The AI is cheating

[Chakat_Avocado]

Is it me or the AI love to never lose energy and out turn me despite of their airframe limits including the G tolerance of the pilot? Let me know cause from other sources, I have heard more or less from each side of the debate. I would like to think that I am being cheated and robots have no brains on most levels.

[+MigBuster]

Most AI has workarounds for various reasons a lot of it so they can actually provide the player a fight.

 

In DCS I can say with a fair amount of certainty that the ACE AI level does cheat......they simply give it a very high power and performance boost so if you are in the same platform little chance you can compete on the same kinetic level. It is a game feature I suppose in that it was a simple way to make it more challenging.

 

If you can set up single missions then you could experiment with the different AI levels and find a better level.

Failing that the DCS airquake servers will have humans with the same flight model (this may depend on server settings) at least and nothing to set up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Caesar]

Oh, it does.  Get into an F-16C and fight an AI F-5E on Excellent or whatever.  Bring the fight vertical, then swap between the aircraft as you go through the energy egg and you'll see just how much more energy the F-5 has as it goes high to low under twice the "g" load as your F-16.  I noticed when I was doing this last night that the F-5E was at the low 100s KIAS at the top of the egg, then as it came down, it would be loaded up (as high as 6g at the bottom of the egg) and accelerating to the high 300s of KIAS.  I, on the other hand, would be at the low 100s at the top of the egg, and as I came down slightly loaded up (only reaching about 2.5g until the base of the egg where I'd hit up to 3.8g), I would only make it to the mid-200s KIAS before coming back up.  I'm sure some of it is my own hamfistedness, but an F-5 should NOT be able to out-accelerate an F-16C Block 50 on the way down such that it has more than a 100 KIAS advantage against the Viper.

Flying against it in my most familiar mount, the F-14B, I can reliably and repeatedly defeat the F-5, but it does things it shouldn't be able to do against an F-14B, one of those being to out-climb the B-Tomcat.  It basically does the same "Bathtub" tactic the F-15C does in spite of a far inferior T/W to the F-15 and F-14.  

Other ridiculous AI include the MiG-15 and F-86.  The AI can maintain pitch and roll control down to 40KIAS. 

My group does PvP guns-only and you'd best believe that player flight models are far, far more realistic.  Try to pull the same thing the AI does with a player jet and you're going to die.  The thing that gets to me is just how random it seems.  Some aircraft seem at least plausible in their AI form, while others are just UFOs.  Just depends on the jet.