Bluzman

New computer installing my games. considering Installing SFP1 in a folder "Flight" then installing WOV in same folder on top of SFP1 overwriting duplicate files and adding any file that is new then installing WOE in same folder on top of SFP1+WOV again overwriting duplicate files and adding any file that is new idea being A save drive space (add weapons pack only once etc) B integrate the three games anybody tried this or something similar is there a better way? any help appreciate thanks Bluzman

thanks USAF glad I asked before I tried

Keep graphics engine the same high frame rates more important than super detail terrain new flight model for helicopters of course possibly combat missions and search and rescue third wire is best for a fairly detailed simulator yet still easy and fun dont change that formula

I have impaired hand function - I use a trackball(mouse) to fly other sims will this work with this sim? looks like super sim want to it

Drop a few bombs while sitting on Runway - makes u laugh!

I am using a carrier takeoff mission and would like to modify file so I can fly the same mission with a different plane? here is the starting mission data - WOV basic mission file ........................................................................................................................ [MissionHeader] AircraftType=F-4J MissionMap=VietnamSEA MissionType=RECON StartTime=6:30:00 StartDate=05/08/1972 [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=2 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=0 PlayerMissionID=1 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=5123 AdjustStartPosition=FALSE AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE [Weather] WeatherType=SCATTERED WeatherAlt=2000.0 WeatherThickness=500.0 FogAmount=0.6 ContrailAlt=8000.0 StartWindDirection=120 StartWindSpeed=5.57222 WindGustingAmount=0.57222 [AircraftMission001] AircraftType=F-4J Name=SHOWTIME FormationType=USFighter Size=1 RandomChance=100 MissionType=RECON ObjectiveID=5 RatingForSuccess=100 StartOnGround=TRUE Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.0 Heading=290.0 Speed=0.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY CarrierBased=TRUE Nation=USN AircraftNumber=0 Squadron=VF96 PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT Loadout=Recon Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.0 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.0 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPART Waypoint[03].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=500.0 Waypoint[03].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=517000.00,693000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[04].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[05].Position=517000.00,543000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[05].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=667000.00,543000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[06].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[06].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[07].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[07].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[07].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[08].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[08].Size=0.0 Waypoint[08].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[09].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[09].Size=0.0 Waypoint[09].Speed=0.0 [GroundMission001] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=CVA-64 Constellation FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Heading=280.0 Speed=30.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE Nation=USN ShipNumber=64 .................................................................................................................. I am trying to put this plane into mission .................................................................................................... [AircraftData] AircraftFullName=F/A-18A Hornet AircraftDataFile=FA-18A_DATA.ini CockpitDataFile=FA-18A_cockpit.ini HangarScreen=FA-18A_HANGAR.bmp LoadingScreen=FA-18A_LOADING.bmp LoadoutImage= LoadoutFile=FA-18A_LOADOUT.INI AvionicsDLL=Avionics60.dll AvionicsDataFilename=FA-18A_avionics.ini ......................................................................................................... any help greatly appreciated

WOE and WOV are fun to play - also make a nice lazy flight simulator if you fly a recon LOMAC is a chore for casual simmers like me

