michael82 0 Posted July 16, 2010 From below article it appears that 21 can still hold its own in dogfight: MAKING BEST OF MiG-21 web.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stick 773 Posted July 16, 2010 The Russians do have a tendency of making flying miracles!But thats it...the fire control and the actual weapons suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tzareff 6 Posted July 16, 2010 This Egyptian is realy crazy and MiG-21 Bis whith 0.84 thrust /weight ratio and up to 6 IRM is very dangerous opponent at close combat:drinks: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,295 Posted July 16, 2010 The MiG-21bis had a special afterburner regime for dogfights below 4.000 meters that gave a thrust of 95kN. (Usable for 4 or 5 minutes then the engine overheats) With this regime the MiG-21bis has a thrust to weight ratio >1 and can hold its own against the F-16 in the vertical fight. But if you has the chance to take a seat in a MiG-21 you will see how small this plane is and how had the view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+76.IAP-Blackbird 3,557 Posted July 16, 2010 most interesting MiG-21 version I saw ever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagger1 7 Posted July 16, 2010 wow great document... I hope this can be used to mod. the FM of all the mig-21's in the game :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,295 Posted July 18, 2010 I have spoken with ex east german MiG-21 pilots and they have certain doubts about the truth of this document. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erwin_Hans 6 Posted July 19, 2010 From below article it appears that 21 can still hold its own in dogfight: Thanks for this artical! BTW:Are you luca in forum.keypublishing.co.uk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michael82 0 Posted July 19, 2010 I personaly do not like MiG-21 looking aircraft but it seems it has important low speed lift and pitch pointing potential, that is not in the manuals, but can be useful to operators. I do not see tremendous thrust/weight since AB thrust increases in all engines, depending on engine cycle and control system. With half fuel and AAMs max SL climb rate is 225 m/s, not more! I do not know what German pilots doubt? '67. event what Egyptian incidentally demonstrated or what US Aggressor regularly have been doing ? For modifying 21 game one need to know trimmed Lift, I hope that can be find in MiG-21 books. Nice JL-9 drawings, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michael82 0 Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) I do not know what German pilots doubt? '73. event what Egyptian incidentally demonstrated or what US Aggressor regularly have been doing ? Edited September 8, 2010 by michael82 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites