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[+HungaroJET]

I am impressed to see the Sabre and not MiG15 on this stage of prospect modules list. My next wet dream i guess would be a Korea map and -15 ...

 

Great news and id like to see also a Korea, Vietnam, Germany (WWII) and a cold war WPACT scenery Czechoslovakia or Poland map too :)...oh and of course Nevada :D

[+Wrench]

an FW-190??? verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interestering!!

 

(to say nothing for the Sabre...a Mig must be coming!!)

 

i'm getting interestered in this....

[+JediMaster]

Ok, I understand that, although TK even put failure as a probability in the SF series so I'm just surprised ED didn't put it in long ago. It does explain a lot of things I've seen in LOMAC and DCS, though.

 

As for ECM breaking locks, IIRC I've seen that in many sims over the years as well as losing lock due to notching and (in a few nice instances) terrain masking. I agree it shouldn't be a zero-sum "ECM on = no lock, ECM off = hit" equation, but there does need to be some wiggle room. In other words, if my ECM is on, I should need less chaff and maneuvering to defeat a missile.

Right now it seems like ECM has 2 functions--it reduces engagement range so that instead of launching at a missile's max you have to wait till burn through, which I think is like 20nm, and it enables HOJ locks from missiles with that ability. While I agree with the 2nd, the first makes realistic tactics harder to use. In reality no fighter pilot would be "blinking" his ECM on and off, yet it became a valid tactic in LOMAC/FC requiring that "power on delay" to be brought on in one patch, which really irritated me as someone who doesn't play against other humans, just AI. Also, it makes your choice of radar missile and side largely irrelevant. With ECM operating, every radar missile has a 20nm max range, so other than SARH vs active changing when you can break off, no radar missile has a range advantage over another.

[+Ruggbutt]

Good points Jedi. One would think that the jammer on the Eagle would have a different burn thru range than the one on the Su, or the Mig.

[GGTharos]

Ok, I understand that, although TK even put failure as a probability in the SF series so I'm just surprised ED didn't put it in long ago. It does explain a lot of things I've seen in LOMAC and DCS, though.

 

How do you justify equipment failure stats? They aren't terribly available.

 

As for ECM breaking locks, IIRC I've seen that in many sims over the years as well as losing lock due to notching and (in a few nice instances) terrain masking. I agree it shouldn't be a zero-sum "ECM on = no lock, ECM off = hit" equation, but there does need to be some wiggle room. In other words, if my ECM is on, I should need less chaff and maneuvering to defeat a missile.

 

I wouldn't say you need less evasive action. I'd say it might give you a chance against a smart missile. But really, ECM tacics can be rather specific, so things get a bit strange - not something any game usually simulates.

 

Right now it seems like ECM has 2 functions--it reduces engagement range so that instead of launching at a missile's max you have to wait till burn through, which I think is like 20nm, and it enables HOJ locks from missiles with that ability. While I agree with the 2nd, the first makes realistic tactics harder to use. In reality no fighter pilot would be "blinking" his ECM on and off, yet it became a valid tactic in LOMAC/FC requiring that "power on delay" to be brought on in one patch, which really irritated me as someone who doesn't play against other humans, just AI. Also, it makes your choice of radar missile and side largely irrelevant. With ECM operating, every radar missile has a 20nm max range, so other than SARH vs active changing when you can break off, no radar missile has a range advantage over another.

 

20nm is pretty far, actually. :) In any case, the jammer 'blinks' itself in RL, you're right, it isn't the person doing it typically. ECM is always a touchy matter. For the moment, it is what it is. In the future perhaps we will see different mechanics.

 

It does as of FC2, but it's handled in 'broad classes' of bomber/modern/legacy, withthe bomber's jammers having the least burn-through.

 

 

Good points Jedi. One would think that the jammer on the Eagle would have a different burn thru range than the one on the Su, or the Mig.

[Vampyre]

Ooooh! An OH-58! Sweet! I have always had a thing for scouting. It should be good fun to hunt out enemy vehicles and lase for other platforms in multiplayer. The Hind looks like it will be a hoot and a hollar too. A Blackhawk, Apache, Chinook, Super Stallion and Osprey would be awesome as well so I can only hope for their inclusion at some point. Of course the transports will need a metric for accomplishing their mission so I hope that will come sooner rather than later. BTW, Anyone have any idea how far the Nevada map will streach? Is NAS Fallon and Edwards AFB included or will it just be the area around Nellis AFB and just north of Las Vegas?