Erik

I'll take my lead from Stratos so if you guys want to have a discussion about that with him that'll be great. I say this because there are conflicting ideas above, one wants it the other does not. If we decide on sub-forums I'll just need to know what to call them since I'm not up to speed on what you guys are doing individually. Again discuss that with Stratos. It is my hope we all can get along here. The goal aside from any drama is doing what you enjoy and making the community / game better with your contributions. Please be open to ideas and thoughts even if they're completely opposite from your perspective. Working together and in support of each of other is the only way to keep the enjoyment alive in what you do. Trust me when I tell I've seen strong groups of people divided and scattered to the wind over the smallest amounts of drama. Don't be those guys bitter bad blood takes forever to mend and sometimes never does. E

The resources of the forums are at your disposal. In keeping in line with Stratos' thinking you can either start separate topics or request sub forums be created. The prior is in my opinion the best way and if needed those topics can be pinned in the EAW forum, Stratos can do that but I will need to set up the sub topics if that's the ultimate way of thinking.

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We need to get someone in Denmark to head to the (Danmarks Tekniske Museet) Technical Museum of Denmark ... where this aircraft is supposed to be on display apparently as the first jet aircraft Denmark purchased. Who's going? Also see references: https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1298273 https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/model/Gloster Meteor F4 http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000412356.html http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000836666.html https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/72366 Inspiration and History: "Denmark bought 20 Meteor F.Mk.4 in May 1949 with deliveries commencing the same autumn, after a number of pilots and mechanics had been trained in England. The aircraft belonged to 3. Luftflotille of Marinens Flyvevæsen (the Third Air Flotilla of the Danish Navy’s Air Service). They were given the type numeral 43 and individually numbers running from 461 to 480. After the creation of the Royal Danish Air Force, which took place on October 1st 1950, the Third Air Flotilla was renamed Eskadrille 723 (Squadron 723) on January 8th 1951. On November 1st1952 Flyvevåbnets Jagerkursus (the RDAF’s fighter course) was established at Aalborg Air Base and at the same time took over the remaining 14 Meteor F.4, as six had crashed in the first years of service. The F.4 remained in service until 1956, when fatigue and rising maintenance costs rendered it obsolete. As a consequence all but two of the remaining airframes were dismantled and used for target practice, fire drills and other useful events. The 43-461, which is the subject of this review, has the distinction of being Denmark’s first operational jet fighter and is today preserved at the Technical Museum in Elsinore." That image is located here: https://modelingmadness.com/review/korean/gb/plesmet4.htm Appears to have the same aircraft number, insignia, and folding wings. The original image appears to trace back to: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alfblume/2284473292/in/album-72157638528692053/ Maybe we're closer to the mystery being solved? Wrench get's a gold star.

Cave dwelling would go against history though it is a novel idea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor Reference: Butler and Buttler 2006, pp. 28–29.

As mentioned ... some F3s built in 1944 were modified for naval trials which included beefed up under bellies, tailhooks, and folding wings. The navy sea trials took place on the HMS Implacable which included takeoffs and landings. The Meteor pictured above is a real and very rare aircraft. I bet she's a prized museum piece with what looks like a great restoration filled with tremendous British history and pride no matter where she goes. BTW, I think this topic is still in the wrong place.

Leave it to them Brits. They think of everything clever from the industrial revolution to the idiot's lantern.

Patent the floating tank, make billions, then retire on your personal island. Challenge presented.

You had a 30 day subscription. It automatically generated a renewal. You didn't pay that renewal so the first subscription finished and the second subscription went into limbo until you either paid it or cancelled it. You then signed up for a 2 day trial and paid that which then generated a renewal which you paid but we had not taken the money yet so you were allowed to cancel that and your invoice voided which cancelled the payment. Finally you decided to get a 30 day subscription and that is now in operation. Directly an invoice can remain pending until you decide what you want to do with it; cancel or pay it. Nothing for Mick's sake he needs to worry much about. Cheers!

I can live with that. Welcome to the team. *alakazam*

WINGS OVER THE REICH, known as 'WOTR' is now available.

