does RWR in Strike fighters 2 detect ARH missiles like R 77 and aim 120

[debmalya]

rwrs dont seem to give any warning of r 77s and aim 120 s (fired in TWS scan mode )

making them very difficult to evade

[Wrench]

Moved to the correct Forum

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Short answer, No.

[+daddyairplanes]

that would be rather like RL. by the time your RWR is picking them up, youre pretty much out of time

while no fun in a game, the real life idea is to clobber the other guy before they even know anyone is in the area, let alone that theyre being targeted

Edited Wednesday at 06:54 PM by daddyairplanes

[debmalya]

thank you

[simonmiller416]

Well,the answer is obvious, as the two gentlemen said, no

But in the other hand , we have an MWS that can actively warning ARH missiles - Friendly AI

[debmalya]

did set up the  real life India v Pakistan air battle  this year (as much is possible )

i am from India  and was completely aghast at the crazy hyperbole /mis information war in that a short war  over Kashmir this  year

 i modeled the engagement in the mission editor  pakistan (20+ jf 17 ,10  j 10 c )_  versus ( 3 rafale , 18 su 30 ,6  mirage 2000 ) of the IAF , under cover of darkness

Pakistan  took more losses but the IAF Rafales got shot down..

since ARH   Chinese pl 12 -pl 15 missiles could not  be detected by the Rafales which i was flying  (did this happen in real  life ? )

in reality ARH seeker heads  activate 10-15 km , so 10-15 secs time should be there to evade /deploy CM s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[simonmiller416]

I think it's unfair to simulate 2020s air combat in SF2 , because it can't correctly simulate more modern devices and systems such as Datalink, MWS (missile warning system), AESA radar, so that can't accurately reference current technology and tactics.

Especially for mods, different authors will have their own set of standards, and depending on the limited OSINT available during the modding period, the data may be exaggerated or too weakened.

As a result, many situations will be completely different from reality.

So I think we should just enjoy the game. Don't worry too much about these.

Edited Wednesday at 11:32 PM by simonmiller416

[debmalya]

yes , i know  ...

i do not have access  to DCS  !!! , LOMAC flaming cliffs 2 is the best i have got , falcon bms is not user friendly /over complicated

sf2 is ideal for air combat up to early gen 4 (f 15 a, su 27b , mig 29 a, f14a  ) 80 s era late cold war

(HMD still not there , though ) !

 

 

 

[EricJ]

With SF2 you have to realize that this came out in 2008, and the last patch was 2013. Hoping for some miracle (maybe Eagle114th will find something) is just not the thing to do and expect from this game. Granted DCS came out in the same year, DCS is constantly updated, so you can have all those cool little modern toys. We're basically (those that mod it more than I ever did) playing with a 2013 level game. TK apparently finds the mobile market more profitable than SF2 ever was. So some things that you will want, just won't get with this game. unless Eagle114th figures something out.

[debmalya]

i am not a pilot , but what i understand about about flight mechanics , sf2 has a very good  flight model for a  lite flight sim

a pity the avionics  modelling  was not developed further

even a sim/game  like the novalogic f 16 (1998 ), has more depth in some areas in this respect

but sf2 series  has far better flight model/enemy AI than the nova logic games

i did simulate some engagements like mig 25 vs f 4 in SF2 series using mission editor

the outcome was very similar to the ones in the you tube channels

 using dcs

so the basic game had so much potential

a pity it was not developed further

yes the modders are incredible

some of the  new terrains are fantastic /default sf series terrain is very weak .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wrench]

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some of the  new terrains are fantastic /default sf series terrain is very weak .

We DO like our eye candy, don't we?? 

[debmalya]

Well yes

thank you Mr Wrench

thing is , there is scope for a new/improved  Ind pak terrain ...

also a decent SU 30 mki with BRahmos  missile ?

 

given the current situation , there is likely  to be further action in this area
 

[Wrench]

I was actually working on revamping the India=Pakistan terrain. With the new TOD editor, I've been thinning out the TOD buildings in the cities, and correcting the damn truck and ground attack routes (I cannot believe that I messed them up so badly!!!)

No timetable for re-release, but it'll be "sometime".

[EricJ]

I mean we can just go with 2 weeks you know...

[simonmiller416]

I once had some plans related to India on my list, but...well...