OT A man after my own heart

[UK_Widowmaker 571]

*CAUTION BAD LANGUAGE*

 

[Flyby PC 23]

Here endeth the lesson. Amen.

 

Bad Language? What Bad Bad language?

 

 

 

Edit - Sorry, this was the clip I was really looking for......

 

Edited June 8, 2011 by Flyby PC

[Olham 164]

Clear words from an Irishman there! Thanks for posting, Widowmaker.

This financial system has definitely come to a bad end.

I wonder, if it would be possible to install anything else, that would work better.

But I'm afraid, not. Not love is many men's strongest emotion - it is rather greed.

The bankers are already re-introducing slavery this way.

[Von Paulus 8]

But we're guilty, because we're always voting in the same parties. Last Sunday, there was an election in Portugal. And the winner was not the governmenl party (socialists, so they called themselves) but the leader of opposition (liberal). But it's always like that, and nothing changes. When people are discontent, and believe me we've reasons to be so, they go and vote on the same opposite party that was already in power a couple of elections ago, who also helped to f**k up all the finances. This sick switching party system, liberals and socialists (democratic and conservative), is helping to kill the democracy in western Europe. If at least they weren't corrupt... but that's to ask much.

[tranquillo 10]

About time someone said it like it is. Thanks for posting, UK.

:good:for Billy Connolly too - only he could get away with it.

 

Von Paulus, nicely put.

[Flyby PC 23]

But we're guilty, because we're always voting in the same parties. Last Sunday, there was an election in Portugal. And the winner was not the governmenl party (socialists, so they called themselves) but the leader of opposition (liberal). But it's always like that, and nothing changes. When people are discontent, and believe me we've reasons to be so, they go and vote on the same opposite party that was already in power a couple of elections ago, who also helped to f**k up all the finances. This sick switching party system, liberals and socialists (democratic and conservative), is helping to kill the democracy in western Europe. If at least they weren't corrupt... but that's to ask much.

 

Hang in there Von Paulus. Things do change. I can't say too much without getting political, but take a look at the recent elections in Scotland. I pass no comments on the politics themselves , just that even the most heavily entrenched beliefs can be overturned, and things you thought you'd never see can come to pass.

 

And between the OT politics and swearing, I'm guessing this thread is skating on thin ice already...

Edited June 8, 2011 by Flyby PC

[Von Paulus 8]

Hang in there Von Paulus. Things do change. I can't say too much without getting political, but take a look at the recent elections in Scotland. I pass no comments on the politics themselves , just that even the most heavily entrenched beliefs can be overturned, and things you thought you'd never see can come to pass.

 

And between the OT politics and swearing, I'm guessing this thread is skating on thin ice already...

I don't know about Scotland (however I trust your opinion), but I can tell you that in Portugal, that has been the way in the last 15 years.

More! Things do change but for worst.

I believe that my country is far from being an exception

Edited June 8, 2011 by Von Paulus

[Olham 164]

Even Germany isn't as well off as they are trying to make believe.

When they say, that the German economy is florishing, that is only for the really big ones.

The common men's small businesses can hardly pay taxes at all anymore, and many, if not

most of them, struggle to make ends meet.

[UK_Widowmaker 571]

We've probably just become accustomed to an 'easy life'

 

1/3 of the world's population doesnt have enough food to eat...or are suffering from horrible diseases or War...

I guess we should all count our blessings

[Olham 164]

That is true, Widowmaker, that is true!

[Von Paulus 8]

We've probably just become accustomed to an 'easy life'

 

1/3 of the world's population doesnt have enough food to eat...or are suffering from horrible diseases or War...

I guess we should all count our blessings

That's very true.

However we should be levelling up and not down. The solution is not to end up by being exploited in our part of the world, but yes, to end the whole exploitation of men by men in everywhere. (No!, I'm not a commie)

Greed is the problem and the lack of a more equitable distribution of wealth, or at least to be achievable by honest work. And that's the problem we are beginning to face, again, in the northern hemisphere, North America and Europe. What that Irishman spoke, I could have said the same in Portuguese here and now in Portugal. This don't have a face, a nationality, an ethnicity or a language. It's the pure fu**ing truth.

Edited June 8, 2011 by Von Paulus

[TSmoke 2]

I really like the guy in the first video, straight forward to the point. The banks, governments, large corporations, ect., have been shearing the sheep far to often since the early eighties, and it has become a standard practice that is going to be damn hard to change. It has always been the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. Short of public rebellion nothing is going to change. Just my view on how I'm getting screwed.

[Flyby PC 23]

If you want to immasculate a bank, don't borrow money from it. The more you owe, the more power you give the bank.

 

30, 40 years ago, people had no choice but to live within their means, debt was still around, but hard to get, and debt itself was a dirty word. Nobody wanted to be in debt, and money from the welfare system was often despised as charity.

 

Those attitudes have long gone, but we need to re-examine the attitudes. We now have an insatiable avarice to own everything we can, houses, cars, ipods, you name it, we just can't get enough. We're not content with one house, we have to make a profit from it and be on a property ladder. We have one car, then we want one each, then it's a 'good' car and a cheap runabout, it just goes on and on. We want so many things that we can't pay for, but credit has been as good as cash recently, and we've all trotted along to our banks like lambs to the slaughter. In many situations we have abandoned the concept of value for money, and governed our spending solely by the amount of credit we could get. If we can hold of the money, we can afford it.

 

I don't think we need a revolution and blood on the streets, I just think we're an unfortunate population to be living in such times. It's a 'fate' thing, and yes we should still think of ourselves as lucky. Our fate is to live closer to poverty than we are comfortable with. Some will survive it better than others, but on the whole it's a bad experience. It's not very pleasant, but twice in living memory, the fate of the people was to leave their careers, loves and lives on hold and forfeit 5 years of their lives to a world at war. Who is the luckier?

 

We will get through this. We will see happier times, (and in future be much better informed of the dangers of too much credit).

 

In my own world, this manifests itself as a potential opportunity. Our housing market is saturated with overpriced timber framed properties with a 60 year design life (though some reckon 30 years is more likely), but yet I can build much better houses with a 200 year life span. I live for the day when somebody out there recognises the difference. To get there I have to survive, and the biggest threat to that survival is the debt I'm in.

 

There are two things we need to change. Stop borrowing, and stop craving those things which make us want to borrow.

 

I'm not a commie pinko, nor am I rampant capitalist, I'm just a normal person but it's a daily slap in the face considering the hours I work and the tax I pay to maintain a standard of living not very dissimilar to a life on benefits. These parasites on 'the sick' don't work, can afford to party until 3 am with their rent paid, money in their pockets, £25 a week to feed the dog, subsidy if they have a drink problem, and even more subsidy if they're 'depressed'. Definition of depression? Take a valium the day before your assessment so it appears in your blood test you're on medication. They get handed money to live, and live to get handed money. It's dumb f*"!ks like me who pay for it. Remember the fuel protests in the UK? That was when petrol was 89p a litre. It's now £1.40. That's £6.35 a gallon, or $10.5 per gallon. What are you paying for gas in the US these days? If you think Billie Connolly can swear .....

Edited June 9, 2011 by Flyby PC

[UK_Widowmaker 571]

Wise words as usual Flypc