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Very nice Jim, thanks a lot. Mannie, you come up with an Israeli name for this bird yet?

No, I was talking about the F-15B & D, not the F-16B & D. I'm sure I've seen pics of them with CFT's like the F-15E & F-15I.

Excellent stuff. Really looking foward to this one.

List updated. Thanks a lot guys. Sag, do the B & D have CFTs? I think that there are some in the weapons pack (created for the first version of the F-15C?) but I'm not sure they were actually implemented. I think the IAF do use them though.

Not where, when. It's a WIP at the moment while Clint takes a shower......

Small update: Added loadout.bmp (I can't believe I missed it!) Added new loading screen courtesy of gbreuder

Boris, you just had to scroll down after using the links I put in my previous post and you would have found all of the above that Sag just listed.

Don't know much about the Germans, but here is some info about the Brits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dad's_Army L/Cpl Jones: 'Don't Panic Mr Mainwaring!'

Firstly, it's free to join Avsim, then you can access the file library. Next, the F-15s are in the add on aircraft here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...amp;showcat=136 And skins are here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...&showcat=43 @ USAFMTL - Dave is there any chance of uploading the F-16 pack that's at Avsim so people don't have to go there to look for it? I can upload my copy if you want.

Try going into the game's graphics options settings and changing the cockpit textures to a lower setting.

Start on the runway, fly a few waypoint manually mainly to get chance to admire the planes and the terrain, then alt-n to where the action is. But following on from this, do you guys alt-n back home or fly that leg manually? Personally I try to fly it myself, unless the missus is calling me back to real life.

'He' being Razbam? Very nice pics btw.

There is an Israeli F-16C and F-16D included in the F-16 pack available at Avsim. Also, there's an F-16C-25 skin at Avsim too. There is no F-15B available yet, Israeli or otherwise. There are Israeli F-15C skins available here at CA. They are for the earlier version of the F-15C, also available here. There is an Israeli F-15D that is WIP at the moment.

Great stuff gents. Thanks a lot.

Thanks Jim. Just added it to the fictional skins list. IMHO it would be something the Israelis could really make use of in reality. Not for an all out fight with the Syrians or Iranians, but over Gaza or Lebanon the combination of accurate sensors and devastating concentrated firepower would be a real bonus. Does anyone know how the USAF versions are doing over Iraq and Afghanistan?

Looks like the IDF's censor has been hard at work!

A flyable F-4G squadron would be good. A whole campaign of defence suppression missions would really seperate the men from the boys!

Marcfighters and, I think, checksix have A-7E skins too. You might find what you need at one of those sites.

Very nice - we need an Israeli skin for the F-15D (and we don't yet have an F-15B). As for the terrain idea, a map of virtually the whole Med would present lots of possibilities for missions and campaigns.

Excellent stuff Kevin. Iran/Iraq is one of my favorite installs so an update to an already great terrain would be great.

Check for them in the Sounds folder of your WoV install. If they are there you can copy them over to the new install.

So why not use the A-7E instead of the A-7B? You can get it here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autom...mp;showfile=529

Is the first pic in this thread the YAP CH-53? http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=20084

Damn! You always do that to me! Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work.

I had an idea for an add-on to the DS mod that could either be included in the initial release or as a follow up. Essentially it's Desert Air Pirates (DAP); a series of historically accurate single missions from the real Desert Storm campaign. Kind of like YAP, but with sand..... I'm no mission maker, so the experts can run with this if they want, but here are some ideas: 1) First Kill, 17th January 1991 0320hrs - Capt Steve Tate (71st TFS/1st TFW, USAF, F-15C) entered the history books in the early morning of January 17th when he scored the first kill of the Gulf war. '.....We were escorting the strike force [to Baghdad] which included F-4Gs, F-15Es, F-111s, EF-111s and B-52s...The entire sortie was at night and we flew with our lights off......As I turned back towards [the northeast] AWACS called out a possible bogey...a Mirage F1 heading west at 8,000 ft....' 2) Tornado Down, 17th January 1991 Dawn - Flt Lts Adrian Nicholl and John Peters (No. XV Sqn, RAF, Tornado GR Mk1) were part of a 4 aircraft flight tasked with hitting the Iraqi airbase at Shaibah near Basrah with loft attacks using 1,000 lb bombs.... 3) Splash One Fulcrum, 17th January 1991 1500hrs - Capt Charles Magill (USMC exchange officer serving with 58th TFS/33rd TFW USAF, F-15C) was leading a flight of 8 F-15Cs on a CAP for a strike by 24 F-16s supported by F-4Gs and EF-111s when AWACS vectored them towards 'a couple of MiG 29s CAPing the target area, Al Taquaddum airfield.....The Iraqis had a pretty sophistcated air-defence system. They fired a few SAMs at us as we headed towards the MiGs...' 4) Airfield Strike, 17th January 1991 night - Col Tom Lennon (48th TFW, USAF, F-111F) led a force of 54 aircraft against the large Iraqi airfield north of Baghdad.'.....about 30 miles inside Iraq we started getting a lot of indications that people were looking at us and locking onto us so we were forced to descend a lot earlier than planned..we were running at about 650 kt at 200 ft and we just accelerated on out....The sky was red with AAA. I was first one in and my initial attack was was to drop a GBU-15 on a hangar. We came to release point, hit the pickle button and for some reason the bomb didn't come off. We went into our turn and and came back for a re-attack....' 5) Dual Role Hornets, 17th January 1991 afternoon - Lt Cdr Mark Fox (VFA-81, USN, F/A-18C) was one of flight of Hornets armed with four Mk-84 2,000 lb bombs bound for H-3 airfield in western Iraq when the hawkeye made an urgent call, 'Hornets, bandits on your nose, 15 miles.' The bandits were 2 Iraqi MiG 21s, which Fox and a wingman, Lt Nick Mongillo, downed before proceeding on to bomb the target. 6) Desert Eagle, 24th January 1991 - Captain Ayehid Salah al-Shamrani (No. 13 Sqn, RSAF, F-15C) shoots down two Iraqi Mirage F1s with AIM 9 Sidewinders. It appears the aircraft were escorting one or more Mirage F1s attempting t deliver an Exocet attack on Allied warships in the Gulf... These only scratch the surface of the air war over the Gulf. There are missions involving Navy and Marine A-6Es on strikes against Iraqi land and naval targets, Marine F/A-18As flying defence suppression with HARMs and CBUs, RAF Jaguars taking out missile boats with rockets, Buccaneers lasing targets for Tornadoes or their own bombs and Canadian Hornets flying CAP and strike missions. We could see historical missions involving F-15Es on the Great SCUD Hunt or tank plinking' with 500lb LGBs, USN F-14As flying TARPs recon missions into the teeth of Iraqi AAA and SAM defences, or A-10As flying strikes over the 'highway of death' or 'Sandy' rescue cover for downed pilots. It would not be too hard to compile 100 historical missions from the material available in books or on the net, and if these could be re-created for the DS mod by the talented mission makers in the community, we could have something to rival YAP in terms of it's scale and ambition, with a ready set of planes, skins, objects etc as a base from which to work. Can I just stress here that this is no way a call to the DS team to do more than they are already doing for the community. I'm certain that the mod will be great when it's released. It's just a suggestion for either the team or anyone else in the community to take up if they wish. What do you guys think?