dast24

okay. they would be nice for 2006 onwards :-)

i think fighterbomber skins should be always camo skins navy and Fighter/interceptor lowviz(atleast in the 90´s lowviz) for paran camo skins i suggest we use the colors of the HD terrain tilsets. a navy flag is already included in the Mig-29K package :-) may be some lowviz decals are needed. i think we can use the HuAF skin as lowviz for the mIg-29´s in general(i got permission and already used it on the Mig-29K)

lets focus on the airforce first. but my 2 cents i would say that carrier ops starts with the 90´s for Paran with CV carriers and dhimar maybe a bit earlier with VTOL carriers (sea harriers like india)

Cliff sended me this one:

Paran DAC Training:

View File MiG-29K Paran Navy Paran Navy Part 1 MiG-29KP ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS: MiG-29KP based on MF MiG-29 model (altered by Russo) PARAN carriers extracted from ultimate carrier package REQUIREMENTS: Yak-44P does not include LODS. SF2:NA needed to make it work (E-2C hawkeye from thirdwire). Most of the work was done by Wrench I only altered the ini's. COLLECTIVE WORKS: I´ve to thank many persons for their help and permission to use there stuff. Logan4 --> skin and laserpod ValAstur-->Paran Navy Flag Russo2k --> MiG-29K eburger68 --> carrier(who ever created the Clemenceau/Foch Class CV [using SCB-125 model]) Crusader (Viper Team) --> for the avionic and updates Mirage Factory --> for MiG-29 Ravenclaw_007 --> for awnsering stupid questions about the refuel probe and the Bird-Slicer SPinners --> KillMarking Info and the what if section CombatACE Site --> for the knowledgebase and really nice guys from the community there Anyone I forgot to mention a big sry, it was not intentional. Contact me and you will be added. INSTALLATION: I included, as far as I know, everything needed in the right folders so just drop the folders in your modfolder and you should be able to fly the MiG-29KP from carriers. CAUTIONS: Make a backup copy of your old files or merge them with my data specifically the nations.ini file. if you stumble across any problems leave me a message in the support topic. PARTS OF THIS RELEASE REQUIRED SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR USE. PLEASE CHECK THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR'S RELEASE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE WORK. Submitter dast24 Submitted 09/26/2013 Category What If Hangar

bomber planes like il28 an vatour would be nice addition french fighter/bombers also.many of them get lost anyway in the early years so to hell with it :-D (3 Wars from 1959 to 1968) maybe logan4 has a suprise for the mid 60´s to late 70´s for us. had to wait for the response^^ the T-6 Texan and T6-Texan II could be added for training purposes but we have to be careful that it doent get to colorful^^ i think when paran recieves the Mirage F.1 we can cancel most of the mg-23´s (but keep the mig-27´s?)

ah nice so we can do an early and late F-16A skin. there is already a Dhimar F-16 Avaible with standard 2 tone grey(like USAF) this one can be used for early batch of F-16A´s and your skin for the later the Attack skin for the phantom is also nice :-) i would suggest that we do nation specific aircrafts and update the standard Campaigns with the new aircrafts and reduce the foreign support a bit but first we need the plane line up^^

So far for Paran i have the following A/C Mig-29A(late version with refuelprobe can be done or just replace it with the SMT) Mig-29C(late version with refuelprobe can be done or just replace it with the SMT) Mig-29SMT(based on A with Fakepilot CFT and refuelprobe) Mig-29K -->all Mig-29´s with old cockpit unfortunatly(until new model arrive) Yak44(based on E-2 Hawkeye from SF2:NA) all with proper userslist loadout and skins on the SMT i´ve to iron out some bug´s and check the in service dates of all 29´s other thougts: we can use the old J-10 or wait for the one from Bandios Team the J-31 Beta is for now to far from the finish line so we have to wait we could use some skinner´s to do nice new skins for Paran/Dhimar(if anyone has something finished show us NOW! :-P if we go with the F-15C for dhimar i would suggest the early verion that is based on the thirdwire model

i think the lighting F53 is to specialized. maybe would be better.to wait until the F-104 is avaible or use the Mirage 3 or use the F-11 Tiger