Here are two missions I do this with copy and paste mission to text editor change airplane to your choice save as **************.msn load as single mission fly #1 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [MissionHeader] AircraftType=FA-18A MissionMap=VietnamSEA MissionType=RECON StartTime=6:30:00 StartDate=05/08/1985 [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=0 EnemyAirActivity=2 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=0 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=0 PlayerMissionID=1 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=5123 AdjustStartPosition=FALSE AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE [Weather] WeatherType=SCATTERED WeatherAlt=2000.0 WeatherThickness=500.0 FogAmount=0.6 ContrailAlt=8000.0 StartWindDirection=120 StartWindSpeed=5.57222 WindGustingAmount=0.57222 [AircraftMission001] AircraftType=FA-18A Name=SHOWTIME FormationType=USFighter Size=1 RandomChance=100 MissionType=RECON ObjectiveID=5 RatingForSuccess=100 StartOnGround=TRUE Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.0 Heading=290.0 Speed=0.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY CarrierBased=TRUE Nation=USN AircraftNumber=0 Squadron=VF96 PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT Loadout=Recon Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.0 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.0 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPART Waypoint[03].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=500.0 Waypoint[03].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=517000.00,693000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[04].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[05].Position=517000.00,543000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[05].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=667000.00,543000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[06].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[06].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[07].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[07].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[07].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[08].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[08].Size=0.0 Waypoint[08].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[09].Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Waypoint[09].Size=0.0 Waypoint[09].Speed=0.0 [GroundMission001] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=CVA-64 Constellation FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=592000.00,618000.00,0.00 Heading=280.0 Speed=30.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE Nation=USN ShipNumber=64 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ #2 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [MissionHeader] AircraftType=FA-18A MissionMap=VietnamSEA MissionType=SWEEP StartTime=6:30:00 StartDate=05/08/1985 [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=0 EnemyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=0 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=0 PlayerMissionID=1 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=5123 AdjustStartPosition=FALSE AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE [Weather] WeatherType=SCATTERED WeatherAlt=2000.0 WeatherThickness=500.0 FogAmount=0.6 ContrailAlt=8000.0 StartWindDirection=120 StartWindSpeed=5.57222 WindGustingAmount=0.57222 [AircraftMission001] AircraftType=FA-18A Name=SHOWTIME FormationType=USFighter Size=1 RandomChance=100 MissionType=RECON ObjectiveID=5 RatingForSuccess=100 StartOnGround=TRUE Position=552000.00,718000.00,0.0 Heading=360.0 Speed=0.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY CarrierBased=TRUE Nation=USN AircraftNumber=0 Squadron=VF96 PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT Loadout=Recon Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=552000.00,718000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.0 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=572000.00,718000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.0 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPART Waypoint[03].Position=552000.00,718000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=500.0 Waypoint[03].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=477000.00,793000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[04].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[05].Position=477000.00,643000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[05].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=517000.00,643000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[06].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[06].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[07].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[07].Position=572000.00,718000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[07].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[08].Position=552000.00,718000.00,0.00 Waypoint[08].Size=0.0 Waypoint[08].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[09].Position=552000.00,718000.00,0.00 Waypoint[09].Size=0.0 Waypoint[09].Speed=0.0 [AircraftMission002] AircraftType=MiG-21PFV StartTime=2.0 Name=MIG21-1 FormationType=SovietFighter Size=4 RandomChance=100 MissionType=INTERCEPT ObjectiveID=1 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Heading=270.0 Speed=0.00 StartOnGround=TRUE Alignment=ENEMY Nation=NVietnam Texture=VPAFmetal AircraftNumber=2 PilotTrainingStandard=POOR Loadout=AirToAir Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.00 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.00 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPATURE Waypoint[03].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=0.00 Waypoint[03].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[04].Position=474500.00,832500.00,3333.33 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[04].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[05].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[05].Position=495339.16,807130.53,2421.19 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[05].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[06].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[06].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[06].Size=0.00 Waypoint[06].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[07].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[07].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=0.00 Waypoint[07].Speed=0.00 [AircraftMission003] AircraftType=MiG-21PFV StartTime=125.0 Name=MIG21-2 FormationType=SovietFighter Size=4 RandomChance=100 MissionType=INTERCEPT ObjectiveID=2 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Heading=270.0 Speed=0.00 StartOnGround=TRUE Alignment=ENEMY Nation=NVietnam Texture=VPAFmetal AircraftNumber=14 PilotTrainingStandard=POOR Loadout=AirToAir Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.00 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.00 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPATURE Waypoint[03].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[03].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[04].Position=474500.00,832500.00,3333.33 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[04].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[05].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[05].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[05].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[06].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[06].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[06].Size=0.00 Waypoint[06].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[07].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[07].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=0.00 Waypoint[07].Speed=0.00 [AircraftMission004] AircraftType=MiG-21F StartTime=250.0 Name=MIG21-3 FormationType=SovietFighter Size=4 RandomChance=100 MissionType=INTERCEPT ObjectiveID=3 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Heading=270.0 Speed=0.00 StartOnGround=TRUE Alignment=ENEMY Nation=NVietnam Texture=VPAFmetal AircraftNumber=21 PilotTrainingStandard=POOR Loadout=AirToAir Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=496000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.00 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.00 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPATURE Waypoint[03].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[03].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[04].Position=474500.00,832500.00,3333.33 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[04].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[05].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[05].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.00 Waypoint[05].Speed=265.00 Waypoint[06].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[06].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[06].Size=0.00 Waypoint[06].Speed=0.00 Waypoint[07].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[07].Position=498000.00,804000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=0.00 Waypoint[07].Speed=0.00 //----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [GroundMission001] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=CVA-64 Constellation FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=572000.00,718000.00,0.00 Heading=360.0 Speed=30.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE Nation=USN ShipNumber=64 [GroundMission002] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=CVA-43 Coral Sea NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 Position=592000.000000,618000.000000 Heading=300.0 Speed=15.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN ShipNumber=43 [GroundMission003] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=CVA-63 Kitty Hawk NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 Position=594000.000000,614000.000000 Heading=300.0 Speed=15.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN ShipNumber=63 [GroundMission004] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=CVA-64 Constellation NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 Position=591000.000000,610000.000000 Heading=300.0 Alignment=FRIENDLY Nation=USN ShipNumber=64

