AIM-9E vs Mig-21

[Jaman]

Hello. Im playing a full patched Wings over Vietnam with the excelent "Air & Ground Expansion Pack". Im flying a F-4C with the 555th Triple Nickel. Thing is, im having quite a lot of trouble to score any hit with the AIM-9E Sidewinder against Vietnamese Mig-21. They are not even tracking, no matter what. I have tried firing them from different distances (i used to fire them against Mig-17 from between 0.5 and 0.8 miles with acceptable efficency) and different situations (many G´s, few G´s, straight) but to no avail, even when the 21 doesnt break the missile just go down and explode. And yes, im getting a good tone before firing. Also i heard about how the ground (IRL) could affect the heat-seeking sensor so i have manouvered to get a shoot against a climbing target, still the same results.

 

I know those missiles sucked, pretty bad. But i dont get why they were working against the Frescos but wont even track against Fishbeds. So if any of you could give me an advice, i would be thankfull.

[+RAVEN]

Have you tried a different AIM? Like a AIM-9E2 or a -9L, See if they work any better

[Jaman]

Have you tried a different AIM? Like a AIM-9E2 or a -9L, See if they work any better

 

Its late 1966, i only have B or E.

[Muesli]

Hahaha, in that time span; lose the IRMs and use guns!

[Jaman]

Hahaha, in that time span; lose the IRMs and use guns!

 

F-4C, no internal guns. Flying from Udon Airbase most missions involving aircombat are escorting the F-105, so i need the three fuel pods.

 

EDIT: Although the two missions where i could use the SUU16 i blasted two 17´s with it.

Edited June 12, 2010 by Jaman

[+Gepard]

Not only the growling of the seeker is important. You must be in fire envelope (not to far, not to close), what means behind the enemy plane with less or no deflection angle. Do not move the stick while firing procedure, the old AAM does not like it. And then hope and pray. In reality the AIM-9B scored only 9% of all shots, The E was a little bit better.

Edited June 12, 2010 by Gepard

[Jaman]

Thank you. Ill try to be more picky at shooting, take a few seconds before i decide to fire to be sure im in the most optimal position.

[Guest flavius_opium_maccus]

Hello. Im playing a full patched Wings over Vietnam with the excelent "Air & Ground Expansion Pack". Im flying a F-4C with the 555th Triple Nickel. Thing is, im having quite a lot of trouble to score any hit with the AIM-9E Sidewinder against Vietnamese Mig-21. They are not even tracking, no matter what. I have tried firing them from different distances (i used to fire them against Mig-17 from between 0.5 and 0.8 miles with acceptable efficency) and different situations (many G´s, few G´s, straight) but to no avail, even when the 21 doesnt break the missile just go down and explode. And yes, im getting a good tone before firing. Also i heard about how the ground (IRL) could affect the heat-seeking sensor so i have manouvered to get a shoot against a climbing target, still the same results.

 

I know those missiles sucked, pretty bad. But i dont get why they were working against the Frescos but wont even track against Fishbeds. So if any of you could give me an advice, i would be thankfull.

 

Try be more patient and wait for ...the right moment to fire (as you know it I guess, you need a CONSTANT "tone" before firing wiht that...."faulty" equipment (aka AIM-9E sidewinder). I learnt that in time, too. Now when I remember what I thought then , I laugh up my ass. I thought at first it's something very wrong with the game ...lol

[Jaman]

I doesnt suprise me to see them failing. I already knew how bad they were way even before i put my hands on Wings over Vietnam. What suprised me is how bad they work against Mig-21, since i didnt have so many problems against the 17´s.

[Derk]

F-4C, no internal guns. Flying from Udon Airbase most missions involving aircombat are escorting the F-105, so i need the three fuel pods.

 

EDIT: Although the two missions where i could use the SUU16 i blasted two 17´s with it.

 

 

How about having the F 105's escorting the F 4's ? (wouldn't be astonished someone suggested that in those days....)

 

Hou doe,

 

Derk