Arrow Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) I downloaded and installed the CF-188B some months ago. While I really like the look of the skin and the cockpit, I don't have any working radar. Last night I tried to lock up a Flogger and Fishbed in SF2NA with my Sparrow 7Ms, which I'd maneuvered into optimal position for, but nothing. As well, pressing the turn On/Off Radar hotkey doesn't display any message on my HUD neither does pressing the change radar mode and range keys. Turning on ECM does display a message and appear to be working correctly. I noticed this in the CF-188B readme... Quote Based on the F/A-18B/D Series made by Dave. (The Hornet Team) that can be found here : https://combatace.com/files/file/13591-fa-18bd-series-by-the-hornet-team-beta/?_fromLogin=1 The CF-188B does come with Effects, Flights, Objects (to my eye the Objects\Aircraft folders seem complete) and Sounds folder. All of which I installed, but was careful not to overwrite existing weapon files that were newer and larger, as I have the 2013 weapons pack installed. So do I need to also have that Hornet Team mod installed to have a fully functional CF-188B? Edited July 4, 2019 by Arrow Quote
+1977Frenchie Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Arrow said: I downloaded and installed the CF-188B some months ago. While I really like the look of the skin and the cockpit, I don't have any working radar. Last night I tried to lock up a Flogger and Fishbed in SF2NA with my Sparrow 7Ms, which I'd maneuvered into optimal position for, but nothing. As well, pressing the turn On/Off Radar hotkey doesn't display any message on my HUD neither does pressing the change radar mode and range keys. Turning on ECM does display a message and appear to be working correctly. I noticed this in the CF-188B readme... The CF-188B does come with Effects, Flights, Objects (to my eye the Objects\Aircraft folders seem complete) and Sounds folder. All of which I installed, but was careful not to overwrite existing weapon files that were newer and larger, as I have the 2013 weapons pack installed. So do I need to also have that Hornet Team mod installed to have a fully functional CF-188B? Problem was in the original file (version 1.0). Download the Version 1.1 as radar issue have been solved Quote
Arrow Posted July 5, 2019 Author Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, 1977Frenchie said: Problem was in the original file (version 1.0). Download the Version 1.1 as radar issue have been solved Version 1.1 is what I downloaded with a Zip archive name of; CF-188B V1.1.zip. That's what I installed, but still no radar? Edited July 5, 2019 by Arrow Quote
MigBuster Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 You also have no HUD or anything else. right click on CF-188B.ini go to properties and untick the read only box Open up CF-188B.ini change this line to: AvionicsDataFilename=CF-188B_AVIONICS.ini It is trying to use the FA_18A avionics you don't have Quote
Arrow Posted July 9, 2019 Author Posted July 9, 2019 On 2019-07-05 at 5:44 AM, MigBuster said: right click on CF-188B.ini go to properties and untick the read only box Open up CF-188B.ini change this line to: AvionicsDataFilename=CF-188B_AVIONICS.ini It is trying to use the FA_18A avionics you don't have Excellent catch MigBuster, that was indeed the problem - all is good now. And doh!...to me being so preoccupied with the radar that I didn't even notice the HUD. Quote
Arrow Posted July 12, 2019 Author Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) I'm curious what internal ECM system is modeled in the CF-188B - since the readme mentions it's based on the Hornet Team F/A-18, I'm guessing its the same that's modeled in it? I'm fairly certain the radar is based on the Hughes AN/APG-65, but is that ECM perhaps the same as the AN/ALQ-135 in the F-15A? Or am I getting to granular here, when in fact that level of distinguishing detail isn't possible in this flight sim? Edited July 12, 2019 by Arrow Quote
Wrench Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 that actually dosen't matter in game. all that's really needed are the min/max frequencies the jammer generates, if it's deceptive or noise generating and can jam continuious wave (true/false) Quote
Arrow Posted July 13, 2019 Author Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Wrench said: that actually dosen't matter in game. all that's really needed are the min/max frequencies the jammer generates, if it's deceptive or noise generating and can jam continuious wave (true/false) Cool & good to know. I found the ECM entry in the CF-188B's DATA.INI and it's an AN/ALQ-126B, so not as good as the AN/ALQ-135 and reported to be ineffective against strong SAM radars. That explains why during my 2nd to last mission those Soviet Goblins found me like a wasp buzzing along a white-washed wall. On the other hand that ALQ-126B was damn effective against some Floggers in my last mission that were trying to lock up my flight. They got 1 wingman, but that was with guns - we got 5 of them. I believe I can grok the actual entry where it aligns with some of the values you mentioned. This is what's listed: [ECM] ReferenceName=AN/ALQ-126B SystemType=ECM_JAMMER JammerType=DECEPTIVE_JAMMER JammerStrength=50.0 MinExtentPosition= -0.424,6.383,-0.287 MaxExtentPosition= 0.417,6.676,-0.409 I can see it's a deceptive radar and its strength (not sure what measurement unit that strength references), but I'm wondering if those MinExtentPosition & MaxEntentPosition values are related to the frequencies you mentioned? As well, it looks like this particular jammer has no continuous wave jamming capability, or is that possibly what the SystemType value is enabling? I haven't ever seen it mentioned, so I'm assuming the SF2 series has no support for dedicated ECM aircraft like the EF-111A Raven? Edited July 13, 2019 by Arrow Quote
Wrench Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 min/max extensions are were the device is located in the airframe. they're not even really necessary. BUT..you do need the freqeencies Quote SF2 series has no support for dedicated ECM aircraft like the EF-111A Raven? well, SF2NA comes with the EA-6 Prowler, and at least one of the Blinders has "Escort_Jammer" as the mission tasking Does it work?? Quote
Arrow Posted July 16, 2019 Author Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the heads up Wrench. The frequencies were missing for the CF-188B's ECM setting, but I found the same AN/ALQ-126 ECM on the Intruder A-6E I'd earlier downloaded with the one exception that it was the A model instead of the B. That had a MinFreq=1.0 and a MaxFreq=10.9 and it did have a value of CanJamCW=True, so that's what I went with. I opened up the F-15A_Data.ini from NF5 for comparison and it had a MinFreq=2.0 and a MaxFreq=20.0 and a JammerStrength=60.0. Which makes sense as it's ECM was more capable/stronger, since it was equipped with the AN/ALQ-135. Anyhow, I hope those are correct settings or close to it. Edited July 16, 2019 by Arrow Quote
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