add this to your nation´s ini ;-) [Nation256] Name=Dhimar DisplayName=Dhimari Air Force Alignment=FRIENDLY PilotNameList=NamesArabic.lst RankList=RanksRAF.lst CallsignList=CallsignsUS.lst Formation.Fighter=USFighter Formation.Attack=USFighter Formation.Bomber=USBomber Formation.Transport=USBomber Formation.Tank=USTank Formation.MobileAD=USAD PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL GenderRatio=0 DebriefSuccessMusic=DebriefSuccess.wav DebriefFailMusic=DebriefFail.wav DebriefKilledMusic=DebriefKilled.wav SpeechFile=USAFSpeech.cat SpeechTextFile=USAFSpeechText.str [Nation257] Name=Paran DisplayName=Parani Air Force Alignment=ENEMY PilotNameList=NamesArabic.lst RankList=RanksRAF.lst CallsignList=CallsignsUS.lst Formation.Fighter=SovietFighter Formation.Attack=SovietFighter Formation.Bomber=SovietBomber Formation.Transport=SovietBomber Formation.Tank=SovietTank Formation.MobileAD=SovietAD PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL GenderRatio=0 DebriefSuccessMusic=DebriefSuccess.wav DebriefFailMusic=DebriefFail.wav DebriefKilledMusic=DebriefKilled.wav SpeechFile=USAFSpeech.cat SpeechTextFile=USAFSpeechText.str and it will work what you guys think about the islamic revolution in the 90´s in dhimar? i think would be nice to have. so we can switch aircraft or do a evil empire of dhimar just for a more colorful campaign backround possibilities and not everytime the same WAR story US/Dhimar vs Paran

Dhimar 1940s -Royal Dhimar Air Force established in 1947 with British Aid. Hand-me-down Spitfires are first active combat aircraft. 1950s 1960s -1966: Small batch of F-4C ordered as heavy strike fighter. 1970s -1970: Introduced F-4E as a heavy fighter/bomber. 1980s -1983: Ordered F-16A Fighting Falcon as light attack fighter 1990s -islamic revolution!- -1992 US Weapon Embargo 2000s 2010s 2020s Paran 1940s -Airforce established in 1949 following Parans war of independence from Dhimar and their British masters. Colourful inventory of Czech Avia S-99/199, Soviet Yak-9s and captured Dhimari/British Spitfires. 1950s 1960s 1970s -1979: Mirage F.1C interceptors ordered to counter Dhimars growing inventroy of advanced western Fast Jets. 1980s -1983: MiG-29 Ordered -1986: MiG-29 delivered -1987: MiG-29K Ordered -1987: Aircraft Carrier Ordered/build started 1990s -1991: MiG-29K Delivered -1993: opening up to the West after collapse of soviet block 2000s -J10 ordered to replace aging mirage F.1 -upgrade of older Mig-29´s to SMT Standard -2003: participate in OP Darius against IRAN 2010s -delivery of J-10 -2013: ordereing of J-31 to replace earlier Mig-29K´s 2020s

so here it is the official Start to enhance/create a belivable Dhimar and Paran Airforce from 1947 to 2020(i would suggest this timeframe for now) suggestions and Project Help is welcome, but please nothing absurd or over the top Dhimar -->European/US Tech (like Israel or Saudi Arabia) -vipers -phantoms -maybe eagles -later mirages(2000er) -?tornado? -corsair´s -sabers -intruders Paran-->Euro/Soviet/China Tech(like Iraq) -mig´s -mirage´s -early suchoi´s -alpha jet --?tornado? ... EDIT: Many modders inluding me did something for these airforces. this topic is for coordination/standardisation(decals,colors....) and upgrading old work

i´m in^^ will open a tread.

wow. had also thought about the F.1 for dhimar^^ but in paran colors it is looking really cool

bothering the Paran Airdefense^^

@soulfreak: weisst du welches hellgrau das für die nase ist beim EF bzw phantom?

ich glaub ich bin zu dähmlich. ich habe die templates von dem Huaf skin und habe gedacht ich klick die farben an die ich gegen eine andere tauschen will. nur iwi macht gimp mist. oder ich. wenn ich mitn zauberstab die fläche auswähle die ich ändern will und anschliessend die farbe wähle ist die immer dunkler*fluch* ich hasse gimp! oder stimmt was mit den templates ni? EDIT: danke für die Farbe. EDIT2: hier mal die templates: template.rar

i´m a german and i really like our Miggies it could take some time until you can fly it. because new skin had to be done with all the detail work(signs and so on) unfortunaly i have a real life :-D so it could take me 1-2months but i will post regular updates ;-)

wow. das ist sehr hilfreich *firma dankt* (mal davon abgesehen das der dat auf erzeugniss 9.13 gemalt hat.) wenn schon what if dann wenigstens so realistisch wie möglich.zumindest bei der G+^^ bei Paran Navy ist ja das ganze Land what if da kann man was mehr spinnern:-D

bzgl der decals: spitze! danke! warnhinweise usw. werden ja sicherlich wieder an den vorherigen stellen landen.^^ nun ja erstmal grundgerüst haben^^ zu den tornado´s sehen auch schon richtig top aus. freu mich auf die guten stücke ;-)

ich dank dir wie sau ;-) ich dachte mir fast das die grautöne nicht passen^^ beim €F ist es auch mehr so ein blau-grau oder? darf ich von deinem norm90 skin die decals für die Nummerierung verwenden?

also irgentwie so? was ist das dann? norm 2000?

Fragen bzgl MiG-29G+ Projekt: 1. wäre es sehr abwegig das die Miggies nach nem Upgrade ne neue Bemalung bekommen? 2.welchen Norm standard würden die dann bekommen wieder den Norm90er oder den vom EF Typhoon?