's suggestion above. On the average, 30% is/was considered good. I've been a mile and half to two miles, dead astern, of a NON MANUVERING aircraft, and had 9B go right over his head - with perfect tone. imagine a prop fighter engaging an su-22 or a mig 23 The terms "dog meat", "dead meat" and "toast" come to mind right off. Plus a few choice other I won't use on a family site. if it were not for those pesky sam sites. Instructions for dealing with SAMs in a non RWR aircraft: place head between legs, and kiss a$$ goodbye Again, some research on your part is called for ... toward the end of 44/early 45, Mustangs and Lightnings were equiped with a rear warning radar reciever, similiar to the 'Boozer' used on RAF Mosquitos. It gave incidation via flashing lights that someone was closing on their tail. Not an RWR in the modern sense, more like a proximity warning. We can't actually simulate that, but creating an audio RWR is no problem. question, is there any way that i could adjust the guns so that the bullets go parallel instead of crossing at a certain distance? It's called boresighting ... and {sigh} the lack of research shows again... ww2 aircraft had their guns set to cross at a certain distance. In fact (and a little research will prove this out), many aircraft had each PAIR of guns boresighted to differing distances. ie: for instance, 400 yards for outboards, 300 yards for center, 200 yards for inner. But to answer the question, it's called "AimAngles", and yes they are adjustable. can a heetseeker acquire a mustang? Not really; not enough heat signature from piston engines...even a 9L or possibly 9X would have difficulty. Trust me, I've already been there and done that! If you want missiles, stay with the jets. Leave the WW2 stuff as it is ... they're damn near perfect for what their mission is. {Angry Rant mode, ON} @$%&* ()%{_@_%$@!(_) }{ -- I edited myself before typing. I was gonna loose it, and instead took a deep breath and didn't. {Angry Rant mode, OFF} My first, and foremost, MOST IMPORTANT statement here is: get out of the cockpit, and look the stuff up. There's hundreds of thousands of pages on the Web with the historical background you seek. Even the King of What If... (meself) draws the line occasionally. Wrench Kevin Stein

Great idea!!! Just like the 'List of Ground Objects' and such!! Very cool! I'll have to update your start, as you can see I been busy adding more stuff. Having a hell of time with the InAF Type 95, 96 and 21 Bison. Many lod and skin problems...to say nothing of the avionics and missing weapons. Had to create HAL built copies of the APU-62s for them, and all kinds of other stuff. These birds need almost total rebuilds...the Bison just seem too fast; need in FM guru on that one. Been trying to figure out what to use for the KAB-500 EOGB (HAL built??) for the Bison and their 27's ... this would be needed for the standard Sov stuff, too. Maybe just use the stock FAB500 body, and adjust accordingly.... an new model would be best,with the 'eyeball' in front Wrench Kevin Stein lost and confused..... again!

InAF Type 77 Fishbed-E (mods by howling1 & co.) data ini: [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.10,-1.14,-0.39 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,SAHM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.10,-1.14,-0.39 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,SAHM loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Wrench kevin stein

InAF Type 76 Fishbed-D (mods by howling1 & co.) A gunless bird, with no provision for mounting the GP-9 on the centerline data ini: [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.01,-1.26,-0.38 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_L PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_L LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.01,-1.26,-0.38 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.5 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon_R PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail_R LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL AA-2 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Wrench Kevin Stein

Indian Air Force Type 74 Fishbed C (model by 3rdW, mods by howling1) NOTE: it is critically important that you use the lods supplied with this kit!! All the InAF Fishbeds are built on models that are Pre-Patch4, and if you use the later lods, you're going to run into a boatload of problems. Things will not line up, stuff will be mounted funny, and you'll have all kinds of visual anomolies by mixing and matching lods. This is especially important in the Type 95 & 96 (which, unfortunately, don't have the lods in the package. I'll cover their issues when I get posting them) All the Indian MiG's came with cockpit files of various types; it's my suggestion that you replace them with Magoo's superb Fishbed cockpit, available here at CA. This is the original Fishbed that India recieved; it is a gunless, missile-less bird. The InAF had the Soviets create the GP-9 gunpod for this aircraft. You'll be doing an addition to the Weaponsdata.ini, so let's get started with that.... copy/paste this into your weaponsdata ini, where **** is the next number in sequence: [WeaponData****] TypeName=IAF 23mm GP FullName=IAF 23mm Gunpod ModelName=upk-23-250 Mass=350.000000 Diameter=0.330000 Length=3.078000 AttachmentType=WP NationName=INDIA StartYear=1962 EndYear=1969 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=1 Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear=0 ExportAvailability=0 WeaponDataType=3 GunTypeName=23MM_GSH23 MaxRounds=250 MuzzlePosition=0.000000,1.675000,0.056000 LightPosition=0.000000,1.685000,0.056000 AimDirection=0.000000,1.000000,-0.025000 EjectShells=1 EjectPosition=0.000000,0.300000,-0.300000 EjectVelocity=0.000000,0.000000,-2.000000 You know the drill by now...do the standard 'adding a weapon ini dance', and you're good to go data ini: [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.207,-1.165,-0.347 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon01 PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail01 LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 FuelTankName= [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.207,-1.165,-0.347 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500.0 LengthLimit=3.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RCKT,RP,IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=WingPylon02 PylonMass=60 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=MissileRail02 LaunchRailHeight=0.10 LaunchRailMass=25 FuelTankName= [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,-1.24,-0.60 AttachmentAngles=0.0,2.0,0.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=GP AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=FuselagePylon PylonMass=40 PylonDragArea=0.02 You'll note that the "IRM" tag remains. I'm assuming that HAL-AA2 Atolls could be loaded at some point in it's carreer. They are noticably absent from the loadout ini, as I'm following what howling1 and crew used. loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType= Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType= Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=IAF 23mm GP Loadout[03].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType= Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType= Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=IAF 23mm GP Loadout[03].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL UV16 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=IAF 23mm GP Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=HAL FAB250 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=IAF 23mm GP Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Wrench Kevin Stein

