Olham 164 Posted May 22, 2009 Albatros D.III (Oef) 153.198 Flik 3J, june 1918 used by Oblt.Friedrich Navratil, who won a first victory of his unit on this plane. After a crash and reparation in august, the aircraft was flown by Stfw.Otto Forster and Kpl.August Korkisch. Found here: http://www.fortunecity.com/campus/depaul/953/kam/oef.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Prop-Wasche 7 Posted May 22, 2009 Nice camo markings! Would be nice to have as a skin in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 22, 2009 Yes, I still hope, that the OEFAG Albatros will be available for us in OFF. But maybe it only flew at the other fronts, not on the Western front? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OvS 8 Posted May 22, 2009 Yes, I still hope, that the OEFAG Albatros will be available for us in OFF.But maybe it only flew at the other fronts, not on the Western front? Yes, the Oefag Alb only flew on the East front. I asked Pol about making one and he said it could be done, but it's way, way in the back of the shed. OvS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted May 23, 2009 The Oeffag (Österreichische Flugzeugfabrik AG) Albatrosses were also used on the Italian front. For example the most successful Austrian ace, Godwin Brumowski (35 confirmed kills plus many others which were not confirmed, because the planes went down behind enemy lines) used the Oeffag Albatros. It was actually a better fighter than the German version, faster and more robust with stronger lower wings. Too bad for the pilots of the Luftstreitkräfte that the Germans didn't bother to learn lessons from the Austrian engineers. Maybe the D.V could have been a much better scout if the Oeffag improvements had been used in it. (Though it's a good enough scout for me in OFF, my most successful career pilot so far is using the D.V!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peeppu 207 Posted May 23, 2009 Albatros 153.198 with engine No. 19382 was delivered in march 1918 to Flik 17, in may flew this Albatros Feldwebel Johann Skvor and after it handed over to Flik 3J. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peeppu 207 Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) The Oeffag (Österreichische Flugzeugfabrik AG) Albatrosses were also used on the Italian front. Not only on the Italian fornt, but also on the eastern front (already in summer 1917 D.II Oeffag got to Fliks 3, 14, 20, 22, 25 and 37 in Galicia on the Russian front) and in Albania as well. In postwar service served Albatros Oeffag in many countries (e. g. Czechoslovakia, Poland). Edited May 23, 2009 by Peeppu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 23, 2009 Thanks, OvS. I understand it's not important for us, as it didn't fly on the Western front. Yes, Hasse Wind, it is unbelieveable, that the German production kept building the weaker versions, instead of learning from the Austrians. It seems, that their DIII was even good enough until the end of the war. What a fighter the D Va could have been... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted May 23, 2009 wip 253.. yeah just for relaxation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hauksbee 103 Posted May 23, 2009 wip 253.. yeah just for relaxation... Well, that raises the bar! (LOL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stumpjumper 3 Posted May 23, 2009 bless you sniff sniff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 23, 2009 Wow; looking great, Pol. Now we must only research for a Jasta, that got Austrian Albatros delivered by mistake, or as a present or what ever. Or an Austrian unit operating at the western front. If we'd just find some - like the Tripe with twin guns also was rare - that would be fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted May 24, 2009 Phase 4 will have the Italian front included, right Pol? And then we get to fly that Austrian Albatros... Olham, I suspect the reason why the Germans didn't learn lessons from the Austrian Oeffag may well have something to do with arrogance. It wasn't at all uncommon among German military and political circles to despise the Austrians and everything they represented, so the guys at Albatros may have thought there's nothing we can't do better than our little cousins the Austrians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted May 24, 2009 It wasn't that bad, it seems, Hasse Wind From what I read, it was mainly IDFLIEG's failure - they had only done little testing on the new Albatros D V, and the prototype D IV even used wings of Albatros D II. So nobody seems to have realised the weak points . The stronger engine and higher speed of the D V made the structural weakness of the lower wing now a real danger; at the front, first wing breaking happened. This was fatal on such a craft, and now the Germans even thought about switching back to the production of the more stabile Albatros DIII (and maybe even to the Austrian wing solution). But the "Amerikaprogramm" of the German forces requested higher production numbers of fighter craft, to catch up with the Entente. Albatros had a production already running, and a change of the aircraft's structure and wings would have thrown the production too far back. So stabilising changes were only made at the fields. That was mainly a little strut from the front edge of the lower wing to the Wing strut - this was a good improvement. Apart from that, hopes were now set on Fokker's new productions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Polovski 460 Posted May 24, 2009 The skin is just one I plucked to check mapping etc it's not a correct skin - I leave the research and skinning to Shred and the skinners. It is for fun as it's not a huge amount of work to convert so far, and we may have no squad we can put it in anyway. We shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites