my thoughts exactly on Vista....but i recently ordered Black shark(expecting it shortly from ups).ny brother has it in Texas(yeah,my BROTHER IN TEXAS)anyway,i'm looking forward to spending days just trying to fly the thing.after all,i work 12hr days for peanuts,and,when i get home,i want to EMERSE myself in this sim.so,i get to fly 1 helo...so what.i have never flown it before.i like the thought of actually LEARNING something,even to point of mental PAIN.you shouldn't be allowed to just "jump" into a "SIM" and take out a whole battalion with spit and firecrackers!know the machine...inside and out...and then die several times until you KNOW what you are doing!thats what i think makes a REAL SIM.i haven't been a fan of SF,either...but,i've also never removed a game from ED,yet.just some of us are looking for this type of sim,and some aren't.....has anyone played online yet?want to see what its like,before i get the sim.