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To come back to the Phantom, i want to tell you a little bit, what i have heared from west german F-4F pilots. They told, that in mock dogfights the F-4F had a fair chance against the mighty F-15A in the 70th and early 80th. The west german dogfight tactic against the Eagle was to dive down and to try to lure the Eagle in a low altitute engagement. At low altitudes the first F-15s in Europe were limited to 6.5g only, while the F-4F was able to pull 7.5g, what meant, that the F-4F was able to hold its own at low altitudes against the Eagle and with a little bit luck it was able to score. Completly different was the outcome when dogfighting at middle or high altitudes. Here the Phantom was unable to beat the Eagle.

For me it was also interessting to hear, that some east german pilots who migrated from the MiG-15bis to the MiG-17 had the same experience as Mikhin. It seems to be, that not only Mikhin was not a big fan of the MiG-17.

Its a question of the landing gear and the weight of a plane. The landing gear of the Su-15 was not really fitted for grass stripes. On the one hand the plane was to heavy for it and on the other hand the tail section of the Su-15 was to low over ground, so that it was always a risk to touch the ground while landing. The same problems had had the MiG-23. Only the MiG-23ML seria was able to operate from grass stripes. For the MiG-21MF it was forbitten (following the LSK (east german Air Force) doctrin). The MiG-21 in contrary had a max take of weight below 10 tons and had relativly big low pressure tires. Take off and landing operations from grass stripes were regulary trained. And to Lexx idea with the Yak-28. I have read somewere an interview with a soviet fighter ace of the Korea War. If i remember right it way Mikhin or so, will try to find it. The guy said, that after his return to the USSR his unit was reequipped with Yak-25 and later Yak-28 and he disliked both planes. In contrary to the MiG-15 or 17 it were no planes of the pilots wishlist. EDIT: And here the link to Mikhins interview: http://www.airforce.ru/history/cold_war/mihin/mihin_en.htm

Ich bastele gerade an einem FM für die F-20. So weit so gut. Nur habe ich das Problem, daß das Biest linksherum weitaus schneller rollt als rechtsherum. Links etwa 2 sec für 360° rechts etwa 4 sec. Die Daten der Ailerons sind gleich. Sie sind auch die einzigen Steuerteile die für ROLL_CONTROL zuständig sind. Ich stehe momentan ein wenig da wie die Kuh vor dem neuen Tor. Welche anderen "Teile" beeinflussen noch die Rollgeschwindigkeit? Und wieso geht es bei mir linksrum schneller als rechtsrum? Hat jemand eine Antwort?

Bei C ... vom Skunkworks A Team gibt es ein statisches F-20 Modell, quasi als Bodenziel oder zur Belebung von Flugplätzen. Ich habe mich gefragt ob man das nicht flugfähig machen kann. Hab es dann mal versucht, ging relativ gut, lediglich die Steuerflächen drehten sich nicht an der richtigen Stelle und das Fahrwerk war nicht einziehbar, man konnte es aber verschwinden lassen. Ich habe eine Weile damit rumgespielt und dann einfach mal eine mail losgejagt mit dem Vorschlag, wenn C ... die Sache mit den Pivots und dem Fahrwerk macht, dann bringe ich der Tigershark das fliegen bei. Hat einen Tag gedauert und ich hatte das gewünschte Modell. Es ist zwar low poly, aber dann hat wenigsten mein oller Computer keine Performanceprobleme.

Ist mir jetzt echt ein bisschen peinlich. Es lag nicht am Flugzeug. Mein Steuerknüppel war nicht richtig kalibriert.

Wenn ich den Knüppel nicht bewege fliegt die F-20 immer schön gerade aus. Ich werde mal die Werte der Ailerons verändern. Mal sehen was passiert.

The Su-15 was a pure intercepter with no single kilogramm for air to ground action. It had not had a gun, only missiles. Later a gunpod was adopted. It was to difficult to operate under the conditions of semi prepared airstripes. In that point the MiG-21 was superior. It was able to take of from grass or sand stripes which were located only some kilometers behind the frontline.

Is there any progress on the tank mod?