I'm trying to save generated missions that are real good (Airport close to target - abundant targets) It seems there should be a temporary mission file generated I have paused the game to look for this file with no luck any ideas or help much appreciate thanks Bluzman

I'm trying to save generated missions that are real good (Airport close to target - abundant targets) It seems there should be a temporary mission file generated I have paused the game to look for this file with no luck any ideas or help much appreciate thanks Bluzman

Great work, thanks, the hills valleys and mountains are outstanding and make the flying more fun and interesting

On my quest for frame rate nirvana I stumbled onto a neat trick. Go to any aircraft skin folder and delete the decals.ini file, I went from 30 to 60 frames per second. Apparently a huge ammount of CPU power is used to cover the planes with decals. I did this to opponent airplanes too and the frame rate for dogfights stays very high, never below 30 for me. This has a down side, Your planes have a more basic appearance, If you are interested in historical accuracy this is not the way to go. I like the simple basic look of the planes. If your after pure air combat game play give this a shot, The planes fly so great I made the tradeoff. Try with one or two planes before you batch delete.

anybody got link for Roland C.II Walfisch cant find the darn thing thanks

great work nice plane TY

dogfight marathon sunday night history channel they do an hour on rickenbacker the planes they use on tv are same planes in game pretty neat

BACKUP ALWAYS Skins are different paint jobs for same plane Download a plane you will find instructions usually Some planes install almost automatically ie someplane.exe file after you install it try to find it in your objects folder If disaster strikes just uninstall game and turn off computer then reinstall you will find it fun to tinker with planes and settings after a while just dive in head first good luck

did new install WOE& sPack& patch then new install WOE& patch WOV files copy over to WOE Can I uninstall WOV to save a gig HD space? Thanks Bluzman

I am lousy at dogfighting. Is there a way to slow enemy planes and make it so they cant turn real sharp. I'm looking for shoot fish in a barrel difficulty. Thanks Bluzman

How can I save a campaign after a few missions so I dont have to restart if I goof a mission midcampaign TY Bluzman

DUH - it was hiding in plain sight! Wow am I a moron. Thanks much

When flying in over the shoulder 3rd person view I sometimes get a sudden view shift where I am looking at my plane from the left side (same view as when you view a bomb going to the ground and after explosion the view jumps back to viewing plane from left side) lasts for a few seconds then shifts back to over shoulder view. Seems to be the worst when flying low and slow - very problematic when trying to land. I fly with a trackball for a mouse. It seems to happen when I make quick fine trackball movements. My WOE does the same thing? Anybody else have this problem or fix ideas? How do I send a bug report to Third Wire? Thanks Bluzman

This is normal. Recon3 - this is something different - the view changes without any key inputs it lasts for 2-3 seconds and changes back again with no key input

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