+quack74 329 Posted June 22, 2010 I dont know when it happened but I just recently realized in FE2, I lost my water effects. I'm using Jan Tumas terrains and I have my water settings to "High" in options menu. How do I get the water effect back? I dont know how I lost it but mybe someone can point me in the right direction to turn it back on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandy 3 Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) I lost water animation on installing Tuma's terrain as well. If you have FE backed up elsewhere it is easy to find the relevant bits of code to re-install. In fact, I posted on this subject in Jan's terrain release thread (the really long one) when it came out. EDIT from earlier post: This reanimates the water, though I noticed there are some z-buffer water artifacts in Flanders when flying along the coast. It is only a slight PITA, and have not spent time trying to correct it further, yet. ...futzed about with old ini's and got the water moving and looking better. Not perfect, but better. Works good in Vogesen thus far, don't know yet about the others, but should be fine AFAIK. If interested try this in each terrainDATA.INI (includes Stary's tweaks for convenience) apologies for my code comments, I suppose everybody has their own style. The code line following //Stock is the baseline, which is also commented out // followed by the effective change and whitespace to easily find each of them. . . . [WaterTextureMaterial] UseEffectShader=TRUE EffectShaderName=WaterEffect2.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=FALSE RenderedInOrder=TRUE AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE //STOCK //CullMode=NO_CULL CullMode=CLOCKWISE LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=TRUE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 SpecularColor=1.000000,1.000000,0.900000,1.000000 SpecularPower=1.000000 //STOCK //ZBufferOffset=4.000000 ZBufferOffset=6.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=2 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=FALSE //TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE //STOCK //TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE //STOCK //TextureStage[02].TextureName= TextureStage[02].TextureName=ref_color.bmp TextureStage[02].MipMap=FALSE //TRUE TextureStage[02].FilterEnabled=TRUE //STOCK below --other INI's have no ReflectionMapping //TextureStage[02].ReflectionMapping=TRUE //STOCK //TextureStage[02].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_BLEND_TEXTURE_ALPHA TextureStage[02].StageColorOp=TEXTURE TextureStage[02].StageAlphaOp=DIFFUSE [solidObjectTextureMaterial] DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=TRUE AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 ZBufferOffset=0.000000 //STOCK //BlendOp=BLEND_DST_ALPHA BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE [AlphaObjectTextureMaterial] DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=FALSE RenderedInOrder=false AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.00000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.00000 ZBufferOffset=2.000000 // STOCK BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE //FALSE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE //STOCK //TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE //STARY's Suggestion follows... TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE_BLEND_TEXTURE_ALPHA Fade=NORMAL StartFadeDistance=50.0 EndFadeDistance=50.0 . . . Edited June 22, 2010 by Bandy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+quack74 329 Posted June 23, 2010 Wow Bandy, thanks for the detailed response. But.... I tried pasting what you have above into my Terrains folders' DATA.ini. But still nothing. I have exactly what you wrote in my DATA.ini files. And I only overwrote those lines. I'm stumped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heck 496 Posted June 23, 2010 Doesn't this require a texture in the TextureStage[01].TextureName= and TextureStage[02].TextureName= callouts? I always thought it did, but I'm probably wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandy 3 Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) All I can say is this works in my FEG install. FE2 I think has new FX files, so maybe the code above is referencing FX that do not exist anymore. Sorry, can't add anything more except that it is weird that those textures are not specified. There must be a default. Edited June 23, 2010 by Bandy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie 14 0 Posted June 25, 2011 Did anybody ever come across the fix for FE2 by chance? I can live with the dead water if need be, Jan's seasonal terrains are just outstanding, unbelievable how good they are and what it adds to the sim, the water would be cool though if anyone has an answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+ojcar 157 Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) I have another problem, only in FE2 using Jan Tuma's terrain. They are a lot of shimmering buildings in the cities. Anybody knows a fix about it? I have no problem in FE1. Edited June 25, 2011 by ojcar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,848 Posted June 26, 2011 Like SF2, FE2 uses different effects shaders, with different names try this: [NormalTextureMaterial] EffectShaderName=terTerrainEffect.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=FALSE AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE CullMode=CLOCKWISE LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.0000000 ZBufferOffset=0.000000 BlendOp=ONE NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=NO_OP [WaterTextureMaterial] EffectShaderName=terWaterEffect.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=FALSE RenderedInOrder=TRUE AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=TRUE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 SpecularColor=1.000000,1.000000,0.900000,1.000000 SpecularPower=1.000000lol ZBufferOffset=4.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=2 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE TextureStage[02].TextureName= TextureStage[02].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[02].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[02].ReflectionMapping=TRUE TextureStage[02].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_BLEND_TEXTURE_ALPHA TextureStage[02].StageAlphaOp=DIFFUSE [backgroundMaterial] EffectShaderName=terFarTerrainEffect.