Original German Goggles at Ebay

[Olham 164]

This item is said to be original from that time. I read somewhere, that in the days of WW1 aviation,

there were no specific googles made for aviator, and they used motorbike goggles.

If that is true, you can sell any motorbike goggles as original WW1 pilot goggles?

 

http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Fliegerbrille-1-Weltkrieg-Jasta-Roter-Baron-/380290462771?pt=Militaria&hash=item588b13f433

[UK_Widowmaker 571]

It appears to refer to WW2 in the description..though as I am using Google Translate..It could be mistaken?

[Olham 164]

Don't know what you get there, old boy, but in the German Ebay page, it says clearly "1. Weltkrieg", which means WW1.

[Hasse Wind 46]

Well, you can say anything you want when selling items at eBay. They may be real, or not. But that's an awful lot of money for a pair of s*itty goggles. Just my opinion, of course.

[Olham 164]

If they looked like those in this picture...

But even here, in the same Jasta (11 ?*) they are wearing different ones.

 

*(I can identify MvR at the left, and maybe Werner Voss)

 

 

[+elephant 36]

You are right about the goggles Olham they were privately purchaced also the 1915 patern flieced coat that was issued to Flight troops was originaly issued to track drivers.

Who do you think is Voss? I think he had to be dead by the time this movie was taken (IMO early 1918).

[UK_Widowmaker 571]

That pic of MvR clearly shows why Rutger Hauer would have made a very convincing Red Baron!!

[Olham 164]

I thought the third from the left looks like Voss.

Did I miss the date - was it shown in the film?

[Typhoon 5]

I have a pair of what were purported to be WW1 German goggles. I don't know if they are or not, but judging by the state of the elastic they look to be quite old. They fold up and are in a box. They actually look like some of those worn in the movie "Flyboys"

 

Tony

 

[Olham 164]

Hmm - German or not, they look old enough to me to be WW1 goggles.

[+elephant 36]

The shape looks British to me...but may well be worn by a German pilot as RFC equipment was much favored by the other side...

I may be wrong about the date and probably am, as I found a beter footage of the same movie session and the lighting conditions implaying a bright sunny day, no spec of snow in the horison so...

Here is your Voss look alike? pilot Olham for better comparison:

If you ask me, I don't think he is...

[Cameljockey 3]

It's not Voss. I had a conversation with someone here awhile back about this guy. I can't recall his name off of the top of my head. I remember the conversation because I said that he looked like "Bill S. Preston, Esquire" (Alex Winter) of "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure fame. I'll see if I can find the thread.

[Olham 164]

No, you're right: that isn't Voss. Where can I see that better quality footage, elephant?

[Cameljockey 3]

Lt. Eberhard von Stapenhorst seems to ring a bell.

Edited December 9, 2010 by Cameljockey

[+elephant 36]

I have it downloaded form YouTube...

 

 

[Olham 164]

And once again:

THIS VIDEO CONTAINS UMG CONTENT AND IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR COUNTRY

 

How big would it be compressed with Win RAR, elephant? Perhaps it can be sent

as a Windows Video File?

Edited December 10, 2010 by Olham

[+elephant 36]

I have uploaded both MvR videos to my mediafire folder. They have (.flv) abrevation.

I play them with vlc player which is free.

The footage is well known and I think, also included in WWI in color and 4 Years of Thunder DVDs.

Here you are:

 

http://www.mediafire.com/?gqutwwd0h33iad1

 

[Olham 164]

Thanks a lot, elephant.

[Hasse Wind 46]

I seem to recall a few years back, they had an auction on Ebay a piece of wing fabric ( Supposidly from a WW1 German Aircraft ), 18" X 36". It went for 900 USD

 

Sounds like an excellent business. Maybe I should start painting pieces of fabric green and sell them at eBay for ridiculous prices.

[Olham 164]

That's what happened already - faked Lozenge patterns have been offered.

[Rugbyfan1972 1]

Hi,

 

Just a quick thought from someone who has drunk slightly too much, but is anyone on this forum capable of lip reading (I realise that we would need both german and british lip readers), who is capable of giving a transcript of what is being said in these early video's.

 

Thanks

Rugbyfan1972

[Olham 164]

Drunken people often have great ideas - I wonder if anyone can.

[Hasse Wind 46]

We would need a HAL 9000 for that.

[Olham 164]

Haha, yeah, the supercomputer from my favourite SF film.

(Did you know, that you can replace each letter of HAL by the next one in the alphabet; and what you get then?)

[RAF_Louvert 101]

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"I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you. It's called "Daisy." Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two..."

 

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