Hauksbee 103 Posted April 17, 2009 'Been at it for twenty minutes, and every time, it wants to slide off on one wing [right or left] just before it gets to the top of the arc. This may be an exercise in futility since the E.III can't catch anything anyway, but someday I may get to pounce on a cripple limping home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted April 17, 2009 Make sure you have picked up as much speed as possible before trying the loop or Immelman. Your climb angle is probably also important. Has anyone else been able to do these maneuvers in an EIII? If not, maybe the devs would consider moving the center of gravity on the EIII slightly aft to perhaps improve its climbing/looping ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted April 17, 2009 May help.. http://www.furball.warbirdsiii.com/krod/ACM-immelman.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hauksbee 103 Posted April 17, 2009 My Word. . but, you've a been terror ever since you discovered the presence of a cockpit Nothing and nobody is more passionate than a convert! I had my computer techs put together a 3D-modeling/animation system for me about four months ago. I don't have the spec. sheet in hand, but it's either the Core 2 Quad, or the Core 2 Duo [i suspect the latter] that I'm running with 64-bit Vista and 8 Gb RAM. So I think the computer will put the E.III over the top if the E.III is up to it. My version of an Immelman? Basically the Split-S but going vertical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted April 17, 2009 Yep, the Immelmann can be done with it. Nose dive some 30°, until you don't gain much speed anymore, and then pull up hard., to finish the half loop as quick as possible. Give counter rudder against the side, she wants to drift sidewards to; but careful! That's it; the roll-round is easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster89 0 Posted April 17, 2009 Well I know you can do Immelmann's Immelmann turn very easily in an E.III. I use it all the time. Immelmann turn from 1918 aviators handbook- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WW1Immelmann.jpg -Rooster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameljockey 3 Posted April 17, 2009 Very different from what is called an "Immelman" today. Maybe that's why the EIII doesn't like it much. CJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hauksbee 103 Posted April 17, 2009 Yep, the Immelmann can be done with it. Well, it did it. Up and over. I tried repeatedly to do it from the cockpit, but it kept sliding off on one wing. I changed to my old fave: the tail-chase view. The first thing I found out was that my Logitech stick doesn't move the rudder except for the most miniscule amount. [as opposed to the DH-2, and others, where it moves a great deal.] Horizontal elevators move well. While in tail-chase I tried again. This time it went. I suspect it worked because I had a better view of the horizon and was holding the stick steady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted April 18, 2009 The link I posted explains at the top a modern Immelmann is a half loop and roll, then nearer the bottom it explains the original WW1 that Immelmann did is a high energy pass, pull up some and already be using rudder to come back down, i.e. maybe a 1/4 of a loop, maybe roll a little too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuba2 1 Posted April 18, 2009 Well I know you can do Immelmann's Immelmann turn very easily in an E.III. I use it all the time. Immelmann turn from 1918 aviators handbook- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WW1Immelmann.jpg -Rooster Rooster89 & Cameljockey have the correct Immelman for WWI. So I believe it is very do able in OFF and there is less of a problem with carburetion since you don’t invert. :yes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
