Lt. James Cater

I do too.

MODs, couldn't figure out how to delete this thread. If it's not too much trouble please do. Thank you.

Thanks for the patch! I'll apply it once i get done doing my current EF-111A tour.

Not too get too historically anal but... In "Saving Private Ryan" the only Brit would have probaly been the coxswain of the landing craft. Also, the sector where the 101st DZs were located about 25-30 miles IIRC from the British/Canadian beaches. Another thing that made those in the UK bristle was the line about Monty being overrated. Well, Caen wasn't fully taken until July 18th while on the same day US forces captured St. Lo, having endured brutal fighting right into the heart of the bocage country suffering heavy casualties as a result. Some infantry units were virtually wiped out. Check on a map the distances from the beaches to the respective objectives. Yet to this day, the Americans are considered to have had the "Easy" side of the front. If anyone wants to continue discussions on subjects such as these i would suggest a thread where the MODs say it's ok. Now back to "OOOOOAHHHHHHHHing' Lancs

Advice for anyone who wants to give this a go..... Expect a lonely experience at times.

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Oh hell yeah!!!!! Put it on my favorites list to vist later. Thanks for the hookup!

Thanks for the tech info Southernap I did allow for burn through and so avoid intentionally flying over sites. The closest i did get knowingly to one was about 6 miles while manuvering to head on to a very active area. The Fan Song tried to get me but no joy for them, it locked the Vark twice but couldn't maintain it. Height , speed, ecm+chaff made for a nice getaway. I've figured out what to do now. Basically it's take off and head to altitude, head over near the ingoing strikes, circle near possible SAM areas within range of the strike, cover the egress, complete my assignment, go home. So far, my nightmare is a Mig25 with the Mig29 a close second.

Looks like i'm staying at 40,000 then!

So far i've been at 40,000ft but i'm probaly going to down to 35 or 30,000 soon. Maybe lower for closer target areas. Going very high is good for fuel management and speed but climbing to to 40 is a real pain though.

Just back from the first mission in the pure ECM role. It took some time to climb to my usual altitude and build up speed so i wasn't able to lead in. Instead, due to different flight paths i only was able to react after the initial SAM launches. Once near a SAM site with the music on everything seemed all right. The crazy part was analyzing all the SAM calls and figuring out exactly what was the worst threat. The best was when three different sites were shut down in one area and the friendlies were able to do their thing. As things turned out, the Vark was last out of the area due to wanting to give others respite from the dreaded 6 o'clock SAM shot. This is even freakier than Recce work and probaly the most cerebral job in the WO* series.

Glad to hear you're enjoying WOE so much! Once you get at the downloads here, there's no looking back.

Nice! Sounds like what i've been experiencing. Being wary of Home On Jam, i've used the ECM just to nullify the defensive radars then switched off once supression was achieved. It probaly helps being fast at high altitude.

Dave, thanks for the info. From flying F-111s in earlier campaigns i learned about going high to conserve fuel. With the capacity it has you can pretty much roam over the map doing your part to contribute to the big picture while also completing your assigned missions. My first mission had a panic inducing encounter with a Mig-25 that i probaly should write up in an AAR, and the second led to a lot of calls to ground control so as to be able to change course to stay alive. The bad part is that now i'm going to go into the teeth of the enemy defense. Oh well, guess i volunteered for this.

A plane that i thought i'd never fly but am now doing a campaign in. Probaly it was a result of of flying RF4Cs for a bit too long. Anyway, i'm going for it and don't really know anything about the capabilities of this aircraft within the sim. Sure, i know the role of such planes in real life but in ODS it's a bit of a mystery. In my first two missions i've been doing recon over some airbases. Perhaps that was a way the ODS team had to get around certain limitations within the game structure? No matter, the missions so far have been rather "fascinating" (To use the old Air America term) but it's still a stumble in the dark. First off i know the ECM on this plane is something else. Don't know to what extent, but it's way past anything that needs pods. Range of effectiveness? I've gone over and near radars and just shut them down and out via the ever powerful "Z" key with smile producing frequency so far. Had to go + chaff in a few cases but the ECM seems to be the win. Will it reduce things enough for other flights? The last i ask because of my last flight, on the way home i knew that some planes were going to fly over some SAMs, so after checking my fuel state i diverted over to where they had to fly and spent some minutes circling overhead until all were[ clear then countinued on home. Had a few radars tracking but no locks and not a single launch. Was it the aircraft or a fluke?

Been reading O'Brian by chance?

Brain, Over there just watch out for your young and old. Just like any other period of serious respiratorily infectious disease. Everyone else will just be rather sick if they of average health.

Amen!!!!!!!!!

What kills me is the typical American lack of historical knowledge. My God! History was always my thing since i was a little kid in elementary school and through the years it's shocked me just how ignorant fellow Americans are. Jawdropping stunning ignorance! This "Swine Flu" is minor league BS compared to the real horrors in the disease world but people are panicking about it.

How come i don't feel surprised anymore about things like this? Not to sound nationlistic, but at least here in the US we can hope to nail the pricks involved for molestation.

This strain of flu is jacks**t****all as far as lethality is concerned. You mentioned 1918? Have you read serious books or seen real documentaries about it? What is going on now is nowhere even close to that era. Hell, the US lost some 600,000 people and IIRC the UK had more than 200,000. So what is this about "Swine flu"?

Not knowing anything about this stuff i got 7-zip via Column5 and it's been smooth sailing. I do agree with Spectre though, things are much easier dealing with Zips rather than RAR.

I've yet to fly in WOI so i'm not familiar with any particular things specific to it as far as ARMs. The Shike has a range of about 15 miles depending on your altitude. Like was mentioned above, when SAM goes active line up with the site, go about 15 degress nose up and fire. Unless there is another radar near the target, it should be right on target. If lower and closer you can just put your pipper on the launch site and let loose. 2 variations on a tactic for WOV/WOE... The first is loading up on ARMs and sending your wingman after the target. Stay up and behind him and engage the sights as they become active. This can also be done via EricJs suggestion using Mavericks The second is sending the wingman in while remaining really high and behind at reduced throttle while studying the RHAW screen (if you have one) and radio traffic to determine the threats and when to engage. Using Standard ARMs you can engage at incredibly long ranges. In action i've hit from about 25 miles ,while in tests on the range 70 miles was acheived (IRL range was about 75 miles)