Dave

Ah I gotcha, I was racking my brain out trying to figure out what might of been wrong.

Ok what are we looking at? What is the problem?

There is a file called "updated" that tells you what was done. Its in the main directory. My other advice still stands tooif you want to do it the long way, Either or, works but you need to watch what you do.

No it doesnt, the sim will lase the target for you if its the primary target as if there is someone lasing it for you.

Canadair Maybe I am not following you. I will say this, anyone who patches over a modded install is a FOOL. Fresh install Patch Add mods one at a time Check installs Pain in the ass yes but avoids the "Oh I ruined my install" posts which will happen. I can tell you this, anyone who doesn't follow this advice wont get any help from me.

That by far is the best post on this yet.

You have good luck with that.....while TK says no. Because you KNOW he will.

You ass, I spit beer on my computer....does that really work?

Oh yeah we need that.

Hmm my most successful aircraft.....F-16.

Diceman is this you?

Yes it works jusr fine, Ran it through the editor and no problem. I deleted the .dat file to then ran it through. Bingo no problems. However that was just a test. Most of us have moved to the MF weps pack, better organization and comformity. In fact I pull stuff from Bunyaps weps packs, add Fast Cargo's stuff to the MF weps pack and man you get one super sweet weps pack.

Well here is all I am going to say, JSF_Aggie works in the program, so speculate all you want but his word is the final one. If he comfirms or denies it then I am taking his word.

yes.

Yeah the Chargers just scored again. Oh well.