Kess did a pit for it??? Shoot, kick down with that, maaan, help a brutha out! I been used the F-4B pit since day one! Gonna pimp my Vigi! Wrench Kevin Stein

True! I can actually hit the ground when bombing!!! Wrench Kevin Stein

Somebody needs to take this boy out to the back alley and give him an understanding......what's next??? A P-38 with a ramjet under it's belly???? Did you get any error messages after the crash, or did it just THUD to the desktop??? Nation name shouldn't matter, it stays USAF for the most part. On a side note, what I did for my WW2 install, is changed the displayed name for USAF to "United States Army Air Force". That keeps the nation type the same at USAF (easier on the wepons pak - no editing of weapons is required) ie: [Nation002] Name=USAF DisplayName=United States Army Air Force Alignment=FRIENDLY PlayerFlyable=TRUE However, anything AFTER 1947, is gonna be USAF. Unless it belongs to somebody else (Isreal, Switzerland, Guatemala, etc) I'd suggest checking the max weight for the HVAR stations, and using them for you impossible heater loadout. Leave the main inboard stations alone, as you'll need them for the drop tanks. Cross check the Sidewinder weight against the HVAR weight. (you'll find a big difference) Wrench Kevin Stein

Pakistani F-104B (by Ajundar) UPDATED! 12/29/07 NOTE: this is a gunless bird....don't forget that it goes very fast data ini: [LeftWingtipStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.25,-0.176,-0.513 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,90.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName= PylonMass= LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_left LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank170_F104 [RightWingtipStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.25,-0.176,-0.513 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-90.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName= PylonMass= LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_right LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank170_F104 [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.883,0.400,-0.665 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=rail_Left LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank195_F104 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.883,0.400,-0.665 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=rail_Right LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank195_F104 [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.25,-0.857 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,NUC,RCN AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=Centre_pylon PylonMass=57.61 PylonDragArea=0.005 loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=RECONPOD Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Wrench Kevin Stein

Pakistani F-104A (by Ajundar) data ini: [LeftWingtipStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.250,-0.176,-0.513 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,90.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName= PylonMass= LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_left LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank170_F104 [RightWingtipStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.250,-0.176,-0.513 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-90.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName= PylonMass= LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_right LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank170_F104 [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.883,0.400,-0.665 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=rail_Left LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank195_F104 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.883,0.400,-0.665 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,IRM,FT AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=rail_Right LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank195_F104 [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.25,-0.857 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,NUC,RCN AttachmentType=WP ModelNodeName=Centre_pylon PylonMass=57.61 PylonDragArea=0.005 loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK SNEB Rocket Pod Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=PAK M117 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=PAK AIM-9B Loadout[02].Quantity=1 Loadout[03].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[03].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=RECONPOD Loadout[05].Quantity=1 This is a slightly imperfect fix, as I don't like using the SNEB pods, but they look OK. It also means I don't have to create a new Paki LAU-3 RP. Just use these, and all will be well. You'll also notice that NUC is still active, even though we don't have any air-deliverable nukes for Pakistan. Fortunately. Oh, and just to let everyone know, there is NO recon pod for the Zippers anywhere in the WepPak. Wrench Kevin Stein

That loadout is correct. This is what you're looking for, in the data ini: (btw, this is the corrected data) [LeftWingtipStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.304,-0.176,-0.513 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,90.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass= LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_left LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank170_F104 [RightWingtipStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.304,-0.176,-0.513 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-90.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,FT AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass= LaunchRailNodeName=missile_rail_wt_right LaunchRailHeight=0.15 LaunchRailMass=24.95 FuelTankName=Tank170_F104 [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.883,0.400,-0.665 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_left_inner PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank195_F104 [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.883,0.400,-0.665 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,CGR,ASM,IFP,FT AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=pylon_right_inner PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank195_F104 [CenterlineStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,2.73,-0.954 AttachmentAngles=0.0,2.0,0.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,NUC,RCN AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=Centre_pylon PylonMass=57.61 PylonDragArea=0.005 [sidewinderStation1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.251,3.148,-1.090 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.005 [sidewinderStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.251,3.148,-1.090 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 LoadLimit=250.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USAF ModelNodeName=miss_rail_centerline PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.005 If you open your data ini, you'll see the AttachmentType=NATO . This is now wrong for use with the Weapons pak Copy/Paste in info above directly OVER the weapons station in you 104G data ini. That should get you going. You guys are all jumping ahead of me...I just started on editing the Paki Zippers...give me some time to get caught up! There's still all the Indian MiGs, (most PLAAF stuff is done and posted); I haven't even started on the RAF, ADA, and all the other Friendly Powers, let alone of Commies and Close Buddies!!! Wrench Kevin Stein