Southside Bucky 1 Posted September 3, 2009 Hi guys. All German early two seaters looked the same, right? Well that's a simplification, but it's true that some of them were very similar in shape. After some research, checking out all the German two seater, 'Windsock Datafiles', I realised that by using the A-Team's excellent add on Aviatik C.II (which is actually a C.I, BTW), you can utilise it as both an LVG C.II, and a very passable Albatros C.III. For those that don't know how it's done, follow these steps VERY carefully, otherwise they won't show in-game: 1. Make a copy of the Aviatik C.II folder, then rename it; LVGCII 2. Rename the Aviatik DATA.INI from AviatikCII_DATA, to; LVGCII_DATA 3. Rename the Aviatik Config file from AviatikCII, to; LVGCII 4. Open the newly named Config file, then either copy and paste or edit with the following: [AircraftData] AircraftFullName=LVG C.II AircraftShortName=LVGCII AircraftDataFile=LVGCII_data.ini CockpitDataFile=AviatikC2_cockpit.ini HangarScreen=Aviatik_Hangar.bmp LoadoutFile=AviatikC2_loadout.ini LoadingScreen=Aviatik_loading.bmp (Make sure you delete the original text this has just replaced) 4. Open the LVGCII_DATA.INI and replace the 'MissionData' section with this: [MissionData] NationName=GERMANY ServiceStartDate=07/1915 ServiceEndDate=05/1916 AircraftRole=ATTACK AircraftCapability=DAY Availability=VERY_COMMON Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear= ExportAvailability= PrimaryRoles=CAS,STRIKE,ARMED_RECON,RECON SecondaryRoles= NormalMissionRadius=210 MaxMissionRadius=250 Ceiling=4500.0 MinBaseSize=SMALL HasRadio=FALSE (Again, make sure to delete the original text section.) Now, the next part is up to you, but I decided to allow this plane only one colour scheme. The most accurate, as far as I'm concerned is the skin titled 'Orange Square'. I deleted all the others. By doing this, it sets the plane apart from the Aviatik (so long as you don't use 'Orange Square' for the Aviatik, of course!). Finally, run the game to make sure your new LVG C.II shows up in the 'Available Aircraft' menu. If you want to fly it, an optional 'extra' would be to find a 1024 X 768 bitmap picture of an LVG C.II, rename it; Aviatik_Loading, and you'll have a nice loading screen for it too. I haven't done that because I only use these two seaters as AI. Follow the same steps to create the Albatros C.III, but replace the 'MissionData' text in the DATA.INI with: [MissionData] NationName=GERMANY ServiceStartDate=12/1915 ServiceEndDate=03/1917 AircraftRole=ATTACK AircraftCapability=DAY Availability=VERY_COMMON Exported=FALSE ExportStartYear= ExportAvailability= PrimaryRoles=CAS,STRIKE,ARMED_RECON SecondaryRoles= NormalMissionRadius=210 MaxMissionRadius=250 Ceiling=4500.0 MinBaseSize=SMALL HasRadio=FALSE IMO, the Aviatik skin that best suits the Albatros C.III, is either 'Alb' or Rumpler clv, so again, you might want to delete all the other skins, like I did. And as I said previously: Make sure that the Aviatik's default skin is different from both the Albatros and LVG. I thank you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A6Intruder 1 Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) Hi my friend! that is a nice addon with low cost. Very easy steps to follow. Thanks for that. Best regards PS: If you have some good pictures or much better paintings for some nice loading screens, it would be very appreciated. Edited September 3, 2009 by A6Intruder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southside Bucky 1 Posted September 3, 2009 You could use this one for the Albatros: http://www.the-vaw.com/desktops/alba_desktop.jpg Remember to convert it from a jpeg to a bitmap first though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A6Intruder 1 Posted September 3, 2009 You could use this one for the Albatros: http://www.the-vaw.c...lba_desktop.jpg Remember to convert it from a jpeg to a bitmap first though. Thats exactly what i am looking for. Thanks. Best regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted September 3, 2009 Interesting idea Bucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southside Bucky 1 Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) The A-Team's Halberstadt D.III can also be used to create a Halberstadt D.II, and the Halberstadt D.V. Using different skins sets each variant apart: Use skins; 'Jasta 1' or 'Boelcke' for the D.II. DATA.INI changes: ServiceStartDate=06/1916 ServiceEndDate=04/1917 Use 'Jasta 11' for the D.III. DATA.INI changes: ServiceStartDate=06/1916 ServiceEndDate=04/1917 Use 'Jasta 22' or maybe 'Jasta 5' for the D.V. DATA.INI changes: ServiceStartDate=07/1916 ServiceEndDate=05/1917 The Martinsyde