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On 3/8/2026 at 8:25 AM, Gepard said:

My question is, why he does not show a blood chit?

well, getting the dude with a pipe to calm down would be first priority.  reaching for a blood chit could easily be construed as reaching for a weapon. 

cant help with this im afraid

but nice to see you coming out of one retirement as youre heading into another.  

1 hour ago, MAF1247 said:

Even if someone buys it only to sell it on Steam or GOG, it would already increase the revenue stream by itself. One of the reason why SF2 is not well known in the flight sim community is because is almost impossible finding or buying it online, considering the abysmal state of ThirdWire website. Moreover, it's too overpriced. It's true that with mods it offers a better experience, but paying 100$ for a 17 years old flight sim it's really a robbery considering the actual market with competitors like DCS, IL2 or even BMS (which is for free). On steam the complete collection should not go beyond 30$, which is a fair price for what the game offers today. On this, i'm sorry if i sound rude or offensive, but TK is a little bit too greedy.

I honestly don't even know if the license would cost in Millions of dollars. TK itself said that SF2 didn't sell too much to make another expansion or a sequel, so i don't think he could value so much the licens for the game. In my opinion, to be optimist, maybe he could get $300K-$500K.

not gonna argue about Steam/GoG sales or decent pricing for on there.

but consider, it is HIS game. his creation, his baby

the South Vietnam Hercules skin, one of my simplest and easiest to create, still took about 48 hours to create. not 4 days, 48 individual hours spread over two weeks (no pun intended). thats one skin for one established aircraft. TK made a whole series of games, and owns the IP to every bit of it that comes off the TW website.

it might be old. he might not be doing much with it. he might not be managing the sales of it well. but it is still TKs baby. and if he was going to sell out cheap like 300K, he would have done so along time ago.

23 minutes ago, Nightshade/PR said:

Surprised it didn't fall over the deck edge.

so thats , what. OK-73 wire? 

meanwhile, its sunday. time to relax. catch a Space-A somewhere nice

you'd need to have the money up front to but it.  given he still gets some income from it, think high 6 figure minimum. more likely a million or two

now, if youre spending that much money to get teh IP, youre probably not buying for the fun of the community. so youre now going to have to hire on some folks to update the early 2000s Win7 original to a 2026 Win11/12 standard. prefereably a mix of experienced modders and new blood. so thats a few million in payroll and equipment, even if you let everyone work remote.

throw in lawyers for legal stuff, advertising (TKs big mistake back in the day) to at least break even and other unforseen expenses and youre talking at least $10 Million. low ball estimate without the expectation of your creation rivalling DCS or War Thunder. mulitply by 5 or 6 if you want it good enough to be the dominant flight sim out there. 

except for the talking to TK i've done minor looking into it, and it is a recurring daydream on long road trips. most commonly launched when the lottery billboards are up above 100 mil.   

4 hours ago, dtmdragon said:

On a side note when I was researching the 'Hill Grey' scheme for the 36th I learnt there was an initial 3-tone grey 'Hill Grey 1' scheme used on the first F-4E to be repainted. 

it was much more prevalent on the short nosed Phantoms, the long nose birds typically went gray late enough to go straight to Hill 2. but quite a few Reserve and ANG birds were Hill 1 (reminders of the Hasegawa "Egypt 1" models from years ago)

since its not friday anymore, i'll just put these here

i'll just make my own Hasegawa box art

that moment you realize that while a trash hauler, his jet has fresh coffee and better facilities than a relief tube......

Ground Control to Major Tom
Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong

Can you hear me, Major Tom?

The Last Herk out of South Vietnam

that very first formation is a rather interesting mix of birds

somewhere over the Med

i get teh feeling we're not welcome

do svindanya!

time to do some of that pilot sh!t

tell corrosion control, missing markings for 3 MiGs and one Moskva class battlecruiser....

5 minutes ago, Flanker562 said:

Okay. Yeah I don't know why somebody didn't make it, I figured Insky would do it, or even (maybe?) Veltro2K (but he's out), so okay, good to know.

Ed had alot on his plate. but unfortunately his health took him out of the game.

Su-34 is not one of the unfinished projects over at Coyote Aerospace

while the game is in fact biased to the western stuff working better, you need to consider something

since the 1970s, the Soviets/Russians would release a weapon, and make claims on it. western intelligence would then analyze and make judgements based on western thinking.

so we ( the US particularly) make weapons to beat what we THINK the Soviet/Russian systems can do

when the weapons meet on a battlefield (or even just get seen like the MiG-25 in Japan 1976), the Soviet/Russian systems tend to fall way way short of brochure.

meanwhile, the Russians release something new they claim will beat the current US system

lather. rinse. repeat.

6 hours ago, Muesli said:

You're just making requests, dude... and more than 1...

Browse the sire thoroughly, see what is available. And if not here, accept it or make your own effort to make it. I have it up to he wazoo with the takes with their wishes and demands and greediness...

breathe man. breathe.....

he making his couple posts so he can get his 2 free DLs per Eriks new policy

the variety and type are amusing. but its way way way better than the dearth of "why cant i download" posts that were prevalent 6 months ago

7 hours ago, Flanker562 said:

It does have nice lines I'll give it. I could have some legit person (FLOGGER23?) was working on one, or Insky uploaded a ripped model or something.

i thought someone was paying somebody else to create one. legit model, fresh build. been awhile since there was updates and dont remember if it got completed and released or not tho

i do know Flogger23 wasnt working that. (did he ever release his Fitters? )

8 hours ago, Trotski said:

Someone failed, ie failed to tell the F15 crews, that local air defences, in the surrounding countries, (Kuwait) were on high alert, so a failure at the USAF end I would say if the IFF's were inactive. Hopefully this very expensive error didn't kill anyone who didn't need to be slotted !!! Kudos to the Kuwait Air Defence chaps though, as tthey did the their jobs, and were not in error, or so it appears. Hopefully no other FUBARS of this magnitude will happen again. 

the error (human or computer) was more likely on the part of the Patriot. one jets IFF down, i believe. three down in the same flight? nope

somebody didnt read the scope right or the black box that says "thats a good guy" broke

that said, i would like to take the time to mention that the MIM-104 has now shot down more US fighters in the 21st century than the S300 and 400 combined 

1 hour ago, Wrench said:

I'd heard a rumor that the export versions weren't as capable as those kept at home. We know some aircraft were downgraded for export (Mig-23s come to mind)

same as the AIM-9P given to many allies when we were using Js

the "exact same thing as Uncle Sam uses" sales for everyone is a recent thing. previously you got a different version (F-4F, F-4E(J) ) or paid top dollar while professing to hate communists (IIAF F-4s and F-14s)

off topic, if the Shah's son takes over when it all shakes out in Iran, does that mean a new order for Imperial Iranian Air Force F-16s?

6 hours ago, Gepard said:

 The West Germans captured a East German R-3S missile and after an analysis they stated: Its a perfect copy of the AIM-9B.

more like a theft. by the Americans or Brits, who could have military liasonh teams travel  all over Germany (as could the French and Soviets)

i remember hearing or reading somewhere that one such team found an R-3S and stuck it in the trunk of their official vehicle. East German polizei were not allowed to stop them, but the West German polizei ticketed them when back on our side of teh Curtain because they didnt hang a red oversize flag off of it!

wish i could remember  where i got that from, but i do know it was before i got married so i heard about it before 99.......

wheres the Shotz Brewery tho 

a little homework on this mild Sunday...

@angelp wicked to see you back and about to post. that said,

what would be up with th U-2S that was in progress a couple of years back?

so if any of the rest of us want to clean our rooms of this house, do i understand that its preferred to simply hide them?

and if it is preferred to totally zonk them (preference by site staff not author) do you want to build a list up and handle it all at once or take it case by case?

this thread reminds me that i've redone several of my earliest mods as my skills got better, and it would probablly be a good idea to remove most of my 2012-2014 work

ini editing is easy

learning what to edit it the tricky part

which aircraft have 7 weapon station groups?

what?

ok, let  make it simple. where are you from\?

what?

what aint no planet i ever heard of. do they speak English in what?

w-w-what?

ENGLISH MOTHERF^(&ER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

On 2/7/2026 at 4:09 PM, kavehyazdi2001 said:

I have a question, do all modders just use ini files or they use another software to find the positions on the aircraft ? I'm sure they can't just edit ini files.

brother, ini files are one of the easiest things to edit in this game. Notepad(the software that comes with any windows version) and knowledge are all you need.

as for postiions on aircraft, if you are talking one thats already in game, try Mue's LOD viewer to get you in the rough area. it wont tell you 7.26725, 5.0085 specific, but get you 7.27 and 5. you then play with the numbers to fine tune

its better still at its designed purpose, helping view skin and decal edits without firing up teh game

if youre talking about an aircraft that still need to be imported into the game, i'll defer that to the modellers

but as to your original question, everyone who ever made a mod, even just a simple skin, had to edit an ini

6 hours ago, MigBuster said:

1. The US or NATO didn't want West Germany to have that capability at the time (This has often been the stock answer given over the years)

Or

2. From what I have seen West Germany had no requirement for AIM-7 capability on F-4F..........whether that was for saving cost, or due to #1 above not sure.

i think one is the more likely answer. there was less incentive to have BVR capability going into teh 90s and yet the AMRAAM portion of the ICE upgrade went forward

yes, i know that started on paper in teh 80s, but look at how much got cancelled or scaled back when the Bear went into hibernation.......

a scene pops in my head lately when the KB is mentioned