Gepard

Today we lost 3 man. 5 are heaviely wounded.

If the TSR.2 would have been fielded the Luftwaffe certainly today would not have the Tornado. I think the west germans would have looked for an other european solution, perhaps a cooperation with France, so they perhaps would have a twin engine version of a french bird, maybe a Mirage F-1 clone or a Mirage4000. The intention to build the Tornado was to strenghten the german airplane industry. Dont forget that the Airbus development was in that time frame and today Airbus industries is one of the big players in the civil branch. A licence manufacturing of american planes would not have been so efficient (profit keeping ) than building an own bird.

Tja, the american claims! Its a story of his own. I want to tell you a story that i have heared from the uncle of my mother. He was fighter pilot in the Reichsverteidigung (air defence) and has flown the Me-410. In one combat he was shot down after mixing with 4 american fighters. After the war he learned that all american fighters were credited with a kill because all of them had shooten on the Me-410 and all of them were credited that they hit the Me-410 with 7 bullits, what meant an official "kill". So in reality the germans loss one plane, the americans claimed 4 kills. A very similar story are the american claimes in Korea War or Vietnam. Or to say it with the words of Pepelyayev, the Korean War top scorer: Not all claimed kills are really kills.

Two examples of F-16C with long tail parachute housing: Easily to find in the SFP1 download section

File Name: MiG-17F pure fighter version File Submitter: Gepard File Submitted: 31 March 2010 File Category: Mig-17 Fresco MiG-17F Fighter Version (Vietnam) *************************************************** I .Credits *************************************************** This is a mod of TK's stock MiG-17F. The Pilot is a mod of one of Troopers Red_Pilots_Part1 pilots. The cockpit is taken from Zurawskis F-86. Thanks to all whos files i have used to make this MiG-17PF. *************************************************** II. MiG-17F Fighter version *************************************************** TK's MiG-17F based more on the fighter bomber versions which the polish or east germans used in the late 70th and early 80th. In this mod i made the pure fighter version the soviets delivered to the Democratic Republic of Vietnam in the 60th. This version had no wiring for using air to ground weapons in their wings. So they were unable to drop bombs or fire missiles or use rocket pods. On the other hand the soviet delivered MiG-17F had a radio range finder, a radar warning reciever and a 5 shot flare dispenser in the right side of the tail fin. Later the vietnamese got chinese J-5A (MiG-17F copies) which had not such devices. ********************************************** III. INSTALLATION ********************************************** 1. unzip into your aircraft folder subfolders will be automatically created Thats it! Enjoy flying. ************************************************ IV. THIS MOD IS FREEWARE. COMMERCIAL USE IS NOT ALLOWED. ************************************************* V. For remarks, comments, bugs, etc please use CombatAce forum or send me a PM. Hope you enjoy it. Michael (Gepard) Made in Germany March 2010 Click here to download this file

VVS is the wrong term. This is the soviet air defence. Yaks were used in the frontal aviation. Its a big difference. In Korea the units of the frontal aviation fought very successfully while the VVS units failed. To the descriped combat. It is not uncertain, that such things could happen. Unkown types of planes in the sky and suddenly one of the own is falling with a smoke trail. Its easy to guess what you would think and do in such a situation. Especcially if there is no way to communicate with each other. I dont think that the americans could speak russian and vice versa. In one of Koshedubs interviews after the fall of the soviet union he said that the numbers of the planes he had shot down was beyond the 100. One or two of them were Mustangs, he said. But only 65 of his kills were accepted by the soviet aviation authority.

Nice bird and a great video!

Wenn man miese Laune hat, so ist ein Threat im Flugzeugforum ein absoluter Stimmungsaufheller. Ich habe lange nicht mehr so gelacht: http://www.flugzeugforum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=57725&page=15

MiG-29 isdelije 9.12, 9.12A and 9.12B had no internal jammers and had no jammer pods. MiG-29 isdelije 9.13, MiG-29M isd. 9.15, MiG-29K isd 9.31 had internal jammers MiG-29UB isd.9.51 had no jammers. By the way, a MiG-29A does not exist. Its a mixture between the NATO designation code and the soviet designation. MiG-29 (isdelje 9.12) Fulcrum-A became MiG-29A. So MiG-29 (isdelije 9.13) Fulcrum-C became MiG-29C. Both designations are wrong.

