Gepard

In the last days i set the river Rhine completly on the map. Thatswhy i was forced to make the Mittelrheintal, the famous avalley in Germany along the Rhine where you can find a lot of Castles. To flying in this valley is a nice experience, but unfortunatly i'm unable to set castles in the area. This has never happen before, dont know, what i have done wrong.

Nice ship, a very nice prey for the Su-22M4.

Project SM was the MiG-19, like project E was MiG-21 and project S the MiG-15, if i remember right. F means forsasch afterburner P means perechwatschik Interceptor radar equipped PF means perechwatschik forsasch Interceptor radar equipped with afterburner PFM means perechwatschik forsasch modifizirowanui PF modernized S means Saphire Radar type Saphire RP-21 SM means Saphire modifiziroowanui Saphire modernized SMT means Saphire modifizirovanui topliwo Saphire modernized with larger tanks M means modifizirowanui modernised

Nice birds, but the installation is a little bit tricky, nothing for newbees.

The aerodynamics was better, but i thought, that it were only prototypes, because the MiG-21 development made a good progress.

First of all i made Vogesen terrain compatible with the Expansion, what means, that now also winter, spring and autumn terrain will be available. I added some new bridges and some new sight seeing objects, like the castles. Many more streets are now to see in the Elsass region (Rhine Valley), The Frontline and the River Rhine are now longer etc. Parked aircrafts are with the expansion automaticaly available. In the Beta i used a standard airfield for all, in the new version you will find different airfields.

In the soviet SM project had a MiG-19 the nose part of the MiG-21PF, also with a much bigger air cone.

J18Dread, Vogesen terrain high data are taken from satellite high data information. The mountains are nearly so as you can find them in reality. The only diffrence is, that the Vogesen looks a little bit more rocky than in the game. one or two big mountains would be nice, but such mountains you cant find in this area. The highest "hill" is the Grosse Belchen or on french the Grand Ballon, but on this highest hill you can walk without problems. Its not to compare with the high mountains of the Alps.

To put a little bit water in your wine. The effect may be good for fuel aerosol bombs, for nuke effects it lack one major nuclear weapon effect which is called EMP electro magnetic pulse. It destroyes all microelectronic devices in the aerea. What means, that after use of a nuclear bomb all of your plane avionics must switch off.

THe Mi-8 was used by the soviets in Afghanistan in special combat formations. The Mi-24 leaded the formation and searched the enemy in front and the Mi-8 cargo bay gunners protected the back of the formation. One small correction. In the Mi-8 cargo bay the soviets used a 12.7 mm Machine gun, but is was not the DSHK (Duschka) but the 12.7 4 barrel gatling of the Mi-24.

The other major difference is, that J-10, Eurofighter, Rafale etc use their canards for maneuvering. The Je-8 canards were only stabilisers.

Silverbolt, the Je-8 is a plane with normal design, the J-10 is a plane of canard design. A Mirage is closer to the J-10 than a MiG.

The Je-8 was the planned successor of the MiG-21. It should be named MiG-23, but had nothing in common with the later MiG-23 swing wing fighters. Je-8 was developed from the MiG-21PF. It had the same tail, the same wings, the same gears etc. It got a different nose to incorporate the new Saphire-23 radar, the later MiG-23 radar. Also was planned to implement the R-23 missile family. The air intake was build below the cockpit, 10 years before the F-16. (Is the F-16 a copy of the Je-8, could i ask with the same gestus some people always ask wheter this or that soviet plane is a copy of an american bird.) This was neccessary, because the new engine had need a much higher air flow. The E-8 was built in 2 prototypes and it proved much superior to the MiG-21 in all aspects of speed, accelleration, climb rate, agility and weaponary. But the engine was still "green". It had major weakpoints which cause a fatal plane crash when the first stage of the engine exploded. The problem could not be solved and at this time no other engine of this class was available. Thatswhy Je-8 project was canceled. The surviving plane was scrapped. It was not used in MiG-25 radar trials. It was much to small for it. To say the chinese J-10 based on the Je-8 is as wrong as the idea, that the F-16 is a copy of the Je-8. Its pitty that the Je-8 never came to the troops. It would have been a much better MiG-23 than the swing wing Floggers.

In the LSK/LV (east german air force) manuals is stated, that the Cha-25 (KH-25) family was fired below 10 km range. Dont know, what the soviet way to use was.

Which missiles you used for this long shot?

I had never had problems with hidden weapons while testing the Susi. I use the standard settings of WOE, no special WeaponPack. The solution of the problem is open file Su-22M4_data.ini with notepad editor Press CRTL+H replace AttachmentType=WP with AttachmentType=WP,Soviet should fix it.

I dont know the roadside airbases, but i guess, that there should be no problems while using my and Aggies parallel. But this is only a guess. Where can i find Aggies airbases? It seems to be, that im to stupid to use the search button.

MiG-21F13

This lines below are the first attempt to make the new base Zerbst in the GDR (East Germany). It is not complete. The runways and taxiways are correct, the other things are only placeholders which must still get their correct positions. There are also no Tower, Hangars, parked airplanes etc. As said, only the first attempt. Copy the lines into your Deutschland_targets.ini and replace all lines of the already existing Zerbst GSSD AFB. 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Its only in the WOE part. for SFP1 it runs fine. But i'm working on an update and on a new base.

HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=STEEL Try this and set all armors to 20mm. Its not correct, but it helps.

I'm glad that you enjoy the Susi. By the way, where can i find this cool Kusnetzow carrier?

5 or 10 rounds of caliber 20 mm would not harm a Flanker. Caliber 30 mm would do it. Soviet estimates made in 70th said, that around 6 30 mm hits would kill a F-4 Phantom. But there are reports that planes withstand heavier hits. My favorit is a MiG-15 which was hit over 200 times by 12,7 mm Machine gun and survived and a iraqi MiG-21 which was rippled from nose to tail with Machinegun 20 mm. This bird was repaired in Dresden and has flown again against the Iran. Other sources tells the story, that even single hits destroyed a plane. It depends where the bullet hit.

Guns are overmodelled in SFP1 seria. Its a well known problem. But there are some modded planes (with added armour) which can survive a lot of hits till they come down.