MigBuster

Have always mapped that to a JS button straight away so wont even notice when I install it later. Have you checked that key works okay in notepad or whatever?

It performed as well as it could for a first generation rear aspect missile for taking down bombers, and had some success against fighters that never saw it coming as to out turn it and remove their engine as a heat source. Still useless compared to later versions though.

Every Shahak kill is listed along with these stats on the kills: Jul 1966-Apr 1967 = 10 Cannon, 1 Yahalom Six Day War = 47 Cannon, 0.5 Shafrir1. Jul 1967 - Feb 1969 = 9 Cannon, 2 Shafrir1 Mar 1969 - Dec 1969 = 33 cannon, 1 Shafrir1, 1 AIM-9B, 8 Shafrir2. 1970 = 27 Cannon, 12 AIM-9B/D/E, 8 Shafrir2 was loads of cannon kills in 1973 also.

R.530 "Yahalom" that was it - 1 x MiG-19 destroyed by a Shahak 1966. One thing I didnt know was that the IDF used the Soviet AA-2 (R-3) from 1968 - Quite a few had been captured from Egypt air bases but no kills are recorded by them. Useful info is that the Israelis considered it to be comparible in performance to the AIM-9B which they also used at the time - but both were considered 'Superior' to the Shafrir1 which had been used in the 6 day war. from Mirage and Nesher Aces (Shlomo Aloni)

An IR missile seeker doesnt give off any IR emisions AFAIK - thats the problem. An IR missile can just "see" the heat energy given off by the aircraft - and it just follows that - it doesnt need to hit the target with any energy. Hence the only way to track it is via an advanced radar or by tracking the heat given off from the missiles engines. I think Helicopters have had IR turrets for years - one method seems to be firing a laser at the incoming missiles seeker head to confuse it. How well they work im not sure - quite a few choppers were had by MANPADs in Iraq - but not sure if they had these counter measures - or if they upgraded them to prevent more shoot downs, or the Insurgents just ran out of missiles. Now the DICM may only work well on slow moving A/C - or they may just think that Jets are better off staying above the MANPAD operational altitude instead - who knows but they dont seem to be outfitting fighters with them yet AFAIK. IRs main disadvantage is that its performance depends on the environment its operating in - ie not good looking through clouds etc. However best way to avoid modern IR missiles is probably to stay out of range.

Theres a thread here on it here to http://bbs.thirdwire.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5336 The IDF/AF defo got 1 kill with it - and they gave the missile a specific name too - will look when I get back.

Wasnt aware of the "Ford" class - do you think they will start okay in the cold http://www.janes.com/news/defence/naval/jn...80919_1_n.shtml

Nice to have a change of scenery when taking off sometimes on those long campaigns :)

You would think that it would be possible to detect and track the heat IR/UV energy given off from a missiles engines. Not sure how far it would go - you would need some kind of range finder or radar to give the distance and altitude of the incoming. Theres a bit about similar systems here: http://typhoon.starstreak.net/Eurofighter/defences.html even has a Laser Warning Receiver! theres no doubt more on the net somewhere too

Nice info and pics - cheers

It is a Vista issue which should be sorted with the next patch - in your case it sounds like the install is screwed. Had you changed anything in your original FE install before installing the Expansion Pack? I would say reinistall FE, then Exp1 then the latest Patch - backing up any changes if you want to keep them.

Theres no doubt been a few million near misses though I bet - my wingy has dropped a bomb on me before but that was my fault for ordering him to attack then diving low on the target meself :whistle2: This shows that setting up a proper coordinated attack with your wingies is not part of the game and can be ignored even by the player - tbh for years I didnt even consider that I should consider where my wingies were before attacking.

Interesting - C3 skytrain, De Hav Vampire, - and what looks that a French F-84F? - so thatll be a WOI add on then!

For WOE there are some better environment mods to improve the hopeless terrain: Green Hell 2 if your PC can handle it - get the right tiles to go with though Widesky Mod New runway textures mod Farms and forrests mod There is also a highway runway mod thats pretty relevant if you havnt got that.

does it work in a single mission? - is it just getting it in the campaign is the issue?

Mods - this is in the wrong location btw

You would need to extract all the F-16 cockpit files (bmps etc) and F-16A-Netz_cockpit.ini from object.cat in WOIs object folder Then create a folder called "cockpit" and stick the files in there - then move that cockpit folder into the plane you want to use it with. Then all you have is the avionics issue - you could just extract F-16A_Netz_Avionics from WOI also and use that - you wont get a ground radar though in WOE. Then the last issue is the F-16A pit looks nothing like an F-16C pit.

If you didnt back it up then you just need to download and reinstall it again

Lovely Job

Dont see anything wrong with your reply tbh - not sure why that red writing appeared unless its meant to be funny.

Set the "Enemy Air Activity" to light

Sensors that detect IR missiles are things only relevent to last 5-8 years (if that) or so AFAIK Adding such a thing to older jets would probably be cheating - so you may as well use external views to check nothing is creeping up on you. Dont fly in a straight line if faced with AA-2 armed Migs for too long - If you have stuck in MANPADS release flares and jink a lot when over defended areas.

Sounds like you will be enforcing a certain area around a base, checking out possible mortor firing positions, going on aggresive patrols etc - similar to what the RAF regiment do at RAF bases and a lot of them are part timers. Probably better than sitting in a guard tower waiting to be shot at - but still dangerous. But then again is there a safe job in a war zone? Well good luck