+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 I guess it's no secret that it is indeed possible to mount dual AMRAAMs on a pylon, using the LAU-105 rack (found in the WeaponsPack, but actually just for Sidewinder missiles) and with a little help from the plane's loadout file. What else would need to be done to mod the LAU-105 into a LAU-116, other than replacing the "WeaponsRackType=2IR" with "WeaponsRackType=2AR"? Quote
Guest Saganuay82 Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Is that Corsair or Crusader carrying AMRAAMs and Phoenixs? Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) Is that Corsair or Crusader carrying AMRAAMs and Phoenixs? It's a Corsair. I thought, "well, for once, screw realism." I have also to admit that I realized now that "2AR" doesn't stand for Dual AHM rack, but rather Dual ARM rack. Then again, it might not be necessary to mod an AHM rack, since proper editing of the Loadout file yields the same result... And who would not want a F/A-18 Hornet armed with 10 AMRAAMs? Edited June 24, 2007 by Gocad Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 i think the F-18 of game just carry 12 AIM-7 in 4 dual racks. What? The stock Mirage factory F/A-18 can carry either four Sparrow and two Sidewinder or two Sparrows and six Sidewinder, due to the "built-in" dual rack on the Outer Wing Station. Quote
Caveman Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 man that would be nice to have 10 or 12 slammers to kocck down some migs Quote
Guest Saganuay82 Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Weapons system testing. CANFORCE AMRAAM. You should try this. DRA_SAHM Quote
eraser_tr Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 The stock maybe, but a modded F-18, well thats another story ;) Would a phoenix even work on a corsair with its radar? it was meant specifically for the tomcat. Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) The stock maybe, but a modded F-18, well thats another story ;) Would a phoenix even work on a corsair with its radar? it was meant specifically for the tomcat. Of course not. It was just a test. Actually the Phoenix were just mounted there because another Dual AMRAAM mount looked weird, as there was not enough space for six AMRAAMs on each wing. But want I really want is this: And while there is no real dual rack for the AMRAAM available, some Loadout editing might do the trick (at least after 1991): BAM! Dual AMRAAMs on the inner wing station. The problem now is the outer wing station. I can't mount AIM-120 by default, because that would mean that I would have no A-A missiles on either wing pylon before 1991, as Sidewinders and AMRAAMs are not interchangable. Strange enough, this is not a problem with the AIM-7. These are interchangable with the AIM-120. Edited June 24, 2007 by Gocad Quote
+Crusader Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=9566& Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) Crusader, 2AR does not seem to work with AMRAAMs. I have put that in and this was the result: (Then again, there is no 2AR rack listed in the weaponsdata file and I have some trouble saving my changes...) But like I said, it's possible to load 10 AMRAAMs on a Hornet through the loadout file. You just can't do that yourself in the pre-mission loadout menu... Edited June 24, 2007 by Gocad Quote
+FastCargo Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Actually, if you do some clever ini editing, you can get 4 AIM-120s in the loadout menu for the inner stations pretty easily. Here are the following steps: First, go into your FA-18A_data.ini (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST) file, find the Weapons Stations section, note the first 2 entries: [LeftInnerWingStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB,RP,CBU,LGB,EOGB AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftPyl PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank300_F18 [RightInnerWingStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,BOMB,RP,CBU,LGB,EOGB AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF ModelNodeName=RightPyl PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank300_F18 Make a copy of this section and paste near the bottom of the Weapons Station section just before the [ECM] lines. Then change what you just pasted in so it looks like this: [LeftInnerWingAHMStation] <----- changed //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=20 <----- new number (this may be a different number than yours - just make sure the number is the next number in sequence) StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,2AR <----- changed AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftPyl LaunchRailNodeName=LAU-105 <----- line added PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightInnerWingAHMStation] <----- changed //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=21 <----- new number (this may be a different number than yours - just make sure the number is the next number in sequence) StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,2AR <----- changed AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF ModelNodeName=RightPyl LaunchRailNodeName=LAU-105 <----- line added PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 You have now created 2 inner wing AHM plyons that won't show up if you load up any other type of weapons (assuming you don't have AHM,2AR listed in any of your 4 inner wing stations). Then go up in the FA-18A_data.ini file and look for the [LeftWing] and [RightWing] entries. Look specificially at the SystemName entries. Add the following lines to the [LeftWing] and [RightWing] respectively: For the [LeftWing] SystemName[xxx]=LeftInnerWingAHMStation For the [RightWing] SystemName[xxx]=RightInnerWingAHMStation Remember, make sure the SystemName[xxx] number is the next number in sequence within the [LeftWing] and [RightWing] entries. Save the data file and close. Then (this is optional) go into your loadout.ini file and now you can add this entry: Loadout[20].WeaponType=AIM-120A Loadout[20].Quantity=2 Loadout[20].RackType=LAU-105 Loadout[21].WeaponType=AIM-120A Loadout[21].Quantity=2 Loadout[21].RackType=LAU-105 This is just so that the loadout file gives you a default. You will find that you don't have to change your loadout.ini at all if you don't want. You WILL be able to select 4 AIM-120s for the inner pylons. In fact, it looks weird if you only select 2, because now they would hang like a bomb instead of on a rail. FastCargo Quote