============================= Wings Over Vietnam / Sep 2008 Readme File ============================= ----------------- Table of Contents ----------------- 1. Update Notes 2. Troubleshooting 3. Contacting Customer Support --------------- 1. Update Notes --------------- This Update contains all the fixes from previous patches, and it can be applied to any version of the game. Earlier patches do not need to be applied. This Update also raises the mimimum system requirement for the game to the following: OS: Windows 2000/XP Processor: 1.0 GHz Memory: 1.0 GB RAM Hard Drive: 1.2 GB free space Video Card: 128 MB DirectX 9.0c After installing this Update, the game may require newer version of DirectX to run correctly. Please visit the Microsoft website at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...6a-9b6652cd92a3 to download and install the latest version of DirectX. We highly recommend you install this update over a clean install of the game - uninstall the game first, manually delete the folder to remove any mods not uninstalled, reinstall the game from original CD, then apply the Update. Many previous mods are not fully compatible with this Update. If you find any mods not working correctly, please check with mod-makers to provide you with updated version of their mods. List of changes in this Update include: Sep 2008 -------- * Updated Nations list and additional insignia decals are included. * Using the zoom controls on in-flight map will no longer zoom the view after exiting the map. * Air-to-ground gunsight is only depressed when unguided bombs are selected. * Shadow option is changed to adjust distance as well as the types of object casting shadow. Low: No shadows are cast. Medium: Aircraft cast shadow only in external view and only at close range. High: Aircraft and some ground objects cast shadow. Unlimited: All objects cast shadow at furthest distance. * Rear view (Shift+F5 by default) and Engine On/off toggle (Ctrl+I) are added. * Better support for dual-analog sticks on gamepads are added. * Version numbering system has been changed to show month and year in less ambiguous format. * View limits are adjusted correctly for widescreen and Matrox surround gaming display. * Shadows can now be cast using more detailed geometry model. * Airfields in Single Mission and Campaign play now include randomly placed parked aircraft. * B-52D 3d model has been re-scaled to a more correct size. * Flight model and AI have been further tweaked. * And numerous other minor fixes and changes to enhance the overall gameplay experience. ------------------ 2. Troubleshooting ------------------ Troubleshooting Tips Before installing the game, please try the following: - Close all other applications. - Verify that your system meets the minimum system requirements. If you are experiencing difficulties in getting the game to run, please try the following solutions: - Obtain the latest drivers for your video and sound card. - Obtain the latest version of Direct X from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...6A-9B6652CD92A3 - Install the latest update for your game from: http://www.thirdwire.com/downloads_wov.htm - Run scandisk and defragment your drive. ------------------------------ 3. Contacting Customer Support ------------------------------ To obtain further technical assistance regarding this product, please send an e-mail to: support@thirdwire.com. Please be sure to include the following information in your e-mail: · Processor type and speed · Operating System version · Memory (RAM) · DirectX Version · Video Card type · Error messages encountered and where/when you saw them. Or visit our forums at http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/ and leave us a message. For all other comments or suggestions, you can contact us by sending -- ============================ Wings Over Israel / Sep 2008 Readme File ============================ ----------------- Table of Contents ----------------- 1. Update Notes 2. Troubleshooting 3. Contacting Customer Support --------------- 1. Update Notes --------------- This Update contains all the fixes from previous patches, and it can be applied to any version of the game. Earlier patches do not need to be applied. If you have installed any mods to the game, you should back up any changes you've made before applying this Update. Update will delete any files that may conflict with newer files. You should re-apply the change to the new, updated files installed by this Update. List of changes in this Update include: Sep 2008 -------- * Fixes the problem of game locking up when gunpod is fired. Aug 2008 -------- * Updated Nations list and additional insignia decals are included. * Using the zoom controls on in-flight map will no longer zoom the view after exiting the map. * Air-to-ground gunsight is only depressed when unguided-bombs are selected. * Player sometimes not able to recieve "Mission Accomplished" on SEAD missions even after all the primary targets are destroyed is fixed. * AI pilots sometimes not taking off from their airbase is fixed. * Campaign engine not generating player mission correctly when low in supply is fixed. * Decoy dispenser key no longer releases multiple decoys per keystroke. * Cockpit ON/OFF toggle not removing the external model when using Medium Shadow option is fixed. * Flight model and AI have been further tweaked. * And numerous other minor fixes and changes to enhance the overall gameplay experience. The following is a list of files that are explicitly deleted by the Update installer. Additional files may be over-written by newer files. Campaigns\woiCamp1\WOICAMP1_DATA.INI Campaigns\woiCamp2\WOICAMP2_DATA.INI Campaigns\woiCamp3\WOICAMP3_DATA.INI Flight\VIEWLIST.INI Flight\MISSIONCONTROL.INI Menu\MAINSCREEN.BMP Menu\MAINSCREEN.INI Menu\MPDOGFIGHTSCREEN.INI Menu\OPTIONSSCREEN.INI Objects\AIRCRAFTOBJECT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4E_AHIT\A-4E_AHIT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4E_AHIT\A-4E_AHIT_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4E_AHIT\A-4E_AHIT_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4E_AHIT_73\A-4E_AHIT_73_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4E_AHIT_73\A-4E_AHIT_73_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4F_AHIT\A-4F_AHIT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4F_AHIT\A-4F_AHIT_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4F_AHIT\A-4F_AHIT_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4H_AHIT\A-4H_AHIT_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4H_AHIT\A-4H_AHIT_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4H_AHIT_73\A-4H_AHIT_73_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\A-4H_AHIT_73\A-4H_AHIT_73_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\AN-12\AN-12_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-4E_KURNASS\F-4E_KURNASS_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-4E_KURNASS\F-4E_KURNASS_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-15A_BAZ\F-15A_AVIONICS.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-15A_BAZ\F-15A_COCKPIT.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-15A_BAZ\F-15A_BAZ_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-16A_NETZ\F-16A_NETZ_AVIONICS.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-16A_NETZ\F-16A_NETZ_COCKPIT.INI Objects\Aircraft\F-16A_NETZ\F-16A_NETZ_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF59\HUNTERF59.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF59\HUNTERF59_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF59\HUNTERF59_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF70\HUNTERF70.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF70\HUNTERF70_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF70\HUNTERF70_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF73\HUNTERF73.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF73\HUNTERF73_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\HUNTERF73\HUNTERF73_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\IL-28\IL-28_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\KFIRC2\KFIRC2_COCKPIT.INI Objects\Aircraft\KFIRC2\KFIRC2_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-17\MIG-17_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-17F\MIG-17F_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-19S\MIG-19S_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-21BIS\MIG-21BIS_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-21F\MIG-21F_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-21MF\MIG-21MF_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-21PF\MIG-21PF_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-21PF\MIG-21PF_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-21PFM\MIG-21PFM_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23BN\MIG-23BN.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23BN\MIG-23BN_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23BN\MIG-23BN_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23MF\MIG-23MF_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23MF\MIG-23MF_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23MS\MIG-23MS_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIG-23MS\MIG-23MS_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIRAGE5D\MIRAGE5D_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\MIRAGE5D\MIRAGE5D_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\MYSTEREIVA\MYSTEREIVA_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\NESHER\NESHER_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\SAAR\SAAR.INI Objects\Aircraft\SAAR\SAAR_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\SAAR\SAAR_LOADOUT.INI Objects\Aircraft\SHAHAK\SHAHAK_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\SUPERMYSTEREB2\SUPERMYSTEREB2_COCKPIT.INI Objects\Aircraft\SUPERMYSTEREB2\SUPERMYSTEREB2_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\SU-7BMK\SU-7BMK.INI Objects\Aircraft\SU-7BMK\SU-7BMK_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\TU-16\TU-16_DATA.INI Objects\Aircraft\VAUTOURIIA\VAUTOURIIA_DATA.INI Objects\Weapons\WEAPONDATA.DAT Objects\Weapons\WEAPONDATA.INI Terrain\IsraelME\ISRAELME_DATA.INI ------------------ 2. Troubleshooting ------------------ Troubleshooting Tips Before installing the game, please try the following: - Close all other applications. - Verify that your system meets the minimum system requirements. If you are experiencing difficulties in getting the game to run, please try the following solutions: - Obtain the latest drivers for your video and sound card. - Obtain the latest version of Direct X from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...6A-9B6652CD92A3 - Install the latest update for your game from: http://www.thirdwire.com/downloads_woi.htm - Run scandisk and defragment your drive. ------------------------------ 3. Contacting Customer Support ------------------------------ To obtain further technical assistance regarding this product, please send an e-mail to: support@thirdwire.com. Please be sure to include the following information in your e-mail: · Processor type and speed · Operating System version · Memory (RAM) · DirectX Version · Video Card type · Error messages encountered and where/when you saw them. Or visit our forums at http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/ and leave us a message. For all other comments or suggestions, you can contact us by sending --