Jet Thunder sieht wirklich beeindruckend aus. Hoffentlich verkraftet meine olle Mühle die Hardwareanforderungen.

Looks fine.

The Kh-23 (Cha-23) was rubbish. Only one of 1000 launched missiles hit. Later the Yak-38 got the Cha-25 missile family. This were high accurate and deadly weapons. Used in Afghanistan very successfully (the missiles, not the Forger )

Oberfeldwebel Florian Pauli Sanitätsfeldwebel (medical aid) Fallschirmjägerbatallion 313 killed by suicid bomber 7. Oktober near Pol-E-Khumri (Afghanistan) 14 of his comrades were woundet

Thats a good news. I love all Tiger derivates.

Ich habe mal nach Steel Beasts 2 gegoogelt. Beim Preis blieb mir einfach die Spucke weg. T-72 Balkans on Fire habe ich auch irgendwo rumstehen. Vielleicht gibts ja einen Mod, der den Leo spielbar macht. (Die Hintergrundgeschichte für diese Sim fand ich übrigend selten dämlich. Wer will schon für die Serben Kroaten scheuchen?)

I remember that i have seen somewhere the F-20 as static model, but not as flyable bird.

Nice bird, really nice bird. Well done everybody. But two comments. 1. LSK (east german) L-39 had no gun. It were L-39Z0. The ones with gun were L-39ZA. 2. The L-39 was often showed with R-3S (AA-2 Atoll) missiles. But it was unable to launch this missiles, because the minimum launch speed of the missile was higer than the maximum speed of the plane. Only in dive the L-39 could reach the needed speed, but at a speed at 750 kph (i hope this is the correct value) the air brakes were deployed automatically to reduce the speed to a save level. The Albatros was a trainer, no combat bird. The L-59 was designed as a trainer and light combat plane.

The question is which MiG-21 version vs which F-4 version. For example: The MiG-21 pilots descriped the MiG-21F13 as a high agile plane "which would go into a curve when the pilot only was thinking about it". The MiG-21PF was descriped as sportsplane or MiG-21 GTI. The MiG-21M was descriped as agil as a lorry or moving van. The MiG-21MF was a bit better, but only at the first 500 meters it could match the climbrate of the MiG-21F13. And so on and so on and so on ... With the Phantom its the same.

80 years ago the first prototype of the Ju-52 transport plane took off for his a maiden flight. It was an easy to operate, low cost plane which was able to operate from grass stripes. But only 6 birds were built. After a while the Lufthansa asked for an improved version for passengers with 3 engines. This became the Ju-52m3, the first efficent passenger plane of the world. In the 30th of last century the Ju-52 was a revolution for civil air transport, a role that was later taken over by the american DC-3. During the war the Ju-52 was used mostly in the role as transporter, but also as parachute plane or bomber. It was very reliable and was loved by its pilots. They gave them the name "Tante Ju", "Aunt Ju".

Die ganze Scheckbuchdiplomatie ist Murx. Sie bringt unsere Jungs in Gefahr. Statt den Afghanen 3000 Eus für jeden Verletzten zu geben hätte man die Verletzten vor den örtlichen Mullah zerren sollen. Dann nachfragen, was die Scharia zu Diebstahl sagt und dann von den Dörflern verlangen, daß sie der Scharia genüge tun. Statt sich an unseren Geld zu mästen hätten die nun etliche Leute mit abgehackten Händen und Füßen zu versorgen. Ich weiß das klingt hart. Aber Afghanistan ist ein hartes Land. Mit humanitärer Weicheierei erreicht man rein gar nichts.

In the bad old time we had such a slogan too: "With GDR patriotism, polish diligence, romanian quality, hungarian disciplin, soviet flexibility and mogolian microelectronics we will pave the way to communism!" With other words: With non existing things.

Seit gestern sind es 44.

For dogfight with guns its a simple rule: closer is better!

Sagt mal gibt es eigentlich einen Alpha Jet für WOX? Ich kenne nur das Modell von C apun und das ist nicht sonderlich toll.

Ja. Dieser Vogel ist echt super!