Su-27 Family WIP

[Erwin_Hans 6]

 

Yesterday..........I got this... Su-27SM/Su-27SMK

 

This will be next project

 

and Information about it?

 

I need differences between Su-27 and Su-27SM.

Edited March 14, 2009 by Erwin_Hans

[+Spectre_USA 7]

It's a target?

 

 

Sorry, just tryin' to help...

[Kobalt 0]

It's a target?

 

Nope, you are! :yes:

[SayethWhaaaa 245]

The SM has a new FCS, newer flt-by-wire, newer multimode digital computer, full glass cockpit using colour, not monochrome displays, it's supposed to be using the Lyulka AL-35F engines, but I'm not 100% on that as I've heard that they initially were supposed to be engined with the AL-31FPs that the Su-30s use. It's supposed to be using the Phazotron N010 Zhuk-27 radar as well, but the VVS is keen on upgrading most Su-27s to use the passive electronic scanned arrays (depending on availability of funding). A lot of the systems used in the Su-27SM upgrade were more recent variants systems tested in the Su-35, but because of the scarcity of funding and the staggered implementation of upgrades (and new technology), it's hard to tell. Plus there's an Su-27SKM (SMK?) that uses a few different systems again...

[+Spectre_USA 7]

Nope, you are! :yes:

 

Oh, touché!

 

You've been waiting weeks to say that, haven't you?

 

[+X RAY 83]

do the terminator su 37 please first!or the su 35 (su 27M) with canards you can do it both,the 2 ver has only one big difference,tvc on the 37!ssu 27 m or sk are most closer (externally to the 27 and chinese 27) do something new!!!

[Erwin_Hans 6]

do the terminator su 37 please first!or the su 35 (su 27M) with canards you can do it both,the 2 ver has only one big difference,tvc on the 37!ssu 27 m or sk are most closer (externally to the 27 and chinese 27) do something new!!!

 

You know.........adding a canard is not a hard work :yes:

[+X RAY 83]

you do it with j-10! remember the squared rudder tips the lack of pitot tube and so on...go with the 35 without tvc,you can add the simple bort blue 710 camo(identical to a normal 27-not splintered) with black anti glare and it's done-i think in 2 days somebody do a sort of tvc and a new skin for the 37 and 2 models with less stress!!!I'll send you photos of 35 via PM if you want

[Erwin_Hans 6]

you do it with j-10! remember the squared rudder tips the lack of pitot tube and so on...go with the 35 without tvc,you can add the simple bort blue 710 camo(identical to a normal 27-not splintered) with black anti glare and it's done-i think in 2 days somebody do a sort of tvc and a new skin for the 37 and 2 models with less stress!!!I'll send you photos of 35 via PM if you want

 

 

It's my view.....Two Flankers,one Cockpit

Edited August 1, 2008 by Erwin_Hans

[kukulino 1]

We need wait for lindr2. He is on vacation I think. He knows more about Su-27 versions :yes:

[Erwin_Hans 6]

you do it with j-10! remember the squared rudder tips the lack of pitot tube and so on...go with the 35 without tvc,you can add the simple bort blue 710 camo(identical to a normal 27-not splintered) with black anti glare and it's done-i think in 2 days somebody do a sort of tvc and a new skin for the 37 and 2 models with less stress!!!I'll send you photos of 35 via PM if you want

 

 

 

And..........XRAY,you will like this.........

 

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557]

I like this!!!

[+Brain32 265]

Su-37 Terminator will never be produced, it's a demonstration aircraft only. What will be produced are two "Super Flankers".

The starting point is/will be what I know as Su-27SM2 with greatly improved avionics, new cockpit, 3D thrust vectoring, new more powerfull engines L-41F, new monster radar. This version will be for Russian Airforce only.

Other derivative will be Su-35BM, pretty much everything the same as Su-27SM2 but with reduced radar capatibilities, probably with lesser avionics package and maybe even a bit less powerful engines(2D thrust vectoring only???).

Su-27SM2 has no canards, IRST is moved to the left and there are two ECM bulges on leading edge slats on the wing, there are some more stuff probably but I can't remember it now, Su-35 will look the same but I've read that canards will be available to the buyer as an option.

In recent accident I lost over 100 of my aviation bookmarks, I had data, cockpits,drawings pictures, all lost now.

However if you give me some time I'll try to find and post some detailed drawings/pictures.

 

Thx for doing this

[+X RAY 83]

And..........XRAY,you will like this.........

 

 

Yes SIR! 5 birds in a row!su-35 bm su-27M(35-canard) su-27SK su-37 and su-33!!!!!!this is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Erwin_Hans 6]

Su-37 Terminator will never be produced, it's a demonstration aircraft only. What will be produced are two "Super Flankers".

The starting point is/will be what I know as Su-27SM2 with greatly improved avionics, new cockpit, 3D thrust vectoring, new more powerfull engines L-41F, new monster radar. This version will be for Russian Airforce only.

Other derivative will be Su-35BM, pretty much everything the same as Su-27SM2 but with reduced radar capatibilities, probably with lesser avionics package and maybe even a bit less powerful engines(2D thrust vectoring only???).

Su-27SM2 has no canards, IRST is moved to the left and there are two ECM bulges on leading edge slats on the wing, there are some more stuff probably but I can't remember it now, Su-35 will look the same but I've read that canards will be available to the buyer as an option.

In recent accident I lost over 100 of my aviation bookmarks, I had data, cockpits,drawings pictures, all lost now.

However if you give me some time I'll try to find and post some detailed drawings/pictures.

 

Thx for doing this

 

Thanks.......

 

 

But......are you sure that Su-35BM and Su-27SM2 are not one aircraft....

 

Any news?

 

 

And I'v got a pic form google earth show the Russian Knights equiped a Su-27 with canards.So,that must be Su-35(T-10M]?!

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557]

Sure... not really I thought they were two different?! mh ok I learn every day new things!

[+X RAY 83]

Check your PM!!!

[Erwin_Hans 6]

 

I'd like this pit................

[+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557]

Yeah great Erwin goes under the pitmaker!! Cool and good work!

[kukulino 1]

I'd like this pit................

Edited August 1, 2008 by kukulino

[Canadair 16]

wow

[Caesar 305]

Wow definately! I can't believe how quickly you guys are putting this stuff together. Keep up the good work!

[Silverbolt 104]

Wow!

very nice man!

 

btw, any chance to this in a near future?

Edited August 1, 2008 by Silverbolt

[+X RAY 83]

Wow!

very nice man!

 

btw, any chance to this in a near future?

this is the 35 bm pit,I've provide Erwin most stuff of 27M(35) and 37 pit I think is still working on now!This is working!long life to in sky team!

[i90807065 0]

And..........XRAY,you will like this.........

 

http://forum.combatace.com/uploads/1217292...83_198_1227.jpg

 

HES NOT ALONE!!!!! YELLOW SQN SKIN+ (above pic)= AWESOME!!!

 

Also, The Russian Knights got a Su-35??? EVEN MORE AWESOME!!!

Edited August 2, 2008 by i90807065