su-25 easy question

[Guest rscsjsuso5]

today their has been small news of this aircraft in screenshots section and also in mod section. is the aircraft a wip,beta, no yet ,released and if not yet where can we get it to fix it up offer suggestion. haven't heard of any progress report or even a screen for long time.

 

thanks so much

[+Soulfreak 6,506]

there are some SU-25 WIP.

one early beta (not flyable) is in NF4+.

Edited January 25, 2010 by Soulfreak

[Guest rscsjsuso5]

thanks so much u mean c5's nf4 package for series 1 or 2 can u direct me to link or area of info .

 

thanks

[+Soulfreak 6,506]

there is only one NF4+ out.

check the download section.

[Stick 773]

very flyable but you cant get rid of the Drop tanks in series 1.

[Guest rscsjsuso5]

thanks all

[+Soulfreak 6,506]

Stick, try to add ravenclaws PTB800 Droptanks for Gen1 to add! ;)

 

http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=6976

Edited January 25, 2010 by Soulfreak

[Stick 773]

Thats cool but the Drop tanks that are part of the aircraft lod file dont come away when jettisoned

Edited January 25, 2010 by Stick

[Slartibartfast 153]

That Su-25 in NF4+ is very flyable in SF2... been having a hoot of a time with it... all bombs and rockets...

[Guest rscsjsuso5]

i just want to say again thanks all now i'm going to fly the su25 and 39 side by side port to sfp1 for personal use.also it would be helpful if someone would give a even more deeper description of nf4+ and compare it to the original series 1, would like to have a description like c5's site .

Edited January 25, 2010 by rscsjsuso5

[Wraith27 6]

It is very easy to remove drop tanks from 3D model for SF2 to use it in SF1 : http://forum.combatace.com/topic/47586-sf2/ Hope You understand it When I found some time I post this trick in english

[Stick 773]

[LeftWing]

...

SystemName[006]=Pylon4

SystemName[007]=Pylon5

SystemName[008]=Pylon3_tank <---------- dodajemy linijkę

SystemName[009]=Pylon5_tank <---------- dodajemy linijkę

 

[RightWing]

...

SystemName[006]=Pylon8

SystemName[007]=Pylon9

SystemName[008]=Pylon6_tank <---------- dodajemy linijkę

SystemName[009]=Pylon8_tank <---------- dodajemy linijkę

 

Następnie w sekcji uzbrojenia dodajemy te 4 pylony:

 

[Pylon3_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=11

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.989,-1.066,0.34

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1080

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=LeftWingTankOut

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

[Pylon5_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=12

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-2.255,-0.585,0.307

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1200

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=LeftWingTankIn

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

[Pylon6_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=13

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=2.255,-0.585,0.307

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1200

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=RightWingTankIn

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

[Pylon8_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=14

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.989,-1.066,0.34

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1080

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=RightWingTankOut

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

I TO WSZYSTKO !!!

 

Jak zauważyliście w sekcję "LaunchRailNodeName=" wpisałem nazwy zbiorników z modelu 3D i teraz gra traktuje je jak rail'e -ponieważ "AllowedWeaponClass=" jest puste to żadne uzbrojenie nie uaktywni naszych pylono-zbiorników i będą one zawsze niewidoczne!!!

 

Teraz pozostaje tylko dodać zbiorniki paliwa w klasyczny sposób czyli użyć jakiś innych typów.

 

PRZYPOMINAM o konieczności edycji wszystkich plików *.ini i zapisania ich w kodzie ANSI !!!!

 

Pozdrawiam!!!

do you comment out the said lines or add them?

Edited January 26, 2010 by Stick

[Wraith27 6]

Ok! The problem is that model for SF2 has the drop tanks as integral part of LOD file. In result the drop tanks are always visible in SF1 series. How to fix this problem? It's very easy:

 

We must set this drop tanks as a "rails". For examlple for Su-25:

 

In data.ini file we find a wings sections and add new systems for each of them:

 

[LeftWing]

...

SystemName[006]=Pylon4

SystemName[007]=Pylon5

SystemName[008]=Pylon3_tank <---------- add this line

SystemName[009]=Pylon5_tank <---------- add this line

 

[RightWing]

...

SystemName[006]=Pylon8

SystemName[007]=Pylon9

SystemName[008]=Pylon6_tank <---------- add this line

SystemName[009]=Pylon8_tank <---------- add this line

 

Next in the weapon section add this 4 pylons :

 

[Pylon3_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=11

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-3.989,-1.066,0.34

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1080

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=LeftWingTankOut

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

[Pylon5_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=12

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=-2.255,-0.585,0.307

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1200

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=LeftWingTankIn

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

[Pylon6_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=13

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=2.255,-0.585,0.307

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1200

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=RightWingTankIn

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

[Pylon8_tank]

SystemType=WEAPON_STATION

StationID=14

StationGroupID=6

StationType=EXTERNAL

AttachmentPosition=3.989,-1.066,0.34

AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0

LoadLimit=1080

AllowedWeaponClass=

AttachmentType=

ModelNodeName=

PylonMass=86.18

PylondragArea=0.02

LaunchRailNodeName=RightWingTankOut

LaunchRailHeight=0.24

 

And thats all!!

 

As You can see in "LaunchRailNodeName=" section I write the names of the drop tanks which I found in OUT file. Since "AllowedWeaponClass=" section is empty none weapon "enable" our "rails". Now we must add some new tanks in clasic SF1 way.

[FastCargo 412]

There is a much faster, shorter way to hide parts.

 

Go into the data.ini and go to the [Component] section, add lines like this:

 

Component[010]=HidePart1

etc, etc

 

Then, farther down the data.ini, insert something like this for each part you want to hide:

 

[HidePart1]

ParentComponentName=FakeFuselage <---- This can be named anything as long as it's not part of the model

ModelNodeName=RightWingPylon <---- Part you want to hide

DestroyedNodeName=RightWingPylon <---- Part you want to hide (Same as previous line)

DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE

HasAeroCoefficients=FALSE

 

That's it...now you're not taking up WeaponGroup slots and they always stay deleted.

 

FC

Edited January 26, 2010 by FastCargo

[Wrench 9,795]

Yes, bpao's "hiding component trick". documented in several other threads, and used on LOTS of aircraft. One just need to LOOK at the data ini, and understand the statements. Not hard at all.

 

wrench

kevin stein

[Stick 773]

Works like a charm....MANY MANY THANKS...this is like a pandora's box

Edited January 27, 2010 by Stick

[mono27 84]

The Su-25 is cool! I downloaded it from NF4+. I will try to make it flyable but only for my own use.

If anybody did it before...does it works right in SFP1 or WoE ??

 

I hope so

[Guest rscsjsuso5]

to mono27 the su25 wirks well looks at screenshots in general discussion section i posted it with drop tank fix works so well maybe i will make a mission like a su25 and su39 flying together. http://forum.combatace.com/topic/33627-screenshot-thread/page__view__findpost__p__380744 enjoy

[Stick 773]

mono27-see fastcargo's post

[mono27 84]

Well, when I read this post i tought that the Su-25 in NF$+ was AI only (non flyable), but now i see that it is FLYABLE, great! and also it has a very good cockpit, so i don't change anything about this plane, except the problem with the fuel tanks. Finally, now i have it working in WoE.

 

The only problem is that i can fly it no more than 2 or 3 times (missions) after that the game usually shut down and goes back to windows. It never happened before or with any other aircraft, only with the Su-25. Anybdody knows how to solve this problem??

 

Thanks for that nice model, now I am waiting for the Yak-38 "Forger", anybody knows anything about that project?