thewoo1 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Reading a book on the red baron from the twenties..said his trophies were in his mothers house.. where are they now? particularly the cups...and part of hawkers plane canvas.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Beard 14 Posted August 29, 2009 Seems to me I read somewhere that they where "lost" when the Russians invaded Germany in WWII. Anyhoo, they supposedly taken by the Russians. They are probably safe somewhere in a private collection. Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted August 29, 2009 Rumor has it, that underwater there is tons of Nazi Gold still today, but where ??? People are always searching for treasures. But what would you do, if you had lots of gold? Sink it in a lake? Or put it into bank safes in Switzerland? There are treasure maps from the old pirates. Many people searched and still search for them. But why should they still be there? If I had been a British king or queen, when those maps first appeared, I would have sent out the right men to bring those treasures home. Robert Louis Stevenson wrote the book "Treasure Island". He was from a familiy of engineers; they built lots of lighthouses for Britain. When you search for a treasure, it would be good to have engineers on board. And when the treasures are yours, you hand the maps out to the world again, to wipe out the traces, that could lead to you. People love secrets. Secret maps. Ideas of treasures. But treasures rarely ever get lost from those, who are the mighty ones. Just an idea... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted August 29, 2009 I think maybe MK2 is on the trail of MvR's trophies and that one day we will click on a post and there it will all be. That would be exciting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasse Wind 46 Posted August 30, 2009 The Nazis dumped a lot of stuff, including counterfeited pounds worth over 100 million, into the Austrian lake of Toplitzsee at the end of the war. It's rumoured there is plenty of plunder at the bottom of that same lake, possibly even the Imperial Russian Amber Room, which the Germans removed from the Soviet Union during Barbarossa. Who knows what could be found from such remote locations of Europe. But the Baron's cups are probably in some private collection, or in several collections. It's of course possible the robbers didn't know what they were taking and so the cups have never been sold together. They may not even exist any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameljockey 3 Posted August 30, 2009 Some of the Baron's things are at the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre, including 2 of his silver cups. One is #11 which was the one for Lanoe Hawker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted August 30, 2009 Someone must have given some Russian a good amount of money then, I guess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted August 30, 2009 Searching for trophy pics, I found this great site: www.jasta5.org And there was a pic of a trophy, Jasta 5 made for MvR. http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jasta5.org/Jagdstaffeln_5/images/misc/MvRTrophy.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jasta5.org/Jagdstaffeln_5/red_baron_j5_history.htm&usg=__uAY-k9LbI02sncnvBTi3_LShAk0=&h=2816&w=2112&sz=528&hl=de&start=32&tbnid=LvvvLfQFHSAp8M:&tbnh=150&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTrophy%2Bvon%2BRichthofen%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted August 30, 2009 UncleAl, Germany isn't on the dark side of the moon - of course do I know "Keely's Heroes" ! And of course I liked it!! Clint Eastwood, Donald Sutherland and Telly Savallas in best form! "Stosstrupp Gold" in Germany (Raiding patrol Gold). My dad, when he was alive, was in the cinema twice with me to see it once again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites