niemand303 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Hello everyone, this is basically my first post on CombatAce.Even though I enjoyed a lot NATO Fighters 5 and its campaign, I couldn't notice some mistakes in Soviet OOBs. And what started as a small fix to a 1986 campaign grew into a new campaign, set in June 1989. Fearing harsh Soviet reaction to "Solidarity" party's rise to power in Poland, NATO decides to use Soviet moment of weakness and strike at almost cut out of supplies East German and Soviet troops, seeking to join with Polish troops. Unfortunately, due to forum limitations I can't upload the early version of campaign itself, but I'd like to ask for help with Czechoslovakia's Air Force OOB. If someone is interested in such a campaign or can help with useful info -- I will be glad to cooperate. 1 Quote
Blade Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 I'd like to ask for help with Czechoslovakia's Air Force OOB. 1. slp Base: Budejovice Airbase MiG-21MF MiG-23MF MiG-23ML 4. slp Base: Pardubice Airbase MiG-21MA MiG-21MF 5. slp Base: Dobrany Airbase MiG-21F MiG-21MA/MF 6. sbolp Base: Prerov (not included on stock GermanyCE map) MiG-21MF Su-22M4 8. slp Base: Brno (not included on stock GermanyCE map) MiG-21PF (used until '89) MiG-21PFM MiG-21MF (used from '89) 9. slp Base: Bechyne Airbase MiG-21PF (used until '89) MiG-21PFM (Possibly some MiG-21MA/MF as well to replace the MiG-21PF) 11. slp Base: Zatec Airbase MiG-21PFM MiG-23MF (used until '89) MiG-29 (used from '89) 20. sbolp Base: Namest nad Oslavou (not included on stock GermanyCE map) Su-7BKL (used until '89) Su-22M4 Su-7U (used until '89) L-29 Su-22UM-3K 28. sbolp Base: Cáslav Airbase MiG-23BN 30. blp Base: Pardubice Airbase Su-25K 47. pzlp Base: Hradec Kralove (not included on stock GermanyCE map) L-29R (used until '89) MiG-21R Su-22M4 SLP - Fighter Regiment, SBOLP - Fighter-bomber Regiment, PZLP - Recon Regiment Source: http://forum.valka.cz 1 Quote
niemand303 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Posted February 8, 2016 Thanks for detailed OOB. @Blade ! I will try to finish the initial part of the campaign in a couple of days (though it will still require NATO Fighters 5 for all its elements).At the moment it looks like NATO side is basically "easymode" since USSR has less planes and less capable avionics, while being the "shield" will be challenging, especially for the Eastern German part. Quote
Slant6 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Sounds like a fun campaign. But yes, I've been playing the 1986 campaign of NF5 (after adding a few more Polish fighter regiments that were inexplicably left out and a few other OOB changes) and the NATO aircraft (F-15Cs, Tornados, F-16s, Mirage 2000s) have it pretty much their own way with the Fitters, MiG-21s and MiG-23s. The 1953 campaign needed some fine-tuning as well. There were IRL no La-15s or MiG-9s facing NATO by then. And the campaign has no real red ground attack without Il-10s, which were still in wide use by the Soviets and Czechs at the time. Quote
Emp_Palpatine Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Well, having difficulties as the reds in the 80's is more or less historical. Western technology was way ahead, except for the close range missiles which were a very bad surprise when the Luftwaffe tested them. Quote
niemand303 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Posted February 8, 2016 Yep, in my scenario USSR will draw Su-27 and MiG-31 regiments from PVO forces to the rescue, which can even the situation. I am thinking about land combat as there are very few nodes and ground units can't be stacked.If I knew how to mod the nodes I'd increase their number for a more realistic and interesting ground war, I converted US infantry divisions to use Bradleys and Soviet MRDs to BMP-2, leaving tanks only to tank divisions. That allows for not only anti-tank CAS, but also fighting with infantry-ish targets. I've already added on-map Czech units, leaving others as fighting on another front (to the south or against Poland): Quote
jeanba Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 Hello I have some interest in WP orders of battle and I started a discussion on acig : http://www.acig.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6947 you have to subscribe, but it is free (though you can give me your credit card number if you insist) Some links : For a correct order of battle of the Romanian AF in 1989, see:http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=47 http://www.easternorbat.com/ 1 Quote
niemand303 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks, jeanba! I will be ready to present the first version tomorrow, though it might require some polish, surprisingly USSR tries to go on the offensive very early despite low morale and supplies :) Quote
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