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you can also download the black HM bmps I created right after the issue appeared with the 08 1st GEn patchs.

what these do, is "fool" the game engine ™ into thinking it's a hard surface. Also, as Gepard instructed, change the HMS number to 1.

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kevin stein

looks like someone didn't update their 17PFU Izrumd nose to use the 'fake pilot' seating arrangment. The one you're using is either set to a) a gunpod, as originally issues in 2005 or b) set as an ECM pod.

d/l the 17PFU upgrade pak from our handy dandy downloads section, and follow the detailed instructions I wrote, and all will be well

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kevin stein

ah....no

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kevin stein

again, we refer you to FC's post above ... none of the DAT members post here anymore.

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kevin stein

Happy Birthday Ed!!! Have a GREAT day!!

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kevinstein

neither are designed for use with the 08-level 1st Gen sims and most definately NOT with the SF2 series. To say nothing of that original terrain (to many flaws to even list, and it's from 05, don't even have water effects)

for those folks spending time on a Korean War mod, and not paying attention to whats going on all around, I'd tell you to stop wasting your time ... a whole NEW set up is being built for KAW.

Some of the best people in The Community are on it.

Be paitent, and be ready to be stunned. In several months, of course

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kevin stein

yes, the bmp files for the 3 barbed wires sets are missing.....

that's because they're tgas

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kevin stein

real money says the control key swapping is due to an older version of the aircraftobject.ini residing in the /Objects folder.

There's thread in the KB on just that very subject. Delete it, and I"ll be the keys come back to 'normal'

as to the 'crash', well, without an error message, or WHICH aircraft and WHICH terrain it's happening on, can't help

the quote Dr. Asimov: "There is as yet insuffiecnt data for a meaningful response"

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kevin stein

could you be a little less vague with "progarm bugs out"??? A little better defination, please

you do know that this is a WW2 terrain only, right?? It ain't designed for jets. And that even in the 'what if...' world of SWOTL, there's only my MTO 262 and 229 skins readily available.

there's plenty of MEDIUM airbases available on the Axis side for the 2 jets to fly from ... they should ONLY be set to MinBaseSize=MEDIUM in their data ini (something I forgot on the 229 update mod); given their long spool=up times and relativly low power/throttle response.

I just tested BOTH the 262 and 229, and had no issues (excepting the expected odd behavior of the Horten, which needs a FM update for 06 levels). Didn't test the 162, as it weren't used in MTO (even in SWOTL what ifs)

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kevin stein

to quote the Trolly Boy from 'Hot Fuzz', "Yarrp" :yes:

it should alse be mentioned, that the 06 patch level is as high as you want to go, due to 350+ aircraft needed completly new flight models (and there are some even at 06 levels that are "iffy")

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kevin stein

I'll bet real money that it's for the next title, NOT for the SF2 series. (even though the terrain in the background kinda looks like israelme)

I'd be very happy to eat my words, but don't expect to be doing so

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kevin stein

maybe a screenie would help us ID said "canoe"??? although I suspect it's the LD

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kevin stein

Not anymore!!!

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kevin stein

Sorry folks....I don't get over here very often (TS, you shoulda let me know there was a question!!!)

Anyway, what you're trying to do is convert a terrain object into a ground object. In particular, you're speaking of the parked statics that iirc, Capun did. They are best left alone, for what they are ... eye candy and something to strafe. Now, the game WILL generate it's own parked static aircraft, so there's no real need for these even to exist.

These were created before one of the patches/expansion pak that allowed the in-game generation.

You're also consusing GroundObjects with TerrainObjects. TerrainObjects ONLY exist inside the terrain cat, or, like these aftermarket parked statics, in the terrain folder itself.

GroundObjects are added, as you've figured out, via edits of the _targets and _types ini.

An example of a ground objects being used, are the various trucks seen on the airfields. An example of terrrain objects are the hangars, tents, oil drums, etc. Anything that is NOT an aircraft, ship or vehicle found in the GO folder. This would include the aforemetioned 3rd Party parked aircraft; terrain objects.

I haven't looked at the airfield inis for FE, well, ever, but if it uses similiar statements as SF/Wo* and SF2 series, said airfield inis will have parking slots assigned. Now, if one wants to ADD more parked aircraft, you'll have to plot the positions using the HUDData.ini DisplayDebug set to TRUE, and note the offsets.

All in all, I believe it's simply something NOT worth messing with. Leave them as terrain objects, and be done. Take it from the Terrain Targets Guy!

as to building missions, I never figured out how to use either of the mission builders. I just wouldn't worry about it. The game should generate the stock parked planes on it's own (well, at least in SF/Wo* sometimes!). If the airfield inis are like the other, there should be parkingchance= percentage. Up that to 90-99 and see what happens.

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kevin stein

I stand corrected, thanks Greg!!

one can assume they work as well for us cowards that fly on normal??? (I like my "here's the enemy pointer" )

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kevin stein

even better than using the Alt/D switch, is simply edit the HUDData.ini.

Extract from flightdata.cat, leave in /Flight folder and edit as follows:

(just ingore the DisplayDebug=TRUE, that only used for terrrain targting)

 

[Debug]

DisplayDebug=FALSE

//DisplayDebug=TRUE

 

TextFontName=Arial

TextSize=12

 

[infoDisplay]

//BackgroundImage=TextBackground.tga

BottomLeftPosition=0.01,0.985

BottomRightPosition=0.99,0.985

DisplayWidth=0.20

VerticalBorder=0.0015

HorizontalBorder=0.008

EnemyTargetColor=1.0,0.0,0.0,1.0

FriendlyTargetColor=0.0,0.0,1.0,1.0

UnknownTargetColor=1.0,1.0,0.0,1.0

WaypointColor=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0

TextFile=HUDText.str

NormalColor=1.0,1.0,1.0,1.0

WarningColor1=1.0,1.0,0.0,1.0

WarningColor2=1.0,0.0,0.0,1.0

AGLAltStart=609.6

AGLAltWarning=152.4

 

[Display001]

DisplayType=DIRECTOR

ObjectType=TARGET_ENEMY

ConeSize=25

BoxSize=10

BoxType=SQUARE

BoxColor=1.0,0.0,0.0,0.75

ConeModelName=redcone

 

[Display002]

DisplayType=DIRECTOR

ObjectType=TARGET_FRIENDLY

ConeSize=25

BoxSize=10

BoxType=SQUARE

BoxColor=0.0,0.0,1.0,0.75

ConeModelName=bluecone

 

[Display003]

DisplayType=DIRECTOR

ObjectType=NEXT_WAYPOINT

ConeSize=25

BoxSize=10

BoxType=TRIANGLE

BoxColor=1.0,1.0,1.0,0.75

ConeModelName=whitecone

 

[Display004]

DisplayType=RADAR

PosX=0.865

PosY=0.015

Width=0.125

Height=0.16666667

Alpha=0.60

InitTime=2.0

 

[Display005]

DisplayType=DIRECTOR

ObjectType=RADAR_TARGET

ConeSize=25

BoxSize=10

BoxType=DIAMOND

BoxColor=1.0,1.0,0.0,0.75

ConeModelName=

 

try those edits, and see how they work. Be advised, that if you're EVER use one of the radar-equipped nightfighers, you will have NO display in the cockpit, so it's vitaly important that the radar display is left intact. As we don't have any pits with scopes (since most were handled by the GIB anyway...)

HARD flight model is NOT reccomended, as there are no WW2 aircraft taht I'm aware of that make use of it. All DAT birds are optimized for NORMAL, and using hard will cause 'issues'

Most, if not all info needed on setting up is the the SF (1st Gen) Knowledge Base.

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kevin stein

I thought the Ekco just 'hung there' on the pylon ... are you saying it has a clear nose, and the dish is animated???

Now, THAT would be cool!!

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kevin stein

Happy Birthday Sandesh!!!

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kevin stein

EDIT:

lets just say that new screen templates, based off the originals -with all the hotspots in the exact same places, with swappaable backgrounds* DO exist...

they're just not available yet.

the hangar is a multi-layered template that has the 2 different concrete backgrounds, 2 different carrier decks (with expansion joints and taxi lines), 2 different 'dirt' textures, and a grass one.

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kevin stein

*=you can switch the background pic, as long as it's 1024x768

you know, Slartibartfast is a member here....maybe he can help out with the fjords??? After all, he DID get an award for them!!

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kevin stein

sorry, couldn't resist!!

W

I must disqualify myself, as I belive Fub and I discussed this one time.

but, am I thinking of PPTH??? and 13?

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kevin stein

you'd have to extract them from the menudata.cat in WoV.

and no, first gen screens won't work on next gen sims ... already tried. Excepting hangar screens, and even they are a 'bit weird', especially my patentpending artwork styles.

The hotspots, while adjustable via the screen inis, are all in different places (it can be done, with LOTS of hair pulling and jumping about)

if you can work with layers in PS or Gimp, you can try and adapt them, but otherwise ...

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kevin stein

I never did an update for the Suez terrain ... only Isreal2 and the stock WoI IsraelME. Sorry, can't help you. But..it DOES require the desert cat, like shusjake said above, for all the stock desert tiles.

Replacement sets are in the downloads section, and even the stock tiles are 'hidden in plane sight' in many other terrains. You just have to look for them, cause I don't recall where/which/when/whatever

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kevin stein

Interesting!!! I wonder how many other birds Wolf's sitting on???? ... I'm just dying to see his Spit and Hurri...

got for it Ed!! It'll look good over the Tunisia/West Med terrain (if I can ever finish it....)

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