JonathanRL

Install the games first with the Thirdwire Game Installer. Saves a bunch of time. Mods can be installed in any order, but I would begin with the weapons packs so Aircraft weapons can overwrite if needed. And do check out the TMF F-14 Tomcat!

They could be just "shells"; without proper avionics and flight models and all that in DCS that takes most time.

I think that while it would be a dream come true for me, esp considering TSF. I think TK still makes enough from the SF2 PC that he would never go for it. I do not think it hurts asking, but TK giving us the source code or just handing over the reins of the project? Doubt that will happen. I for one still thinks that if TK wants to improve his PC sales (you know, the ones he keep whining about), he needs to put effort into it. A Steam release could be a good direction if he ever plans SF 3 - and like you, I do not think he does.

Please let this be the return of the Space Sims. I beg you.

It is not exactly we have a limited supply of nukes on this planet...

No need to Nukes. Take out the ruling family and cripple their command structure. Then move in with food caravans and televised football matches. Should make short work of it all. Then let China have the population and South Korea the land.

All we need now is that Carrier in SF2 so we can have some nice, big blue water navy battles and the Su-33 they have on it.

File Name: TSF Saab JAS 39 Sea Gripen-C Package. File Submitter: JonathanRL File Submitted: 02 January 2014 File Category: What If Hangar Installation: Unzip the entire package into your mod folder, usually Saved Games\ThirdWire\StrikeFighters2 or similar. Information: The Sea Gripen is Saabs take on a Carrier Borne Fighter, based off their Saab Gripen NG Project. It was however some ideas that the C version also would be an ideal platform for navies with smaller Carriers as a gap-filler until the Gripen NG entered the market. The idea has since been scrapped. However, this is the What-If Section and since we like Saab does not have a Gripen NG (E/F) available, we made one off the Gripen-C instead. Good Gripen-C Templates are included and free for use. This package contains one Aircraft with five skins, correct serials, nation-specific loadouts and correct weapons. Saab Demonstrator: Two made, modified from Swedish Air Force Gripen-Cs. Initally built as a proof-of-concept but then transferred for demonstrations and practical trials. First naval operation trials was made on the USS George H.W Bush during 2012. Alongside the many details in the contract, Saab retained the right to the US Navy Digital Camo for use upon the airframe. Official demonstrations of these Aircraft is said to have been boosted by Saabs decision to give out free copies of The Scandinavian Front during air shows. Swedish Air Force: The Swedish Air Force, in a frenzy to find new budget cuts for their Armed Forces decided to refit a Wing of Fighters from the Gripen-C to the Sea Gripen-C instead of upgrading them to the Gripen NG. The wing was then activated in 2014 as part of the Swedish Air Force Rapid Reaction Force where Carrier Landings in NATO Operations may be a requirement. The wing is based at F 21 Luleå and have access to the USS Queen Elizabeth for Carrier Training for their pilots. Brazilian Naval Avitation: The Brazilian Navy was the first nation to adopt the Aircraft for their navy, making the development of the Aircraft a requirement for the later approval of the Gripen NG Contract. VF-1 recived the Aircraft and begun training in 2014 and declared themselves operation for duty on the A 12 Sao Paulo in early 2016, making a flyover at the Olympic Games. Brazil has scored most kills with their Gripens, shooting down dozens of Drug Smuggling Aircraft and boats every month. Indian Fleet Air Arm: Following the defence paper of 2011, the carrier INS Viraat was to be decomissioned in 2020. However, without the Sea Harriers, she had been reduced to a Helicopter Carrier. Doubting both the Gripen NGs and the Rafaeles capacity to land upon her decks, the Sea Gripen-C was tested and subsequently bought 20 aircraft with a requirement for a quick delivery. The Indian Navy has expressed interest to retain the INS Viraat for a longer period of time, satisfied with the combination. Royal Navy: Following the near-crash-and-recovery of the F-35 Project saw the Royal Navy reducing the ammount of Aircraft to equip their Queen Elizabeth Class Carriers with. In order to retain maximum value for the Carriers built, the F-35B entered a Fleet Defence and offensive air combat role with the Gripen-C with both low purchase and operating costs deemed the best alternative. The 801th Naval Air Squadron with battle honours from world war II, Korea and the Falklands was reactivated to fly the aircraft, putting them in the front line for Britannic Security Policy once again. The Royal Navy is pleased with the Aircraft and has expressed interest to upgrade to the Gripen NG in the 2020s. Credits: Gripen-C 3D Model by Gux, updated by CadetteBra. Sea Gripen adjustments by Ravenclaw. Adjustments by dtmdragon Flight Model by Column5 Avionics by Jat & Moonjumper Skins by Team TSF, Decals by Paulopanz, Spinners & denissoliveira Weapons by Ravenclaw Serials by Team TSF Fact Checking and application by Team TSF Loadouts and .ini editing by Team TSF Templates by Ravenclaw Click here to download this file

Sea Gripen-C

Question; Should not the gunner / radio operator be facing backwards?

We are already doing so without any Multiplayer, Macalena.

Well, we can´t let Volker have all the fun - deserved as it may be Finished up the first skin for the bird. Enjoy!

The Radar Arrays on the Embraer (The Erieye) is also designed by Saab and is the same link used today between Saab S-100 Argus and the Gripen C.

That looks pretty damn good. Always had a soft spot for that bird.

Subject to a referendum on the Subject, I might add. But I suspect that one would be held regardless of what choice was made.

Does anybody have more updated templates then these? I have reason to suspect there are and they could be useful for a project. http://combatace.com/topic/53092-saab-gripen-template/

You do know this could be applied to pretty much anything developed for own needs and decided to sell? We could make a very long list. And no, not necessarily. The scenario most feared by Swedish military planners in the 1980s was the scenario where Finland and Sweden would be attacked to expand the Soviet sphere of influence and to prevent refugees escaping from the Baltic Countries. It was expected that the treat of Soviet nukes would keep NATO from interfering (settling to shore up Norway and Denmark). A scenario with world war three in Europe would - as you say - see most of the more advanced stuff used there but by no means is this a certainty as both sides expected nukes to be deployed almost instantaneously. Now, I have no desire to keep this debate up forever, so you will get the last word.

The Gripen was designed to be easy to maintain and efficient at the same time. The reason is because the Soviet Union was barely an hours flight time from most of our major bases. This is the core of Swedish Air Defence strategy - we are going to lose our airfields at once. As such, we got hundreds of "war bases", some nothing more then a pre-planned stretch of road. It was meant to be able to operate under Guerilla conditions if need be and is part of the reason the maintenance takes short time and is easy to do. You have to remember that the Gripen was designed to fight in a war where it would be outnumbered by the best the Soviets had to offer. This is the design philosophy behind it. It was not "meant for people who cannot afford the F-16", unlike the F-20 who you keep erroneously comparing it to - and none of those arguments fly, so would you please stop doing that? - , it was never designed for export. It was meant for our purposes. It was meant to design our freedom and in all probability NATOs Scandinavian Front.

There is only one way to settle this!

Sorry, CrazyHorse but for that argument to be close to valid, I will need a little more then just a passing resemblance. If that is what we use to call things "second rate" we have an epic duel about who is the second rate between Rafael and Eurofighter who are rather similar designs.

Looks a bit like a Western Backfire :)

I also have the source files now, in case somebody feel called to make us a proper Gripen E / NG.