G100 Can also be turned into the Martinsyde Elephant. DATA.INI changes: ServiceStartDate=06/1916 ServiceEndDate=12/1917 Regards. Bucky Edited September 5, 2009 by Southside Bucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southside Bucky 1 Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) On a related note, I just thought I'd let you know that I've uploaded a couple of new 'PropLoop' sound files. One of which is intended to be used with early war a/c like the LVG C.II and Albatros C.III. Get 'em here: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=9806 Edited September 4, 2009 by Southside Bucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Bucky, I've searched here at CA, but cannot find any Aviatik skins you recommend nevermind, found them, thanks again, off to clone Edited September 4, 2009 by Stary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A6Intruder 1 Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) A little helping hand for lazy boys like me: I copied Buckys words to my folders and was wondering why the Albatros and the Halberstadt did not appear in game. I found the solution: It has to be: HalberstadtDII not Halberstadt D.II, same with AlbatrosCIII not Albatros C.III, without spaces and dot. Best regards Edited September 4, 2009 by A6Intruder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsawan 624 Posted September 7, 2009 Hi, regarding the martin elefant, I chgd service dates and cannot get the 2 seater version to show, just single seat. Does this entry need to be chgd as well and the first 3 lines under aircraft data? Hope you can help. i got the LV one to show up only. [AircraftData] AircraftFullName=LVG C.II AircraftShortName=LVGCII AircraftDataFile=LVGCII_data.ini CockpitDataFile=AviatikC2_cockpit.ini HangarScreen=Aviatik_Hangar.bmp LoadoutFile=AviatikC2_loadout.ini LoadingScreen=Aviatik_loading.bmp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southside Bucky 1 Posted September 7, 2009 Hi Dsawan. The Martinsyde G100 and Martinsyde Elephant were basically the same aircraft. That is, both single seaters. The only difference between 'em was the Elephant had a slightly more powerful engine. Personally, I didn't change their horse power ratings because I only use those a/c as AI. If you or anyone else feel like changing that, I can tell you that the G100 was rated at 120hp, and had a top speed of 95mph. The G102 (Elephant) was fitted with a 160hp engine, and had a top speed of 102mph. Just for the record, here's both complete 'Mission Data' sections. As you can see, the only difference is the service dates. G100: [MissionData] NationName=RAF ServiceStartDate=03/1916 ServiceEndDate=06/1917 AircraftRole=ATTACK AircraftCapability=DAY Availability=COMMON Exported=FALSE ExportStartDate=06/1916 ExportAvailability=RARE PrimaryRoles=RECON,ARMED_RECON,CAS,STRIKE SecondaryRoles=SWEEP,ESCORT,CAP,INTERCEPT NormalMissionRadius=50 MaxMissionRadius=100 Ceiling=4810.0 MinBaseSize=SMALL HasRadio=FALSE Elephant: [MissionData] NationName=RAF ServiceStartDate=06/1916 ServiceEndDate=12/1917 AircraftRole=ATTACK AircraftCapability=DAY Availability=COMMON Exported=FALSE ExportStartDate=06/1916 ExportAvailability=RARE PrimaryRoles=RECON,ARMED_RECON,CAS,STRIKE SecondaryRoles=SWEEP,ESCORT,CAP,INTERCEPT NormalMissionRadius=50 MaxMissionRadius=100 Ceiling=4810.0 MinBaseSize=SMALL HasRadio=FALSE Regarding your problems getting the Albatros C.III to show in game, all I can say is make sure your text matches PRECISELY...Watch the spacing in particular. For example, the actual aircraft folder should be: AlbatrosCIII Not: Albatros C.III Hope that helps. Bucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Dora 171 Posted September 12, 2009 IMO, the Aviatik skin that best suits the Albatros C.III, is either 'Alb' or Rumpler clv, so again, you might want to delete all the other skins, like I did. And as I said previously: Make sure that the Aviatik's default skin is different from both the Albatros and LVG. Interesting idea, SB, but I'm a wee bit confused about the alternative skins reference because as far as I can see, the A-Team's Aviatik CII model comes with only one skin, and I can't seem to find alts in the CombatAce downloads section. Where can one find the other skins that you refer to, Orange Square, Alb, Rumpler etc? Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southside Bucky 1 Posted September 12, 2009 You had me going there, Mike! Thought I was going of me nut! For some inexplicable reason they've been put in the 'Add-On Planes' Section. Here ya go: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=4955 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
