BUFF 8 Posted March 3, 2008 The number of aircraft permanently assigned to the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center at NAS Fallon will increase from 42 to 46 when the first of four new aircraft, an E-2C Hawkeye that features a massive radar dome attached to its upper fuselage, arrives here Wednesday. A second Hawkeye will arrive in several weeks to be followed by an F/A-18E/F Super-Hornet and an MH-60S Seahawk helicopter, according to NSAWC spokesman Chief Jeff Wells. The permanent stationing of the four aircraft at NSAWC is part of an ongoing plan to upgrade training at the warfare center and populate its flightline with more current and updated aviation platforms, Wells said. In the past, Hawkeyes have been temporarily stationed at NSAWC to serve as training platforms when Carrier Air Groups were present. With the arrival Wednesday of the first Hawkeye and the subsequent arrival of the second Hawkeye, both airplanes will become "valuable, full-time, permanent assets at NSAWC that will enable pilots and aircrews to utilize them on an uninterrupted, daily basis," Wells added. The E-2 Hawkeye is the Navy's all-weather, carrier-based, tactical battle management airborne early warning command and control aircraft. A twin-engine turboprop aircraft that has a crew of five and is easily recognized by the 24-foot diameter radar rotodome attached to its fuselage, the Hawkeye also is used for search and rescue coordination and communications, surface surveillance coordination and close air support. The planes cost $80 million each, have a maximum speed of 350 knots and a range of 1,500 nautical miles. The Hawkeye also is used by U.S. law enforcement agencies for drug interdiction operations and is in the inventories of the militaries of China, France, Greece, Israel, Japan, Egypt and Singapore. The Hawkeye arriving here Wednesday will come from Patuxent River, Md., where it has been used as a test aircraft for VX-20. The second Hawkeye will come from Norfolk, Va., where it has been assigned to VAW-120, Wells said. The F/A-18 Superhornet and MH-60S helicopter are expected to arrive in the fall, he added. The four new airplanes will be utilized by the TOPGUN school, the Carrier Airborne Early Warning Weapons School and other pilot training programs that compose the NSAWC curriculum. The aircraft will be used particularly in tactics development and the assessment of new war-fighting technologies, according to Cmdr. Richard Weathers, department head at Carrier Airborne Early Warning Weapons School. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted March 3, 2008 The number of aircraft permanently assigned to the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center at NAS Fallon will increase from 42 to 46 when the first of four new aircraft, an E-2C Hawkeye that features a massive radar dome attached to its upper fuselage, arrives here Wednesday. A second Hawkeye will arrive in several weeks to be followed by an F/A-18E/F Super-Hornet and an MH-60S Seahawk helicopter, according to NSAWC spokesman Chief Jeff Wells. The permanent stationing of the four aircraft at NSAWC is part of an ongoing plan to upgrade training at the warfare center and populate its flightline with more current and updated aviation platforms, Wells said. In the past, Hawkeyes have been temporarily stationed at NSAWC to serve as training platforms when Carrier Air Groups were present. With the arrival Wednesday of the first Hawkeye and the subsequent arrival of the second Hawkeye, both airplanes will become "valuable, full-time, permanent assets at NSAWC that will enable pilots and aircrews to utilize them on an uninterrupted, daily basis," Wells added. The E-2 Hawkeye is the Navy's all-weather, carrier-based, tactical battle management airborne early warning command and control aircraft. A twin-engine turboprop aircraft that has a crew of five and is easily recognized by the 24-foot diameter radar rotodome attached to its fuselage, the Hawkeye also is used for search and rescue coordination and communications, surface surveillance coordination and close air support. The planes cost $80 million each, have a maximum speed of 350 knots and a range of 1,500 nautical miles. The Hawkeye also is used by U.S. law enforcement agencies for drug interdiction operations and is in the inventories of the militaries of China, France, Greece, Israel, Japan, Egypt and Singapore. The Hawkeye arriving here Wednesday will come from Patuxent River, Md., where it has been used as a test aircraft for VX-20. The second Hawkeye will come from Norfolk, Va., where it has been assigned to VAW-120, Wells said. The F/A-18 Superhornet and MH-60S helicopter are expected to arrive in the fall, he added. The four new airplanes will be utilized by the TOPGUN school, the Carrier Airborne Early Warning Weapons School and other pilot training programs that compose the NSAWC curriculum. The aircraft will be used particularly in tactics development and the assessment of new war-fighting technologies, according to Cmdr. Richard Weathers, department head at Carrier Airborne Early Warning Weapons School. if anyone is not sure - these are what are referred to as REAL AIRPLANES!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted March 3, 2008 if anyone is not sure - these are what are referred to as REAL AIRPLANES!! Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda... Look up the definition of 'flare' will ya? FastCargo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted March 3, 2008 Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda... Look up the definition of 'flare' will ya? FastCargo never heard of it. Is that some sort of wimpy land-based manuever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted March 4, 2008 It's what you're supposed to be wearing on your uniform, but what you don't have enough of. So, I'm gonna need you to come in at 9 am...on Sunday...that would be great... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted March 4, 2008 never heard of it. Is that some sort of wimpy land-based manuever? Yeah...usually requires precision flying. That's why the Navy doesn't do them... FastCargo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Typhoid 231 Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) Yeah...usually requires precision flying. That's why the Navy doesn't do them... FastCargo description of landings; Air Force - eases down the glideslope precisely on center-line, on glide slopes, on-speed and "over the numbers". Eases over the threshold, gently slows while flaring over the extended length of the runway, gently kisses the concrete with the tires and airbrakes down the runway and eases into the last turn off at the far end of the runway without disturbing the wine glasses in 1st Class..... Navy (ashore landing) smashes into the runway precisely "on the numbers" with various, assorted parts and fillings jarred loose compressing the heavy-duty shocks deeply into the wing roots. Screeching, smoking brakes rapidly slows the machine to make the first turn off with unsecured items in the cockpit finding new locations throughout. Navy (afloat) precise approach, on-speed, on glide path (ball) smashes firmly into the deck at the precisely targetted point and grabs the wire coming to a "brisk" stop with various loose items departing over the side....... which is why the Air Force calls landing practice "touch and goes" while the Real Pilots in the Navy call them "crash and dashes" nice description of the differences between USAF flying and USN flying.... USN or USAF? by Bob Norris Bob Norris is a former Naval aviator who also did a 3 year exchange tour flying the F-15 Eagle. He is now an accomplished author of entertaining books about US Naval Aviation including "Check Six" and "Fly-Off". In response to a letter from an aspiring fighter pilot on which military academy to attend, Bob replied with the following. 12 Feb 04 Young Man, Congratulations on your selection to both the Naval and Air Force Academies. Your goal of becoming a fighter pilot is impressive and a fine way to serve your country. As you requested, I'd be happy to share some insight into which service would be the best choice. Each service has a distinctly different culture. You need to ask yourself "Which one am I more likely to thrive in?" USAF Snapshot: The USAF is exceptionally well organized and well run. Their training programs are terrific. All pilots are groomed to meet high standards for knowledge and professionalism. Their aircraft are top-notch and extremely well maintained. Their facilities are excellent. Their enlisted personnel are the brightest and the best trained. The USAF is homogenous and macro. No matter where you go, you'll know what to expect, what is expected of you, and you'll be given the training & tools you need to meet those expectations. You will never be put in a situation over your head. Over a 20-year career, you will be home for most important family events. Your Mom would want you to be an Air Force pilot...so would your wife. Your Dad would want your sister to marry one. Navy Snapshot: Aviators are part of the Navy, but so are Black shoes (surface warfare) and bubble heads (submariners). Furthermore, the Navy is split into two distinctly different Fleets (West and East Coast). The Navy is heterogeneous and micro. Your squadron is your home; it may be great, average, or awful. A squadron can go from one extreme to the other before you know it. You will spend months preparing for cruise and months on cruise. The quality of the aircraft varies directly with the availability of parts. Senior Navy enlisted are salt of the earth; you'll be proud if you earn their respect. Junior enlisted vary from terrific to the troubled kid the judge made join the service. You will be given the opportunity to lead these people during your career; you will be humbled and get your hands dirty. The quality of your training will vary and sometimes you will be over your head. You will miss many important family events. There will be long stretches of tedious duty aboard ship. You will fly in very bad weather and/or at night and you will be scared many times. You will fly with legends in the Navy and they will kick your ass until you become a lethal force. And some days - when the scheduling Gods have smiled upon you - your jet will catapult into a glorious morning over a far-away sea and you will be drop-jawed that someone would pay you to do it. The hottest girl in the bar wants to meet the Naval Aviator. That bar is in Singapore. Bottom line, son, if you gotta ask...pack warm & good luck in Colorado. Banzai PS: Air Force pilots wear scarves and iron their flight suits. LCDR Kevin "Proton" McLaughlin Navy Senate Liaison Office Edited March 4, 2008 by Typhoid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