Also a lot of mods are riding on these patches, so if you want the Desert Storm mod, you better upgrade. ============================ Wings Over Europe / Sep 2008 Readme File ============================ ----------------- Table of Contents ----------------- 1. Update Notes 2. Troubleshooting 3. Contacting Customer Support --------------- 1. Update Notes --------------- This Update contains all the fixes from previous patches, and it can be applied to any version of the game. Earlier patches do not need to be applied. This Update also raises the mimimum system requirement for the game to the following: OS: Windows 2000/XP Processor: 1.0 GHz Memory: 1.0 GB RAM Hard Drive: 1.5 GB free space Video Card: 128 MB DirectX 9.0c After installing this Update, the game may require newer version of DirectX to run correctly. Please visit the Microsoft website at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...6a-9b6652cd92a3 to download and install the latest version of DirectX. We highly recommend you install this update over a clean install of the game - uninstall the game first, manually delete the folder to remove any mods not uninstalled, reinstall the game from original CD, then apply the Update. Many previous mods are not fully compatible with this Update. If you find any mods not working correctly, please check with mod-makers to provide you with updated version of their mods. List of changes in this Update include: Sep 2008 -------- * Updated Nations list and additional insignia decals are included. * Using the zoom controls on in-flight map will no longer zoom the view after exiting the map. * Air-to-ground gunsight is only depressed when unguided bombs are selected. * Shadow option is changed to adjust distance as well as the types of object casting shadow. Low: No shadows are cast. Medium: Aircraft cast shadow only in external view and only at close range. High: Aircraft and some ground objects cast shadow. Unlimited: All objects cast shadow at furthest distance. * Rear view (Shift+F5 by default) and Engine On/off toggle (Ctrl+I) are added. * Better support for dual-analog sticks on gamepads are added. * Version numbering system has been changed to show month and year in less ambiguous format. * View limits are adjusted correctly for widescreen and Matrox surround gaming display. * Shadows can now be cast using more detailed geometry model. * Airfields in Single Mission and Campaign play now include randomly placed parked aircraft. * B-52D 3d model has been re-scaled to a more correct size. * Flight model and AI have been further tweaked. * And numerous other minor fixes and changes to enhance the overall gameplay experience. ------------------ 2. Troubleshooting ------------------ Troubleshooting Tips Before installing the game, please try the following: - Close all other applications. - Verify that your system meets the minimum system requirements. If you are experiencing difficulties in getting the game to run, please try the following solutions: - Obtain the latest drivers for your video and sound card. - Obtain the latest version of Direct X from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...6A-9B6652CD92A3 - Install the latest update for your game from: http://www.thirdwire.com/downloads_woe.htm - Run scandisk and defragment your drive. ------------------------------ 3. Contacting Customer Support ------------------------------ To obtain further technical assistance regarding this product, please send an e-mail to: support@thirdwire.com. Please be sure to include the following information in your e-mail: · Processor type and speed · Operating System version · Memory (RAM) · DirectX Version · Video Card type · Error messages encountered and where/when you saw them. Or visit our forums at http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/ and leave us a message. For all other comments or suggestions, you can contact us by sending --

Well kinda but we must move on.

See you when we see you Stary.

Well at least we can get it at Wrench's tool shed, hanger screen depot, haircare and tire shop. Man I wish I kept all of Kevin's whitty saying, we could start a long thread just on those.

Good one, Ant my new desktop. What do I predict? I predict.......PAIN........

And even in that case it was a better SH pilot than the Raptor pilot. Common denominator is the pilot.

Have a good one guys!

That guy is s stooge. I wonder how much he is getting paid to make assumption.

Glad you got it worked out numblock, wouldn't be the first time that has happened to someone. It threw me for a loop too one time.