+FastCargo Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 After some further tweaking with the position of the new AHM racks, this is what I've come up with: Which looks like this: Compared to reality (posted by GoCad): There is clearance between the inner and outer pairs of AMRAAMs. Like I mentioned before though, you can't have only 2 AMRAAMs on the inner stations, because they'll be buried in the plyons. But it looks pretty, and is user selectable in the loadout screen! FastCargo Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 That looks great FastCargo, but some reason I don't get it to work on my Hornet, despite following your instructions... Quote
+FastCargo Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Gocad, Can you attach your FA-18A_data.ini file to your post? I'll take a look and see if I can help. FastCargo PS Actually, never mind...I've posted my data.ini as a text file...check it out... Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks. Hmm, looks like I'm not permitted to upload those files... so I just c&p my entire weapon station entries... [LeftInnerWingStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,TER,BOMB,RP,LGB,CBU,EOGB AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=LeftPyl PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank300_F18 [RightInnerWingStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,TER,BOMB,RP,LGB,CBU,EOGB AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=RightPyl PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank300_F18 [LeftInnerWingStation2] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.227,-1.3,-0.816 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2480 AllowedWeaponClass=ARM,EOGR,CGR,TLR,LGR AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=LeftPyl01 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightInnerWingStation2] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.227,-1.3,-0.816 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2480 AllowedWeaponClass=ARM,EOGR,CGR,TLR,LGR AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=RightPyl01 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftOuterWingStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.398,-1.544,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2600 AllowedWeaponClass=TER,BOMB,RP,LGB,CBU,EOGB AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=LeftOuterPyl PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightOuterWingStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 3.398,-1.544,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2600 AllowedWeaponClass=TER,BOMB,RP,LGB,CBU,EOGB AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=RightOuterPyl PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 [LeftOuterWingStation2] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.398,-1.544,-0.887 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2600 AllowedWeaponClass=ARM,LGR,CGR,SAHM,EOGR AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=LeftOuterPyl01 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 LaunchRailNodeName= [RightOuterWingStation2] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 3.398,-1.544,-0.887 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2600 AllowedWeaponClass=ARM,LGR,CGR,SAHM,EOGR AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=RightOuterPyl01 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 LaunchRailNodeName= [LeftOuterWingStation3] //SUU-63 Pylon with LAU-115A/A SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.704,-1.7,-0.727 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,90.0 LoadLimit=2600 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=LeftOuterPyl02 PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 LaunchRailNodeName= [RightOuterWingStation3] //SUU-63 Pylon with LAU-115A/A SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.704,-1.7,-0.727 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,-90.0 LoadLimit=2600 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=RightOuterPyl02 PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 LaunchRailNodeName= [LeftOuterWingStation4] //SUU-63 Pylon with LAU-115A/A SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=11 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.092,-1.7,-0.727 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,-90.0 LoadLimit=2600 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=LeftOuterPyl02 PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 LaunchRailNodeName= [RightOuterWingStation4] //SUU-63 Pylon with LAU-115A/A SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=12 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 3.092,-1.7,-0.727 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,90.0 LoadLimit=2600 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=RightOuterPyl02 PylonMass=91.4 PylonDragArea=0.03 LaunchRailNodeName= [CenterlineStation] //SUU-62 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=13 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,-0.15,-1.08 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.4,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,LP AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName=centerline PylonMass=58.97 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank300_F18 [LeftSparrowStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=4 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=-1.3,-2.418,-0.95 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [RightSparrowStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=4 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=1.3,-2.418,-0.95 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.5,0.0 MissileRollAngle=45.0 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=500 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,EP,AHM AttachmentType=NATO,USN MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [LeftSidewinderStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=16 StationGroupID=1 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=-5.974,-2.57,-0.293 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,90.0 LoadLimit=500 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName= PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.005 [RightSidewinderStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=17 StationGroupID=1 StationType=SEMI_RECESSED AttachmentPosition=5.974,-2.57,-0.293 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,-90.0 LoadLimit=500 DiameterLimit=0.3 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=NATO,USN ModelNodeName= PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.005 [LeftInnerWingAHMStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=18 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,2AR AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftPyl LaunchRailNodeName=LAU-105 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 [RightInnerWingAHMStation] //SUU-63 Pylon SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=19 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 2.227,-1.3,-0.725 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-1.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2280 AllowedWeaponClass=AHM,2AR AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF ModelNodeName=RightPyl LaunchRailNodeName=LAU-105 PylonMass=123.8 PylonDragArea=0.03 I know that the additional stations work, because I can mount AMRAAMs, but just two and not four.... 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+Crusader Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) Crusader, 2AR does not seem to work with AMRAAMs. I have put that in and this was the result:http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3339/nopeat8.jpg (Then again, there is no 2AR rack listed in the weaponsdata file and I have some trouble saving my changes...) But like I said, it's possible to load 10 AMRAAMs on a Hornet through the loadout file. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1713/10120nm2.jpg You just can't do that yourself in the pre-mission loadout menu... ohhh yessss.....it is. there is no stock dual AHM rail in game.... of course... how to do... 1. make a copy of the stock LAU-105 dual irm rail 2. rename the the type and full name to whatever you like , e.g LAU-105AHM ( the type name is used for preset loadouts int he RackType= line inthe loadout.ini) 3. change the rack type from 2IR to 2AR. 4. Save. in the plane data.ini, make sure the AllowedWeaponClass= Line has the AHM and 2AR entries. The hornet pic in the thread linked above is using exactly this, but I used the old DRA_IRM rack lod since no stock LAU-105 was available back then Edited June 24, 2007 by Crusader Quote
+FastCargo Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Okay, this is going to sound really stupid, but I happened to find this in my Weaponsdata.ini: [WeaponDataxxxx] TypeName=LAU-105A FullName=LAU-105 AHM Rack ModelName=LAU-105 Mass=73.029999 Diameter=0.100000 Length=2.800000 AttachmentType=NATO,USAF,USN NationName=USAF StartYear=0 EndYear=0 Availability=2 BaseQuantity=4 Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=0 ExportEndYear=0 ExportAvailability=2 WeaponDataType=6 WeaponsRackType=2AR NumWeapons=2 LoadLimit=300.000000 LengthLimit=4.000000 MaxFuelAmount=0.000000 Attachment01Position=0.282000,0.000000,-0.020000 Attachment01Angle=0.000000,0.000000,-5156.620156 Attachment02Position=-0.282000,0.000000,-0.020000 Attachment02Angle=0.000000,0.000000,5156.620156 It looks like a post weaponspack release addon...simply making a 2AR version of the LAU-105. Maybe this is the problem? Maybe try adding this to your weaponsdata.ini, then use the weapons editor in the standard way. I can't see anything wrong with your hardpoints as they stand right now. I forgot this entry was in my weaponsdata.ini...so this is maybe what is allowing me to select 4 AMRAAMs. FastCargo Quote
+Gocad Posted June 24, 2007 Author Posted June 24, 2007 It looks like a post weaponspack release addon...simply making a 2AR version of the LAU-105. Maybe this is the problem? Maybe try adding this to your weaponspack.ini, then use the weapons editor in the standard way. I can't see anything wrong with your hardpoints as they stand right now. I forgot this entry was in my weaponspack.ini...so this is maybe what is allowing me to select 4 AMRAAMs. FastCargo I guess so. I put that modded LAU-105 into the weapondata and now it works. Thanks guys! Quote
+Crusader Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 ah yea... while converting the stock LAU-105 rack, increase the LoadLimit to 150 kg ... already done int he data postwed by FastCargo above... slammers are heavier than SW's Quote
+EricJ Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Actually I came up awhile ago with a more cheaper dual AMRAAM rack. I got the original max file as well (was saved in MAX9). Quote
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