Carrier Won't Appear in WoE campaign

[bcyc 18]

Hi all-

 

I have a standalone installation of WoE. I do not own WoV or SF. Is WoV necessary to play a carrier-based campaign? The reason I ask is I followed to a tee the procedure for adding carriers to a default campaign, using the 3rd party Ark Royal instead of the Coral Sea. When I attempt to fly a mission my plane is parked in the middle of the ocean - where the carrier should be but with no carrier present. I tried several other things to no avail - other 3rd party models, the Coral Sea (which is included in WoE). Nothing works, same symptoms each time. Same thing happens when attempting to use carrier-based 3rd party campaigns on 3rd party maps. To my knowledge I am not missing anything. I checked that I had everything necessary. Interestingly, though, single missions with carrier ops do work. Any ideas? I've searched several forums for answers. I have the latest patch installed. Thanks!

[+Gocad 26]

It would be easier to see what is wrong if one could take a look at your modified campaign_data file.

 

Btw, you did add a carrier station to the GermanyCE_targets file, right?

[+Typhoid 231]

also check the Ark Royal ini file. Is it updated to the sp4? that sounds like the problem.

[+Gocad 26]

also check the Ark Royal ini file. Is it updated to the sp4? that sounds like the problem.

 

I don't think that the Ark Royal is the problem. I once had played around with a campaign using the GermanyCE terrain and had no problems to put in the Ark and fly off it.

 

What bcyc described sounds in fact like what happens when you made a mistake with the carrier number (i.e. they don't match). Perhaps that could be it.

[+Hinchinbrooke 36]

Ark Royal was built before the last couple of patches. I'm in the process of partially rebuilding her/adding details for an updated file, but until then, make sure that these lines are present in the Ark Royal configuration.ini :

 

[GroundObjectData]

ObjectFullName=HMS Ark Royal

ObjectDataFile=ArkRoyal_data.ini

 

Also, is WoE set-up for carrier activity? The reason I ask is that Ark Royal is assigned to the "Royal Navy". If the "Royal Navy" isn't listed in the game's nations.ini, then it won't show up.

Edited November 8, 2007 by Hinchinbrooke

[bcyc 18]

also check the Ark Royal ini file. Is it updated to the sp4? that sounds like the problem.

 

 

That appears to be it. I got the Tarawa to work, but when I simply swap in the Ark Royal it stops working. What do I need to change in the ini file?

[bcyc 18]

Ah, just saw your post. I'll try that and let you know. Thanks.

[+Gocad 26]

Also, is WoE set-up for carrier activity?

 

Absolutely. And the Ark Royal works just fine.

 

[+Typhoid 231]

Absolutely. And the Ark Royal works just fine.

 

 

yup. Have several missions built for it and am working on adding it to some of the WOE campaigns.

 

hadn't caught the nations bit, thanks Hinchinbrooke

Edited November 9, 2007 by Typhoid

[Gambler 0]

If you get a carrier into the stock WOE 1979 campaign, can you post the coordinates for others to use? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

I'd like to put a US carrier into the campaign, but I have no idea as to where I'd have to put it on the map...knowing my luck, it would end up sailing down the Rhine or the A6 autobahn. I'm going to use a WOV carrier (merged install) and use the appropriate F-4's from in-game.

[+Gocad 26]

If you get a carrier into the stock WOE 1979 campaign, can you post the coordinates for others to use? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

I'd like to put a US carrier into the campaign, but I have no idea as to where I'd have to put it on the map...knowing my luck, it would end up sailing down the Rhine or the A6 autobahn. I'm going to use a WOV carrier (merged install) and use the appropriate F-4's from in-game.

 

Add this to the GermanyCE_targets.ini:

 

[TargetArea335] <- numbers should match, unless you have added other target areas.

Name=November Station <- that's the base name used in the campaign, feel free to change them if you want

Position=250000.00,800000.00

Radius=5657

ActiveYear=0

Location=13

Alignment=FRIENDLY

CarrierStation=TRUE

 

[TargetArea336]

Name=Tango Station

Position=280000.00,835000.00

Radius=5657

ActiveYear=0

Location=13

Alignment=FRIENDLY

CarrierStation=TRUE

 

And while you're at it, add this line to GermanyCE_Nations:

 

Location013=North Sea

 

Doing so will give you two carrier stations in the North Sea, off the West German coast.

Saratoga is at Tango station, November station is southwest of it.

Edited December 10, 2007 by Gocad

[Gambler 0]

Much thanks, Gocad!

 

I have no idea as to where coordinates are on the game map, so this will help me out immensely in my quest to be a USN fighter pilot versus the Red Horde....

[+christian59 8]

thank you work fine

 

please could you have soviet carrier position

 

thank you

[FastCargo 412]

Actually, if you just use Kreelin's Mission Editor (located here at Combatace) you can open up a terrain file. It will show the map of the terrain. Just run the crosshairs over the location you want the carrier.

 

The coordinates will show up (I think at the bottom) on the editor. Write those coordinates down.

 

Done! You now have the coordinates to place your carrier.

 

Also, look at these threads carefully if you want to add carriers in the future. It's actually easy if you can handle a text editor.

 

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=12137 <---- Knowledge base thread

 

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=19550 <---- Another example using WOE terrain

 

FastCargo

[+christian59 8]

thank you very much

[+christian59 8]

a little problem

 

when a go on the position of the CV i can't find it

in the map i find the CV and his plane group

 

thank you

[Wrench 9,847]

You DO have a carrier in you /groundobjects folder, right??

 

Did you add the carrier to the WoE_Types.ini????

 

Wrench

kevin stein

[hide86 0]

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showt...mp;#entry115490

 

check my last post, might have found out something new and undetected , care to check anyone? :scout:

 

Cheers!

hide86

[+Typhoid 231]

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showt...mp;#entry115490

 

check my last post, might have found out something new and undetected , care to check anyone? :scout:

 

Cheers!

hide86

 

not sure what you mean by undetected. That is how it works. Squadron numbers have to match.

[+christian59 8]

ok i don't have carrier in the WoE_Types.ini

it's a long way ........................

[+Gocad 26]

check my last post, might have found out something new and undetected , care to check anyone? :scout:

 

No, you didn't.

 

Also, here's the WOEcampaign2 ('79 - Red Lightning), modded to include carrier-based units.

 

[CampaignData]

...

 

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

//---- NATO Air Units

 

[uSAFAirUnits]

...

 

--- USN Carrier-based Units

[AirUnit030]

AircraftType=FA-18A

Squadron=VFA15

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

DefaultTexture=VFA15

StartNumber=0

BaseArea=November Station

CarrierBased=TRUE

CarrierNumber=66

BaseMoveChance=0

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=16

StartAircraft=16

MaxPilots=16

StartPilots=16

Experience=100

Intelligence=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

MissionChance[sWEEP]=60

MissionChance[CAP]=0

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20

MissionChance[ESCORT]=40

MissionChance=60

MissionChance[CAS]=20

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=20

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=20

MissionChance[RECON]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

Supply[001].WeaponType=Tank300_F18

Supply[001].Quantity=240

Supply[002].WeaponType=Mk84

Supply[002].Quantity=640

Supply[003].WeaponType=AGM-65D

Supply[003].Quantity=640

Supply[004].WeaponType=ASQ-173

Supply[004].Quantity=40

Supply[005].WeaponType=LAU-61C_Mk66_M229

Supply[005].Quantity=480

Supply[006].WeaponType=AIM-9M

Supply[006].Quantity=960

Supply[007].WeaponType=AIM-7M

Supply[007].Quantity=640

Supply[008].WeaponType=AGM-45B

Supply[008].Quantity=240

Supply[009].WeaponType=GBU-16

Supply[009].Quantity=240

Supply[010].WeaponType=MK82SE

Supply[010].Quantity=640

Supply[011].WeaponType=ALQ-99-L

Supply[011].Quantity=40

Supply[012].WeaponType=CBU-87

Supply[012].Quantity=480

Supply[013].WeaponType=WalleyeI_34

Supply[013].Quantity=240

 

[AirUnit031]

AircraftType=F-14A

Squadron=VF41

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

DefaultTexture=VF41

StartNumber=0

BaseArea=November Station

CarrierBased=TRUE

CarrierNumber=66

BaseMoveChance=0

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=12

StartAircraft=12

MaxPilots=12

StartPilots=12

Experience=100

Intelligence=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

MissionChance[sWEEP]=90

MissionChance[CAP]=20

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=60

MissionChance[ESCORT]=90

MissionChance=0

MissionChance[CAS]=0

MissionChance[sEAD]=0

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0

MissionChance[RECON]=40

UpgradeType=NEVER

Supply[001].WeaponType=AIM-7P

Supply[001].Quantity=960

Supply[002].WeaponType=AIM-54C

Supply[002].Quantity=960

Supply[003].WeaponType=AIM-9M

Supply[003].Quantity=720

Supply[004].WeaponType=Tank330_F14

Supply[004].Quantity=240

Supply[005].WeaponType=ASQ-173

Supply[005].Quantity=40

Supply[006].WeaponType=GBU-16

Supply[006].Quantity=640

 

[AirUnit032]

AircraftType=F-14A

Squadron=VF84

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

DefaultTexture=VF84

StartNumber=25

BaseArea=November Station

CarrierBased=TRUE

CarrierNumber=66

BaseMoveChance=0

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=12

StartAircraft=12

MaxPilots=12

StartPilots=12

Experience=100

Intelligence=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

MissionChance[sWEEP]=90

MissionChance[CAP]=20

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=60

MissionChance[ESCORT]=90

MissionChance=0

MissionChance[CAS]=0

MissionChance[sEAD]=0

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=0

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=0

MissionChance[RECON]=40

UpgradeType=NEVER

 

[AirUnit033]

AircraftType=FA-18A

Squadron=VFA87

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

DefaultTexture=VFA87

StartNumber=25

BaseArea=November Station

CarrierBased=TRUE

CarrierNumber=66

BaseMoveChance=0

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=16

StartAircraft=16

MaxPilots=16

StartPilots=16

Experience=100

Intelligence=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

MissionChance[sWEEP]=60

MissionChance[CAP]=0

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=20

MissionChance[ESCORT]=40

MissionChance=60

MissionChance[CAS]=20

MissionChance[sEAD]=30

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=20

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=20

MissionChance[RECON]=0

UpgradeType=NEVER

 

 

[RAFAirUnits]

...

 

//----- Carrier-based Unit (Used for testimng purposes)

[AirUnit042]

AircraftType=Spitfire Mk22

;AircraftType=F-4M

Squadron=92RAF

ForceID=1

Nation=RAF

DefaultTexture=887

;DefaultTexture=RAFCamo1

StartNumber=0

BaseArea=Tango Station

CarrierBased=TRUE

CarrierNumber=9

BaseMoveChance=0

RandomChance=100

MaxAircraft=16

StartAircraft=16

MaxPilots=16

StartPilots=16

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=50

MissionChance[sWEEP]=20

MissionChance[CAP]=60

MissionChance[iNTERCEPT]=60

MissionChance[ESCORT]=0

MissionChance=30

MissionChance[CAS]=30

MissionChance[sEAD]=20

MissionChance[ARMED_RECON]=50

MissionChance[ANTI_SHIP]=40

MissionChance[RECON]=40

UpgradeType=NEVER

Supply[001].WeaponType=UK500LB

Supply[001].Quantity=2880

Supply[002].WeaponType=UK1000LB

Supply[002].Quantity=480

Supply[003].WeaponType=Tank370_F4

Supply[003].Quantity=480

Supply[004].WeaponType=Tank600_F4

Supply[004].Quantity=240

Supply[005].WeaponType=AIM-9L

Supply[005].Quantity=480

Supply[006].WeaponType=Skyflash

Supply[006].Quantity=480

Supply[007].WeaponType=Matra-155

Supply[007].Quantity=480

Supply[008].WeaponType=SUU23

Supply[008].Quantity=16

Supply[009].WeaponType=AVQ-23

Supply[009].Quantity=12

Supply[010].WeaponType=GBU-10C

Supply[010].Quantity=80

Supply[011].WeaponType=GBU-12B

Supply[011].Quantity=160

 

[GAFAirUnits]

...

 

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

//---- WP Air Units

 

[WPAirUnits]

....

 

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

//---- NATO Ground Units

 

[NATOGroundUnits]

...

 

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

//---- WP Ground Units

 

[WPGroundUnits]

...

 

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[CarrierUnit001]

CarrierType=CVA-63

CarrierNumber=66

UnitName=CV-66 America

ForceID=1

Nation=USN

BaseArea=November Station

NumSquadron=5

BaseSize=MEDIUM

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

 

[CarrierUnit002]

CarrierType=ArkRoyal

CarrierNumber=9

UnitName=HMS Ark Royal

ForceID=1

Nation=RoyalNavy

BaseArea=Tango Station

NumSquadron=1

BaseSize=Medium

Experience=100

Morale=100

Supply=100

 

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[strategicNodes]

....

 

Of course, I have only listed here those line I have added to the campaign. It works and it should give anyone trying to add carriers to a WOE campaign and idea what it should look like.

Edited December 13, 2007 by Gocad

[+christian59 8]

hello

 

my 79 tomcat campaing work well i start in flight

 

but when i start on carrier or go back they is no carrier in the area

 

 

give my carrier back

 

thank you

[+Gocad 26]

Do you have a carrier in your groundojects folder now?

 

Why don't you post the lines of your campaign_data file here, so that other could have a look at it.

 

Just the carrier revelant data, that is carrierUnits and carrier-based airunits. That would make it easier to determine what could be wrong there.

[+christian59 8]

here they are

and i have carrier in my groundobject folder

 

thank you

[+Gocad 26]

Hmmm, interesting campaign. There seems to be nothing worng with the carrier placement, but what strikes me as odd is how you added additional units. Sure, it's a PITA do add additional units since you have to check the AirUnit number order, but adding them after the stock units, especially when mixing friendly and enemy forces had caused trouble in my campaigns. Thus I am curious whether you could launch a campaign with a French or USAF unit that is listed after the WP units.

 

Also, UnitID refers to the AirUnit number and those do not match in your campaign.ini