Nesher Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 patch: http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/ame...1to230.exe.html full version: http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/ame...ops230.exe.html enjoy Quote
+Fates Posted February 19, 2005 Posted February 19, 2005 It IS out...and it is Hella Koo. Try our TeamODB Server Official Honor Server at: IP: 69.25.16.179 Urban Assault We will be rotating maps every so often.... Quote
JayJay Posted February 26, 2005 Posted February 26, 2005 Today I went into your server and let me tell you I got pretty dissapointed. I got kicked just because I was hiding myself behind a nurse? I've been playing this game from the very beggining and this is a first... Quote
+Fates Posted February 26, 2005 Posted February 26, 2005 I seen that happend last night JJ, but our server does run the rule "No nurse Camping". We like to run a clean game according to the ROE listed in the game. Although it doesn't state specifically "You can't hide behind a nurse", The U.S. Army trains its military to protect civilians, not use them as shields. Your actions violated our rules, and our admin removed you from the server due to it. Fates Quote
JayJay Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 But the VIP ain't an USA soldier. So, what rules is he breaking? I just hide behind nurses to avoid detection then I move on once I get cover inside hospital. I always did this and never saw anyone complain. But ok, it's your server, your rules. Quote
+Fates Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 It is a long debated topic. But if you truely were that VIP, and these hospital workers just saved you life, would you use them as shields? They are your friendlies. They could be your mother, daughter, neighbor, etc. It's not just our server, it's every AASA server which accounts for a large percentage of the official servers. Like I said, it has been a debated topic for a long time. Some think that it's OK for Indigenous forces to act in this same manner. They say that they are not part of the US Army and don't have to follow the ROE. But if you put yourself in their shoes, they want just as much to complete the objective without harm to the civilians (friendlies) around them. Those people could be their family, neighbors, co-workers, etc.. Fact is that they are people that they do not wish harm upon, and would sacrifice themselves in an effort to save them, not cower behind them. Fates Quote
Scout_51 Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 ROE's are there for a purpose...there are numerous instances of US Troopers getting killed or abandoning a mission in order to save non-combatants,a nurse would definetly qualify as a non-combatant...even in the middle of a rather hot lz,or a firefight non-combatant casualties are avoided at all costs....if nothing else picture the reaction when buds are told one used a nurse as a shield,one would be laughed out of the bull session.... Quote
+Fates Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 My point exactly. Besides, how many other places are there beside THAT nurse that you can hide? In that map you can hide under stairs, 2nd Floor Closet, or just stay in VIP room. There are even some places just outside VIP room that are good too, like the hospital bed just outside. Maybe the reason is "TO WIN THE GAME", and yes it is a game, and that tactic will help you win points. It just won't help you win respect. Fates Quote
PG_Raptor Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Alright, I finally finished the download. I'm gonna try this out later, cause I've got some stuff to work on now. But I'll be sure to stop by the server sometime. Quote
Nesher Posted February 28, 2005 Author Posted February 28, 2005 one of the best game i have ever played so enjoy it all :) about hiding behind civies it's just a tactic, the game is very realistic but not 100%... i think they shouldn't kick for that reason... Quote
+Fates Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 about hiding behind civies it's just a tactic, the game is very realistic but not 100%... i think they shouldn't kick for that reason... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why do you think that's an appropriate tactic Nesher? Would you do that in real life? Yes it is a tactic that can be used in a game where at the end of the day nobody really dies. However, it's a simulation to teach soldiers to adhere to the ROE. The VIP may not be one of the soldiers, but if you truely were that VIP in Real life, would you stoop to that level? I hope not. Fates Quote
JayJay Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 If we're talking about real life, then maybe all players should stop doing strafe, bunny hopping or crouch-stand moves everytime anyone shoots at them, because last I knew, soldiers don't do that either. :no2: Quote
Nesher Posted February 28, 2005 Author Posted February 28, 2005 Why do you think that's an appropriate tactic Nesher? Would you do that in real life? Yes it is a tactic that can be used in a game where at the end of the day nobody really dies. However, it's a simulation to teach soldiers to adhere to the ROE. The VIP may not be one of the soldiers, but if you truely were that VIP in Real life, would you stoop to that level? I hope not. Fates <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i don't think it's that appropriate, but it's still a tactic :\ (lame one i might add, when i play Ambush hehe :)) for me it's just a fun game, soldiers are taught how to handle every situation in combat they have thier Rules of Engagement and they follow it but not anyone stick to ROE all the time, soldiers were sentensed in the past.... and probably in the future everyone has his own prespective on every situation and might react differently as well not always by the book... as far as it goes for me... i'm not VIP yet lol, when my time will come i'll let ya know buddy Quote
+Fates Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 If we're talking about real life, then maybe all players should stop doing strafe, bunny hopping or crouch-stand moves everytime anyone shoots at them, because last I knew, soldiers don't do that either. :no2: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL...Gotta agree with ya there. I've seen bunny hops that would put some olympic high-jumpers to shame...lol. They could also increase the damage done by most all of the weapons, but I'm affraid that if they did, the enjoyment of the game would go away in a heart beat. (no pun intended) Matter of fact, I think there are a few servers that run a "No-Bunny Hoping" rule. You would think that FPS developers would limit this somehow....maybe even throw in some prancy dance animation to make your character look like some frolicing princess....lol Fates Quote
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