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=FALSE AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE CullMode=CLOCKWISE LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.0000000 ZBufferOffset=0.000000 BlendOp=ONE NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=NO_OP [solidObjectTextureMaterial] EffectShaderName=terSolidObject.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=TRUE AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 ZBufferOffset=1.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=NO_OP Fade=NORMAL StartFadeDistance=50.0 EndFadeDistance=50.0 [AlphaObjectTextureMaterial] EffectShaderName=terAlphaObject.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=FALSE RenderedInOrder=false AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.00000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.00000 ZBufferOffset=2.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=FALSE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE Fade=NORMAL StartFadeDistance=50.0 EndFadeDistance=50.0 note the 'ter*nameof*.fx wrench kevin stein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie 14 0 Posted June 26, 2011 Wrench, I was missing the ".ter" prefix and a couple other particulars. I'll give that a go and report back. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie 14 0 Posted June 26, 2011 You know, I find this code stuff almost as entertaining as the sim, in an obsessive-compulsive kinda way...Anyway, by way of explanation, here are my settings, I'm using Jan's terrain, Shrike's sky, some effects/smoke, Tailspin's worn airfield, etc., on an XP system with a Nvidea 7600GS, most everything set on "Good" or whatever just below "Unlimited is: [NormalTextureMaterial] UseEffectShader=TRUE EffectShaderName=TerrainEffect2.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=FALSE AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE CullMode=CLOCKWISE LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.0000000 ZBufferOffset=0.000000 BlendOp=ONE NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=NO_OP [WaterTextureMaterial] UseEffectShader=TRUE EffectShaderName=WaterEffect2.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=FALSE RenderedInOrder=TRUE AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=TRUE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 SpecularColor=1.000000,1.000000,0.900000,1.000000 SpecularPower=1.000000lol ZBufferOffset=4.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=2 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE TextureStage[02].TextureName= TextureStage[02].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[02].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[02].ReflectionMapping=TRUE TextureStage[02].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_BLEND_TEXTURE_ALPHA TextureStage[02].StageAlphaOp=DIFFUSE [backgroundMaterial] UseEffectShader=TRUE EffectShaderName=FarTerrainEffect2.fx DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=FALSE AlphaTestEnabled=FALSE CullMode=CLOCKWISE LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.0000000 ZBufferOffset=0.000000 BlendOp=ONE NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=NO_OP [solidObjectTextureMaterial] DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=TRUE RenderedInOrder=TRUE AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.000000 ZBufferOffset=0.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE [AlphaObjectTextureMaterial] DepthBufferCheck=TRUE DepthBufferWrite=FALSE RenderedInOrder=false AlphaTestEnabled=TRUE CullMode=NO_CULL LightEnabled=TRUE SpecularEnabled=FALSE EmissiveEnabled=FALSE FogEnabled=TRUE AmbientColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.00000 DiffuseColor=1.000000,1.000000,1.000000,1.00000 ZBufferOffset=2.000000 BlendOp=BLEND_SRC_ALPHA NumTextureStages=1 TextureStage[01].TextureName= TextureStage[01].MipMap=TRUE TextureStage[01].FilterEnabled=TRUE TextureStage[01].StageColorOp=TEXTURE_MODULATE_DIFFUSE TextureStage[01].StageAlphaOp=TEXTURE Fade=NORMAL StartFadeDistance=50.0 EndFadeDistance=50.0 OK, the above gives me good terrain, dead water, and an occasional flashy building. Although interestingly I don't get any flashy buildings in the Vosegen terrain, I also have no "[backgroundMaterial]" entry in Vosegen or in Edwards Flanders terrain, I'm not sure what that means if anything...Anyway, good terrain, dead water, occasional flashy building. Now if I do a line for line swap with Wrench's .ini I get good terrain, a different dead water, and shimmering trees...Now my .ini's do not include the "ter" prefix, but the terrain, the trees and whatnot, seem to render really nicely. Maybe the new ini's didn;t work because instead of simply cutting and pasting Wrench's ini's in place of my own I did a line for line swap checking along the way and left my entry for example, "EffectShaderName=TerrainEffect2.fx," only adding the "ter-" prefix in the beginning. I thought the "2" designated something of importance, I wasn't sure, I left it... What does it all mean? Beats me. I'm not certain what importance that "ter" prefix plays in the big scheme of things as the terrain for the most part looks good without it...In summary, swapping the old for the new gives me flashy trees and a different kind of dead water, I feel like the answer is real close here, maybe more obsessing is in order, and it really is kind of fun in a weird way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,848 Posted June 26, 2011 dx10 shaders, maybe??? pull the data ini from any of the stock terrains and compare. What is looks like, is the 2-type fx callouts may be custom-made. They may not work in FE2, without rebulding to take advantage of the new new shaders (even in XP. iirc, it's a game engine thing) btw, the section I posted is from the Flanders terrain, after my conversion to FE2. This tutorial might be of some help: http://combatace.com/topic/54856-converting-sfwo-terrains-to-sf2-usage/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie 14 0 Posted June 27, 2011 Good info...The more I monkey with this the more I learn, albiet in fits and starts, but it really is fun tweaking with it when things fall into place. There is a logic to it that is gratifying somehow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