So etwas gibt es soweit ich weiß nicht. Aber selbst ist der Mann. Füge folgende Zeilen in die 1962er Campaign Datei woeCamp1.ini Service004=EGermany Service005=WGermany und ganz am Ende der Datei einfügen: //LSK Einheiten [EGermanyUnit001] UnitName=JG-8 ForceID=2 UnitID=34 StartDate=1962 DescFile=woe1Start.txt StartText=woe1Start1.txt AircraftType=MiG-17F [EGermanyUnit002] UnitName=JG-2 ForceID=2 UnitID=35 StartDate=1962 DescFile=woe1Start.txt StartText=woe1Start1.txt AircraftType=MiG-21F //Bundesluftwaffe [WGermanyUnit001] UnitName=JG 71 ForceID=1 UnitID=46 StartDate=1962 DescFile=woe1Start.txt StartText=woe1Start1.txt AircraftType=F-104G [WGermanyUnit002] UnitName=JG 74 ForceID=1 UnitID=47 StartDate=1962 DescFile=woe1Start.txt StartText=woe1Start1.txt AircraftType=F-104G [WGermanyUnit003] UnitName=JBG 33 ForceID=1 UnitID=48 StartDate=1962 DescFile=woe1Start.txt StartText=woe1Start1.txt AircraftType=F-104G und folgende Zeilen in WOECamp1_Data.ini (natürlich an der richtigen Stelle, mußt ein wenig nach unten scrollen, direkt nach der letzten sowjetischen Lufteinheit einfügen) // ----------------------------------LSK [AirUnit079] AircraftType=MiG-17F UnitName=JG-8 ForceID=2 Nation=EGermany DefaultTexture=SovietSilver1 BaseArea=Holzdorf Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=16 StartAircraft=16 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=50 Morale=80 Supply=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=40 MissionChance[CAP]=40 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=40 MissionChance[ESCORT]=0 MissionChance=25 MissionChance[CAS]=25 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER Supply[001].WeaponType=FAB250 Supply[001].Quantity=880 Supply[002].WeaponType=UV16 Supply[002].Quantity=440 Supply[003].WeaponType=Tank400_MiG17 Supply[003].Quantity=240 [AirUnit080] AircraftType=MiG-21F UnitName=JG-2 ForceID=2 Nation=EGermany DefaultTexture=LSK BaseArea=Peenemünde Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=16 StartAircraft=16 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=50 Morale=80 Supply=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=40 MissionChance[CAP]=40 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=40 MissionChance[ESCORT]=20 MissionChance=25 MissionChance[CAS]=25 MissionChance[sEAD]=0 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=0 UpgradeType=NEVER Supply[001].WeaponType=FAB100 Supply[001].Quantity=480 Supply[002].WeaponType=FAB250 Supply[002].Quantity=880 Supply[003].WeaponType=FAB500 Supply[003].Quantity=300 Supply[004].WeaponType=UV16 Supply[004].Quantity=440 Supply[005].WeaponType=Tank490_MiG21 Supply[005].Quantity=240 Supply[006].WeaponType=AA-2 Supply[006].Quantity=240 //------------------------Bundesluftwaffe [AirUnit081] AircraftType=F-104G Squadron=JG 71 ForceID=1 Nation=WGermany DefaultTexture=GermanSilver1 BaseArea=Wittmundhafen Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=16 StartAircraft=16 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=25 MissionChance[CAP]=50 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=50 MissionChance[ESCORT]=25 MissionChance=25 MissionChance[CAS]=50 MissionChance[sEAD]=25 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=25 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER Supply[001].WeaponType=M117 Supply[001].Quantity=880 Supply[002].WeaponType=Mk82 Supply[002].Quantity=440 Supply[003].WeaponType=Mk84 Supply[003].Quantity=240 Supply[004].WeaponType=LAU-3A Supply[004].Quantity=240 Supply[005].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Supply[005].Quantity=240 Supply[006].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Supply[006].Quantity=240 Supply[007].WeaponType=AIM-9B Supply[007].Quantity=240 Supply[008].WeaponType=BLU-1 Supply[008].Quantity=480 Supply[009].WeaponType=CBU-24B Supply[009].Quantity=80 [AirUnit082] AircraftType=F-104G Squadron=JG 74 ForceID=1 Nation=WGermany DefaultTexture=GermanSilver1 BaseArea=Neuburg Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=16 StartAircraft=16 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=25 MissionChance[CAP]=50 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=50 MissionChance[ESCORT]=25 MissionChance=25 MissionChance[CAS]=50 MissionChance[sEAD]=25 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=25 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER Supply[001].WeaponType=M117 Supply[001].Quantity=880 Supply[002].WeaponType=Mk82 Supply[002].Quantity=440 Supply[003].WeaponType=Mk84 Supply[003].Quantity=240 Supply[004].WeaponType=LAU-3A Supply[004].Quantity=240 Supply[005].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Supply[005].Quantity=240 Supply[006].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Supply[006].Quantity=240 Supply[007].WeaponType=AIM-9B Supply[007].Quantity=240 Supply[008].WeaponType=BLU-1 Supply[008].Quantity=480 Supply[009].WeaponType=CBU-24B Supply[009].Quantity=80 [AirUnit083] AircraftType=F-104G Squadron=JBG 33 ForceID=1 Nation=WGermany DefaultTexture=GermanCamo1 BaseArea=Büchel Airbase BaseMoveChance=10 RandomChance=100 MaxAircraft=16 StartAircraft=16 MaxPilots=16 StartPilots=16 Experience=100 Morale=100 Supply=50 MissionChance[sWEEP]=5 MissionChance[CAP]=20 MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20 MissionChance[ESCORT]=25 MissionChance=55 MissionChance[CAS]=50 MissionChance[sEAD]=55 MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=55 MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0 MissionChance[RECON]=10 UpgradeType=NEVER Supply[001].WeaponType=M117 Supply[001].Quantity=880 Supply[002].WeaponType=Mk82 Supply[002].Quantity=440 Supply[003].WeaponType=Mk84 Supply[003].Quantity=240 Supply[004].WeaponType=LAU-3A Supply[004].Quantity=240 Supply[005].WeaponType=Tank195_F104 Supply[005].Quantity=240 Supply[006].WeaponType=Tank170_F104 Supply[006].Quantity=240 Supply[007].WeaponType=AIM-9B Supply[007].Quantity=240 Supply[008].WeaponType=BLU-1 Supply[008].Quantity=480 Supply[009].WeaponType=CBU-24B Supply[009].Quantity=80 Mit diesen Veränderungen erhältst Du zwei NVA Geschwader und 3 Luftwaffegeschwader.

Habe folgende Abkündigung fürs Fernsehn gefunden: Mittwoch 7. April ARTE 20:15 - 21:40 "Starfighter Mit Hightech in den Tod"

How about a France vs Great Britain campaign? Perhaps settled in the early 60th. Mysteres and MirageIII vs Hunters and Lightnings. As basic terrain would BoB terrain fit. Only an idea, but what do you think about it?

Good idea.

Found a video on YouTube about the soviet tests with a captured south vietnamese F-5E Tiger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGmBdqxrwbw Unfortunatly only at russian language. Does someone know something about the result of this test?

If i understand the vietnamese behavior correct (after the victory 1975)so their pilots loved the Tiger more than the MiG. The cockpit was not as small, you had a better view and the Tiger was a nice pilots plane. In contrary the MiG-21bis climed faster and accelerates better. What means that the MiG-21bis pilot had to choose the combat in the vertical while the Tiger pilot should go horizional. If i'm correct.

Today Northrop and EADS spokesmen declared that their companies will not longer take part at the competition for the next USAF tanker. European and especially german politicans found harsh words against Boing and the Pentagon. I dont know why the european politicians are crying, especially the german ones. Okay. The american politicians have cheaten. Its true. Okay, the USAF will get only the second best tanker plane it could have. Its true. But the pentagon had a good reason for acting so. And this reason is money. All words of free trade, of free competition etc. pp. are empty phrases if the only target is maximum profit for a big company. No need to cry. You can read it in the books of Karl Marx. Thats typical capitalism. Dont worry about it. For me its a deja vu. Around 20 years ago the german Luftwaffe scrapped the east german stand off missile capable Su-22M4 fighterbomber fleet to favor the dumb iron dropper west german Tornados. They scrapped the highly capable east german Mi-24 fleet to favor the medieval west german UH-1Ds. They favored the west german Heckler&Koch with their outdated and unreliable assault rifels against the east german WIGER company which had a NATO caliber Kalashnikov in production. ... etc etc etc. No need to cry. Thats capitalism. Not the best weapon will reach the troops. It is like it is.

Suez2 terrain or Israel2 terrain i made for SFP1. It covers the near east from Syria in the north, across Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, to Egypt in the south, also the area of Palestine where british and german planes fought in 1917/18. It would need a heavy mod to include the WW1 style ground objects but it should run in FE.

What do you mean with Turkish Front? The Dardanelles or Palestina? For Palestina a mod of the existing Suez or Israel terrains for SFP1 would be possible.

The campaign " 985 Belgium Break" withj UK and Belgium against France and Netherlands runs fine so far. Contains Mirage III, V, F-1, 2000, Sea Harriers, Harriers, Phantoms, Tornaod GR.1 and F.3, belgian and dutch F-16As, NF-5A, british and french Jaguars. Perhaps i should include the Super Etendard and perhaps i should include Danmark with Drakens and F-16A. Only problem i have to ask Mirage Factory wheter they give me the permission for using their Jagaur GR for my Jaguar A mod.

http://nachrichten.lvz-online.de/leipzig/citynews/diskussionen-nach-ueberschnallknall-der-eurofighter-ueber-leipzig/r-citynews-a-20273.html Jeder Kommentar erübrigt sich.

I have a campaign in test with RAF, RN and the belgian Air Force on the one side and the french and dutch on the other. Background is a breakaway of Belgium into a flamic and a wallonian part.

Cobras you find at http://cplengineeringllc.com/SFP1/

Ist eigentlich eine tolle Idee. Ich sehe nur das Problem, daß der Rechner in die Knie geht wenn man zu viele Objekte auf die Karte setzt. Jeder einzelne Baum, jeder Zuschauer, jedes Gebäude etc frißt Rechnerleistung. Bei meinem alten Kasten sehe ich da sehr bald ne slide show anstelle von Action. Im Prinzip wäre es ja so etwas ähnliches wie der Civil Mod, den ich vor einiger Zeit für meinen Sohn gebastelt habe. Der basiert auf FE, aber trotzdem funktionieren die Jets. Ist ein tolles Gefühl mit 1000 Sachen durch die Vogesen zu brettern, zumal FE eine bessere Geländedarstellung ermöglicht als alle anderen TK sims.