cptroyce 0 Posted January 17, 2010 Olham - >> "Moxie" ??? << Thirites American slang = "Balls, Guts, the right stuff" '>) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 17, 2010 Ahhh!!! Yes, I see what you mean - although I much prefer them without balls! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted January 17, 2010 Moxie is an old amaerican saying meaning to me: guts, courage, that "something special" or toughness. Today in our course lingo we my say "balls". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 17, 2010 Well...I'm sorry guys..but the only reason I can see why these women took to flying is a) They could'nt get laid b) They were the 'butch' ones in a Lesbian Relationship c) They were trying to get away from Sqdn Cmdr Lord Flasheart! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted January 17, 2010 Pucker up, here comes the bull! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 17, 2010 Well, at least none of them needed to fresh up their flavour with SPITFIRE beer, like some people I know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dej 17 Posted January 17, 2010 Hold on there Olham , discussion (howsoever chauvinistic) about women is all very well but don't bring a fine bitter into the argument. Besides, after several pints of Spitfire even the first picture of Ms. Beinhorn (which really doesn't do her justice) would seem that of a goddess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 17, 2010 Okay, I never tried that beer - but if it's as good as the fighter of the same name, it would be nice to continue our debate over a couple of pints of it. Haha! Rickitycrate, I just noticed your new signature! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabu 9 Posted January 17, 2010 Pancho Barnes was probably one of the most interesting woman flyers to have ever lived.. a stunt pilot, flyer in the movie "Wings" friend of actors and actresses and astronauts, she lived a full and reckless life. One of the computers at Nasa even has her name on it. "The Happy Bottom Riding Club" her air field and Oasis in the desert was notorious for the parties given by her "stable" of girls and her own hosting of her guests. Here's Hollyweird's version of Pancho: And here is the most flattering photo I could find of her in real life: Here's a good bio on her (click) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 17, 2010 Geeze - next to Calamity Jane! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyby PC 23 Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Stumbled across another bit of trivia regarding women pilots. Bit off topic, but only just... You know in the film Tora, Tora, Tora, there's a female civilian instructor who finds her lesson interrupted by the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour? Well, that was real. Her name was Cornelia Fort, and she returned to the mainland later to join the Women' Auxiliary Ferrying Squadron, as the name suggests ferrying military aircraft, and sadly becoming the first female service aviator to be killed when her plane collided with another. (The collision wasn't her fault). Looks aside, the history of aviation is dotted with gutsy young women, often giving their lives as duty required, but rarely given a level playing field with us men. Over Stalingrad in WW2, the Polikarpov Po2 biplanes flying harrassment bombing raids were often piloted by women. The Po2's top speed was less than 100mph, slower than many WW1 aircraft, and often they switched off the engine to approach in silence so there was no warning. The Germans had lots of names for the aircraft, sewing machines, the duty corporal, and such like. (Need to read Beevor's Stalingrad again...) but the women pilots were called Nachthexen, or night witches. The 588th Night Bomber Regiment was the most decorated unit in the Russian Air Force. Edited January 17, 2010 by Flyby PC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickitycrate 10 Posted January 17, 2010 Olham, that sig came from a strange interaction in the Aerodrome Games/Sims forum. I was told I could not have an opinion about OFF because I had not tried some other sim. Yep, I'm out there pimpin' OFF. Tom Cruise should have played Pancho IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 17, 2010 Christ, you can learn a lot here. Thanks to Flyby PC I found the "Nachthexen" in Wikipedia! Here is the only photo - Miss Raskowa, the Madam Mim of Russia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster89 0 Posted January 18, 2010 No way! Im with Flyby on this one. Harriet Quimby gets my vote hands down. Did you guys even see her??? -Rooster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) Why do they all look like up and coming East End Boxers or Cage Fighters? (the Russian one looks like she would last at least six rounds with Mike Tyson....perhaps took time off from her Russian Olympic Powerlifting Career) I am surprised that the Human Race continued to thrive during the 20's and 30's if this lot were the only skirt on offer!! WOOF WOOF This is my idea of a female pilot or two! (ok, so they are possibly posing Porn Stars in reality...but I can dream....... Edited January 18, 2010 by UK_Widowmaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 18, 2010 Lucky Brasil! (Sigh! ...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 18, 2010 If you type in "female pilots ww2" in Google picture search, you get these and many more. And if they don't look like models - well, they weren't. They were pilots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 18, 2010 Lucky Brasil! (Sigh! ...) Now THAT's More like it!...yummy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted January 18, 2010 Joking aside!...I have the utmost respect for the Female Pilots of those early years!..In a sexist, male dominated workplace, they had to be twice as good than their Male counterparts to even get an opportunity to fly at all! (and the 'Ferry pilots' who were female, delivered Spitfires and Hurricanes to RAF stations during the Battle of Britain, to free up Male pilots to fly in Combat, are of particular note...and my respect goes to them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six 2 Posted January 18, 2010 Lucky Brasil! (Sigh! ...) Hmm. I'll show you I'm Australian if you show me your brazilian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scouseair68 0 Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) Maybe not the prettiest, but possibly the most dangerous was Lidya "Lilya" Vladimirovna Litvak, the "White Rose of Stalingrad" who died in action with a final talley of 12 solo and 3 shared victories. So beware Widow.....some of these ladies have a real sting. This search produced several good links with a lot of information: My link Edited January 18, 2010 by Scouseair68 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olham 164 Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) Indeed, Widowmaker. Okay, here is an Australian for checkSix, and a Kiwi lady to tease him. (Jean Burns, Amy Johnson, Jean Batten). And a (cute) Chinese jet fighter pilot. Edited January 18, 2010 by Olham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itifonhom 6 Posted January 18, 2010 Well, Amy Johnson gets my vote!! And the Brasilian of course!!! Anastasios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites