Dave

And we continue to still to not care.

Ain't that the truth..... Its looks interesting. Would love to fly in a scenry like that.

Its a non issue, you switch sides everytime a game is over. One time you are the US Army, the next round you are the insurgents. I beta tested it and I didnt have any issues with it. Its a freaking game. Its multiplayer too. No one really cares, its about individual stats and if the game play is good, you can look like a sumo wrestler and no one cares. In Call of Duty World at War you can play as the German's or the Japanese, didnt hear a complaint about that from US veterans. There are more important issues to deal with (like the economy) than whats side you play on in a video game.

Nice shot Ed of that old USAFR F-16A they used to fly here at Wright Patterson.

I do not recall ever hearing Foxtrot Uniform in the series ever. But is does mean

Imadinnerjacket looks more and more like an ass everyday.....he is even more funny than Dear Leader....

Well then here it gets even easier, download a weps pack (I recommend Gunny's) and install it to a folder on your desktop. With the SF2 format, just grab a folder, like the AGM-88 for example and just put it into your weapons folder. That is it. They install just like planes and ground objects. You never have to use the wep editor at all. I highly recommends you do it this way. A. Its easier B. You dont have have edit any lines of code. Its a drag and drop install affair.

File Name: NATO Fighters 4+ Patch Post Dec 2009 Patch Level File Submitter: Dave File Submitted: 28 June 2010 File Category: User Made Campaigns Thanks to eburger68 for the incredible work he did on getting this updated. Thank you sir. Dave (USAFMTL) ------------------------------------------- NATO Fighters IV+: Post-Dec2009 Update Pack ------------------------------------------- This package contains an update pack for the NATO Fighters IV+ (NF4+) add-on designed for "Strike Fighters 2: Europe" (SF2E) from ThirdWire. It does several things: 1) Updates the NF4+ add-on for use with the SF2E Dec2009 & later patch levels. 2) Adds several new aircraft and AAA objects. 3) Adds a number of new textures to existing aircraft. 4) Fixes or updates numerous other files in the original NF4+ mod. This update pack should be applied to SF2E/NF4+ installations that are patched to the Dec2009 or later patch level, including Feb2010, Mar2010, or May2010. If you are running SF2E at the Jun2009b patch level and do NOT intend to update to one of the later patch levels mentioned above, you should NOT apply this update pack. To get to the original NF4+ files you need to go here: http://combatace.com/files/category/407-sf2-series-add-on-missions-and-campaigns/ Changes, Fixes, & Additions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Aircraft ------------ - Canberra B(1)8: added - F-4M_80_TMF: added - F-4M_85_TMF: added - F-4JUK: added - Su-24: added Upgraded Aircraft ----------------- - B-57B : made flyable - EF-111A: updated LODs - F-111D: updated LODs - F-111F: updated LODs; added missing SLIMER.TGA to skins - F-4D: added USAFGrey1 skin - F-4D_67: added USAFGrey1 skin - F-4D_75: subbed Sundowner's USAFCamo1 textures - F-4D_78: subbed Sundowner's USAFCamo1 textures - F-4D_78: added USAFGreen1 skin - F-4E_75: subbed Sundowner's USAFCamo1/2 textures - F-4E_78: subbed Sundowner's USAFCamo1/2 textures - F-4E_78: added USAFGreen1 & USAFGrey1 skins - F-4G_85: added 81st TFS skin - F-4M: added custom sounds - F-4M_75: added custom sounds; adjusted USERLIST.INI - F-16A Block 1: added Kreelin's Sep. 2008 fm - F-84F_MF: added ThirdWire SF2 flight model - Jaguar GR.1: added 2 RAF skin; tweaked names of others - Mirage 5BA/IIIC/IIIE: added ThirdWire SF2 flight models - Mirage IIIC: added BleuDA skin - RF-84F: added French skin (sans Suez stripes) - RF-84F: added 52c skin (per Campaign 1) - Tornado GR.1A: added 14 sqn skin - Other: added new hangar/loading screens, loadout images, UserLists, destroyed models, & damage holes to aircraft as appropriate/needed Other Updates ------------- - Campaigns 1-4: updated & corrected - Flight: added sight textures for F-117A, AV-8B, & Su-25 for adjusted years - AAA: updated ground units & guns; added tracers - AAA: added Gepard, M-167 VADS, & M-42 Duster - AAA: added ZPU-4 & ZiL-157 ZPU-1 - EnvironmentSystem: re-configured cloud layers to eliminate unsightly clipping - Terrain: added LimitedNations statement to main .INI; added Spain & USMC to Nations.INI - Other: added a number of weapons, pilots, guns, & sounds either to support new aircraft or to fill in previously missing items General SF2 post-Dec2009 Updates -------------------------------- - Hangar/Loading Screens: converted to .JPG format - Loadout Images: coverted to .TGA format - Damage Holes: changed to .DDS on default aircraft - F-4 DATA.INIs: updated to use new node names - Cockpit Positions: checked & updated as needed - HUD/DTVFilter Materials: added & updated as needed - Effects: added proper shaders to all effects - EnvironmentSystem: added proper Dec2009 shaders & new environment parameters - Menu Screens: coverted to .JPG format - Non-decal TGAs: copied to aircraft texture folders ** Please note that this update package includes all the fixes and updates from the "NF4+ Fixpack & AAA Add-on" released in Oct. 2009. ~~~~~~~ Credits ~~~~~~~ As noted above, this update pack adds a number of new items to the NF4+ add-on. These new items are from the following modders, who generously allowed their use: The Mirage Factory & Sundowner ...... F-4M_80, F-4M_85, F-4JUK Sundowner ........................... new USAF F-4 skins Ahmed Junaid Raza ................... Canberra B(1)8 Veltro2K, Lindr2, & Tunderchief ..... Su-24 Fencer FastCargo ........................... updated E/F-111 lods Suicidal/Banidos Team ............... M-167 VADS Gabilon & MiGMaster ................. Gepard Kesselbrut .......................... ZiL-157 ZPU-1 Kreelin ............................. F-16A Block 1 flight model Credit for the original NF4+ add-on goes to Column 5, Dave (USAFMTL), hgbn and the rest of the NF4+ team. For a list of all the modders whose work is used in the complete NF4+ add-on, see the original ReadMes included in \OriginalReadmes. Thanks to Crusader and Brain32 for assistance putting this update pack together. If we have neglected to credit anyone here, please let us know. We will get it fixed ASAP. Click here to download this file

Yes it was.

In your objects folder, is there a weapons folder?

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3077513/Thud_Ridge.html#Post3077513 That'll teach you for trying to be helpful..... Nice to see some pricks dont change. He was a prick back then and is still a prick.

What an idiot...

Sounds like my mother in law.....

The only way to get rid of them is to remark them out. One of the causes is a hole in the model of the plane itself. Which plane is it?

Happy Birthday Monty

was moved to the Arena......

Ah one from the USS Forest Fire.....very nice. How did you do that?

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Looks like a may have been a MIG-21?

I had a lot of leave too and man about 3 weeks into it I was going nuts.

Its hard to adjust after all those years. I did almost 17 years active duty before transfering to USAFR. Took awhile but you get used to it. I am full time Reserve now (ART) but its still way different than active duty. I wear a uniform one weekend a month and civies the rest but do the exact same job. So for 28 days out of each month I'm techincally a civie, but have to use my rank. Talk about night and day rules though. What are your plans?

I have been saying that for years.

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Nice bike. I ride a 2003 YZF-R6. Just went outside and took this.

Nuke them till the glow, shoot 'em in the dark.