In my opinion, autopilot is not difficult to fly at all. Altitude, heading, speed, and wings level are all set then initiate and the airplane will fly that input. Programming the FMC really isn't that hard and someone could easily walk a person through that and keep in mind the FMC is programmed prior to departure so it should still be up and running so it has all the critical data it needs and at that point the FMC needs very little to make changes, fly arrivals, change destinations, and so on. So if the airplane is airworthy and functioning as it should getting them to an ILS with glide slope shouldn't be that difficult. Getting the plane down then is really just setting the aircraft up to fly an arrival (speed, flaps, heading, and altitude) and letting the plane do most of the work including auto braking and auto reverse thrust (once armed or set). Now if they're asking a desk pilot to fly manually and expect a good outcome I think that is incredibly hard. The desk pilot is better off telling the cabin passengers to be excited that they'll be on the news tonight, then do the best they can with help to get it on the ground in any condition that most or all can walk away from. Most desk pilots I've run into have an impossible time flying a heading and keeping altitude manually let alone landing a commercial aircraft. Remember you don't pay pilots to be there when things are great you pay them the big money for when things go wrong, i.e. Sully landing in the Hudson.

It really is petty childish BS that is the position of the current administration. Senator McCain should have been afforded every consideration in his passing. Being from Arizona myself I wouldn't have even cared if they sent the bill to Arizonians. He was a man of integrity, honesty, strong character, down to earth, and humble. Qualities most in government don't care about. It's get elected and leave your morals at home. Very sad.

Wait, Jeff is back?! Yells at the family over my shoulder, "Hurry, pull the RV around, give it a quick wash, and then get my fishing gear together it's vacation time! Church can wait honey Jeff is back."

I don't see how minimum of one controller, at least one tower supervisor, and a minimum of 4 phone patches through to NORAD all qualified with at least a minimum amount of the story (unauthorized departure 16C KSEA Q400 0236Z, pilot communicating, south departure, radar contact 5000AGL over Nisqually Reach) is going to happen in 5 seconds but I'll take your word for it, respectfully. On another note another aircraft reported the Q400 taking off 16C with left and right mains smoking, sounds like a parking brake left on. That's why pilots use checklists.

Majestic built a pretty realistic Dash 8 Q400 for FSX and there's plenty of videos on YouTube on it's full operation. This guy had plenty of time in a sim there's no doubt. Yeah it makes absolutely no sense why they took the fighters out of McChord but the news reported the F15s departed Portland. I was just parroting their reporting. Still 25-30 minutes to be on scene sounds like an eternity to me.

How long did it take for the F15s from Portland to arrive on scene? Once they were scrambled they had to jump into flight suits, get to the ready aircraft, start, taxi, and takeoff. The 143 miles between Portland and Tacoma the F15s could have flown in less than 10 minutes (assuming top speed full burn) but I'm still thinking they were at least 20 minutes out from the first ring of the phone, which by the way had to take at least 5 minutes itself to coordinate through all those agencies. So I'm thinking 25-30 minutes from the Q400 unauthorized takeoff to the F15s arriving on scene, locating, and identifying this aircraft. 25-30 minutes is a long time if you think about it. He could have flown to Canada in that much time. Thoughts, input?

It was all over the local and national news here last night and websites had recordings of the audio communication with the controller. What a crazy event it's not every day you go to work, steal a $35,000,000.00 USD Dash 8, take off and do an aerobatic loop, then pile drive it into the side of a deserted island. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends during this sad time. A rogue A&P mechanic correction bag monkey, tow qualified, ramp agent gainfully employed with a valid right to be on the ramp and in the aircraft, hard to protect against that kind of loss.

Nice. Looks like a GoPro on a 360 gimbal stabilizer with auto zoom and auto focus secured to the forward bulkhead. Great images and sound! That whine of the engine spool gets me every time. It's the crack of fan jet fans everywhere.

That comment was so I didn't think it would get answered.

TK must be making some changes, but only he knows. http://thirdwire.com/downloads.htm still works for me. The store does not.